Wednesday, March 29, 2006
Threats Above, Below
390 comments - Click for Blog
by Ericswan
In my opinion, the FSHOD crewe is way ahead of the curve when it comes to disclosure. 9/11 is old hat compared to what we went through with hurricane manipulations that will take a couple more seasons in the sun before the centre moves our way. One of the things I like the most about our group is its' "discernment". You have never failed me when it comes to glowering a jaundiced eye on every frontal attack that has been made. Someone is always there to question a post, a link, a comment, or another poster's motives or identity. This makes it all very interesting as there can be no moving forward if "this dog won't hunt'.
One of my over-long posts brings me to an issue I think we should look at. (Besides the fact that the comments page is too long for dialups!) The overlong piece that I'm speaking about quotes Richard Hoagland's investigation into a heated up solar system as being the reason for our flyboy heroes in the sky:
"Richard C. Hoagland, among others, has been advocating such an energy transference between our universe and (for lack of a better term) a ”sister universe” for some years now. He has been all too aware of the significant changes happening with our sun and all the planets in our solar system. His latest paper discussing this phenomenon, (which he calls ”hyper-dimensional”) is ”Interplanetary Day After Tomorrow?” available to read at this URL: http://www.enterprisemission.com/_articles/05-14-2004/Interplanetary_1.htm
Mr. Hoagland has a brilliant and highly imaginative mind. He is also a maverick. Because some of his methods are unorthodox and his insight unsettling, much of the scientific establishment tends to dismiss his ideas. The irony is, years after they dismiss his observations they often are found rushing to publish papers in peer publications exactly echoing what he often first pointed out to them. Such is the history of the established norm versus the insightful innovators."
The writer (anonymous) goes on to say that Mr. Hoagland and his insight into solar system warming is why we need chemtrails. I don't recall anything on RCH's board that would indicate he had a position on chemtrails. Regardless, I think that we should discuss and explore this issue in-depth, especially considering that the IDAT article is a couple of years old. And I also think that this article posted in the comments recently about the urgent warning of imminent cataclysm in Northwestern United States is definitely a related issue cause to devote some time and human energy to finding the truth.
Any comments?
eric swan
posted by Anonymous at 3/29/2006 03:18:00 PM
390 Comments:
Yes, thanks Eric. It was timely, and needed! Dial-up readers, all hail Ericswan!
Thanks you, ms. t.
Hope all is going ok with you today.
Kind of like we were talking last week about is that UFO ET? or Black Ops? And in the big picture, it could be both. Well, mabe the same with the CTs and HAARP and the scalar weapons...it's all part of a comprehensive plan, not just little separate mysteries. We need to keep collecting data, watching for the signs.
Bubba,
How about CTs to save the asses of 'The Chosen'?
Of all the things I've read by RCH, I've never come across anything by him on the need for chemtrails as a response to the heating up of the solar system. I recall his expressing worry about the fate of the Earth in the context of overall heating of the planets in this system, if anyone has a link to RCH proposed solutions, I'd be glad to take a look at them. A quick skimming of the "day after" article does not reveal any proposed methods for dealing with earthly global warming; only that global warming is occurring throughout the solar system and that planets seemingly too far from the sun have developed some mindboggling changes in their climate recently. That by itself is worth everyone's attention.
Good blog, Eric!
Ms T: Though not previously expressed before, I have kept you in my thoughts as you go through tough times caring for your father. <<<<< find long compassionate, healing hug here>>>>>>
Bubba,
I agree with you on the chemtrails to save the world. No dice here on that.
eric,
You and everyone else here are what makes this blog roll. the interaction and resulting discussions have yielded a far greater understanding, for me although I am sure I am not alone saying that, of all things FSHOD. Meaning, our topics and the sifting of the info to generate understanding. I feel sorry for the folks who do not wish to open their minds to the possibilities that bad things exist in and on our little blue ball. I will make time tonight to look at Scott's latest. he has posted info such as this before regarding the anamolous seismic reading that had occurred in the asia-pacific area a few months back. I feel reading that article will be a very heavy experience. Will need some grokking time on that.
Wayne
Thanx for a good post Eric,
I also dont recall Hoagy suggesting chemtrails. Anonymous made that step on his own.
Hoagy's data that says all planets in solar system are "heating up" always seemed rather profound.
That really put a new spin on the whole global warming issue for me.
ATTENTION ALL HANDS
Henceforth all overlong posts will be deleted.
Use a link and maybe the first paragraph to spark an interest.
Anything obviously copied/pasted without a source link will also be deleted.
When in doubt,email me before posting. You know I'll work with you.
We DO have several Shoddies on dial-up and these ultra long posts make life most difficult.
So think of the other guy when posting!
Thanks!
hiya T !
good to seeya!
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SK,
OK, seems fair enough
I have only heard chem trails described on a global scale. I think any global effects are cumulative of regional.
Making it rain only works if you can make clouds appear wherever you want them. Assuming no clouds = no rain. Couldn't chem-trails be causing a sucking up of moisture from one area, so that the rain cloud could dump its load on another area.
It's just a twist ... chemicals to encourage evaporation ? Or to encourage precipitation ?
If you can control or direct rainfall ... you can do ALOT.
Abramoff gets 5 years. Is getting reduced sentence for fingering other targets for feds.
May spell end of road for Delay.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12066674/
Hi all...
Ericswan, great post, and nice picture at the top...
Great eclipse photos from today...
http://www.space.com/spacewatch/060329_solar_eclipse.html
This Dawn mission sounds familiar...
http://www.space.com/news/060327_dawn_mission.html
Something interesting about Saturn's rings...
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060329_saturn_moonlets.html
For anyone who wants to keep track of where the MRO is at...
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mro/mission/rightnow.html
John
I wrote the author of the earthquake/volcano/scalar attack and asked a few questions. Here is my questions (second) and his answer (first).
Dear Eric,
Thanks for the compliment. I do not maintain a mailing list, but you
can find my work at www.weatherwars.info.
My next article will address some of the requests posed in your email.
This will be out in about two weeks.
I believe you are far enough inland, and will not have any problems
when it all goes down.
As to your government, allow me to advise you in the same way I am
advising many others who express concern along similar lines. Your
'Government' does not run Canada, someone else is running your
government -and they merely carry out the orders they are given.
Viewed in that light, you can see why I refer to governments as
lackeys, for that is what they are.
Many have difficulties embracing the concept that a 'government' is
not a government at all, but merely a front for a small clique who
pull the strings. But, when you look at the strange things going on
around you, like that soup in the sky above you, and neither your
government, newspapers, radio and TV say a thing about it... Well it
makes you begin to think.
Canada is about to radically step up the militarization of the far
north. I guess the polar bears up there are turning into skinheads,
because there are certainly no people to worry about. You need to ask
yourself why. As to voting, well it hasn't meant a thing since the
late 60's anyway. It's kind of like a ritual at the Local Moose Lodge.
Kind regards,
Harbinger
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On 3/29/06, eric swan wrote:
> I have a copy of "America At The Brink" and recognize some of the references
> ie go no go. I appreciate the work that you have done and have posted your
> link to several individuals. I would appreciate being added to your mailing
> list. You mentioned other "sites" and other fault lines in Canada and that
> you didn't have room for these in the paper. Could you send me what you
> have on the Canadian installations and possible targets.
>
> I live in Kamloops, B.C. We recently had a military exercise involving
> 1,000 soldiers doing live ammunition and parachute activity and God knows
> what else for over a week in early March. Today, fire crews were out
> burning brush around communications towers. One gets the feeling that an
> enormous number of people are involved in this process of population
> reduction but being compartmentalized, have no idea what it is they are a
> part of. The chemtrails were just like soup today. This is very different
> to me as I have been documenting and photographing clouds and jets every day
> since last June. This Conservative prime minister has obviously stepped up
> the program and is doing so with only 34% of the popular vote. I don't
> think we will get to vote again. It's sad with a country so obviously near
> empty as Canada is that we cannot see our way to provide for ourselves and
> many others. eric swan
>
Sunking: thank you for accepting this abbreviated blog. I didn't do nearly as much work as you and others (TB) have done in the past but I'm not nearly as smart as youz guys. I wonder if we could gather some data on "solar system warming"? This is almost too strange to talk about but RCH (link in blog) points to numerous reasons for believing that this is so and this was written 2 years ago. Since then Mars has developed a second red cyclone as big as the first and our Arctic regions have been melting at an extraordinary rate. I have been reading about elevated space energy hitting the planet but don't have a handle on it. What about this Schumann Resonance that some were discussing previously? Does this indicate some kind of transformation in our solar system? I always thought that more energy meant bigger sunspots but it seems to me that the sun was actually dead quiet or sunspots were being emitted but blasting away from earth. Wasn't there some volcanic activity on one of Saturn's moons just recently? What is going on?
I get the feeling that the solar system warming thingy is sorta like the elephant in the room no one is talking about, IF it is the greater cause of global warming, meaning that hydrocarbons actually have little to do with global warming, and things like hydrogen cars and Kyoto treaties have relatively little to do with reducing global warming. I'm sure that if this is true, our enlightened leaders know it, which adds yet another twist to figuring out their bizarre behavior.
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eric, was it that the schumann resonance is changing? (btw isnt it jupiter that has a new red spot?)
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Hey all!
I still catching up, but I wanted to respond to a comment from the last blog:
sunking said...
->But it WOULD be nice if there was some unwritten standard about items poted here...<-
My suggestion would be perhaps we should consider adopting some sort of fair use standard on board the Good Pod FSHOD. :) I would suggest limiting copy / paste jobs to succinct snippets that highlight and are relevant to the points 'yer trying to make with reference links back to the entire article. If you do it right you will increase the liklihood of folks actually reading TFA (The Fuckin' Article for those of you who don't read SlashDot, hehe).
On the one hand: "Here's a cool article I think you'll like" is pretty much useless and silly and guarantees I'm not gonna waste my time since you were too damn lazy to at least try and garner my interest.
On the other hand, reposting entire 4 and 5 page articles tends to kill bandwidth and make life miserable for those not on broadband (and yes, I'M guilty too and will endeavour to not continue to do so, this is MY pact with you guys of MY own volition for the sake to betterment for all).
We really need to find some middle ground.
DarkWood
Uni say..
eric, was it that the schumann resonance is changing? (btw isnt it jupiter that has a new red spot?)
my bad..I may have "exagerated" the size of the new spot. If this is an atmospheric phenomenon than what is the motivation for it.
Hi all...
The Fool, I really don't read stuff on weatherwars anymore, because it really doesn't interest me as much as it used to, unless it's about SOHO...
I'm not into the whole "weather war" thing as much as I used to be. I'm more interested in what's going on in the rest of the Solar System. Speaking of which, I just found some facinating new Cassini pictures...
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/index.cfm
Isn't there supposed to be a hexagon at Jupiter's north pole?...
John
I thought there was one on Jupiter as well, because of the "Hyperdimensional Hurricanes?" article...
http://www.enterprisemission.com/hurricane1.htm
Also, the latest SOHO C3 image...
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/javagif/gifs/20060330_0218_c3.gif
John
Ms T,
Speaking of Mexico and our boy Bush;
Yet another NWO related issue
From Alex Jones:
re 500,000 plus people demonstrating in LA this past weekend:
The catalyst for the agenda to intern millions of Americans deemed subversive in a time of manufactured chaos could be race riots kick-started by radicalized Mexican Klan groups and their establishment controllers.
Yesterday we reported on the immigration protests that are a front for the violent separatist Atzlan movement. After watching Spanish TV news stations we were able to ascertain that the marches were not wholly an organic response to the introduction of the immigration bill but were being artificially promoted and organized by the Spanish-language media.
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/300306raceriots.htm
more background;
http://www.infowars.com/articles/immigration/deisyseis_partone.htm#plan
Who do we like now?
RCH aint what he used to be (or is he?)
So, who do the shodsters trust these days?
I ask cuz I've been reading some Alex Jones lately, and got to thinkin about who is worthy of trust.
I think I will vote for him when FSHOD nominates people that we like / trust.
Who else? Scott Stevens?
I'd like to hear who else my mates would nominate.
Prick Cheney ?
ROFLMAO ! Too funny !
Nope, I missed the broadcast.
ericswan,
Your shameless promotion of Hoagland is both an insult to amatures who have his ideas before him and to scientists who also had the same ideas, which you ignore.
MW
T,
yep.
but monkey,
eric, others, and I do not know of others preceding rch's works.
I think eric etc would give credit if it were know where credit is due
bryansail said...
Good post ericswan,
the articles posted on chemtrails
are completely over the top, crazy, emotional, too far out,
too much to believe, unlikely, etc.
For over 4 years I've been watching contrails, at various
points in the past I have had doubts but I am now sure
that there is some sort of aerosol program. I still don't
know the purpose of the spraying, so those articles posted by ericswan
have always bothered me. The USAF routes that I see from
my home are flown very irregularly, perhaps other days they
are flying in other directions. Never once have I seen these
planes NOT leaving a long lasting trail-they always have
a huge swath behind them even on very dry days where
commercial jetliners at altitude are leaving no trails.
I do scan the skies looking for the USAF planes when there
are no trails and thusfar haven't seen them-it appears that
they ALWAYS leave trails regardless the atmospheric conditions.
I doubt that inefficient engines of old planes accounts for
such a monstrous difference in contrails. I have taken
video of this but plan to re-take it on a day where commercial
planes are not leaving long lasting trails as I think I can
clearly demonstrate the difference-one that nearly proves
something being dispensed in addition to spent fuel components.
I have read an (unverified) account of one of the USAF pilots
who was asked about chemtrails saying that 'we are having trouble
with our ozone layer' which ties in neatly with both of
ericswan's posts. Imagine you are a pilot painting the
sky day in and day out, wouldn't you require a dandy explanation
for what you're doing? One that would require secrecy and one
that would make the pilots feel good about their work, man
it must get boring.
A plan to spray goop that makes people sick (per a government
report that I'm trying to find) defineately would require a very
desperate reason. I think the articles seem like b.s. because
some of the information in both articles is crap. The connection
w/ RCH's solar system heating is a very clever tie in. I find the
data that massive changes are occuring all across the solar system
believeable, but doubt that a chemtrail shield is being used to
combat it. As RCH liked to blog, the lie is different at every level
and perhaps the deepshield guy discovered a very different reason
for the chemtrails before his suicide. The speculating on these
issues drives me nuts. I would defineately like more defineate
information.
Here's one that will sound absolutely crazy but for those of you
in heavy spray areas try it. On very heavy spray
days-I see sparkling or a glimmering in my field of vision, tiny
sparkles everywhere on spray days. On days without spraying (like
today-just after a very heavy rainstorm here) I do not see any
sparkles. The sparkling effect is absolutely stunning some days,
takes a few moments to see it, almost have to unfocus. Just try
it, I realize it sounds nuts but I think the shine on metals that
are only a few microns in size can literally be seen. It looks
like tiny, tiny flashings. My observation of this is always on
sunny days of course and I was shocked how today in the sun I
DEFINEATELY did not see that sparkling effect.
Still hoping to get a friend to use earthgrid software for the
ley lines. He mentioned on the phone tonight that Cathie's
already done this, his software is available for a small fee. Couldn't
we just incorporate his gridwork into the cities? My friend
also mentioned (said it was his) theory that the middle east
has been blasted by a monstrous electrical discharge in the
past-ala a thunderbolt. He says it is too large of an equatorial
area to be all desert. So he suspects it received a HUGE
blast at some point in the past. Myth and Bible tie in?
Hi ms t, :) ... all tha other f-shoddies too ! :)
Bryan
anonymous, those seem long, interesting reading yah, but
as sunking suggests do a paragraph and give us a link-
believe me the shoddies here do go and read the links
that are put here, same effect, w/ out slowing the page loads!
Of course you must have read sunkings request.... hmmm....
B U.. you seem to have the attitude that any aliens is a bad aliens. Would that have something to do with the fact that we occupy a fantastic planet compared to any that can be seen in space?
I think ericswan was praising the theory about planet warming and energy transferrance from a parallel universe - ideas that Hoagland articulates.
If you cornered the market on some ancient wisdom, or "information", you might whisper something to a science advisor, a popularizer who has access to millions of listeners. Having cornered the market, if you want people to be right - you would want others to be right for the wrong reasons.
If you wanted to maintain your monopoly on the information, you wouldn't tell anyone you have a scale model of Iapetus from 10,000BC. Some people want to get on C2C-AM to become popular, but the people with access to Dark Archives have more money than God. What they want is more information, feed-back and to guage public reaction to the idea.
So, following the Iapetus premise, you take the information you've gathered linking Earth civilization to Iapetus and hand it over to someone like RCH. Maybe you've already had similar converstions with Gene Roddenberry and the shape of the vehicle that brought us here was already popularized by George Lucas.
Beyond Sir Arthur C Clarke - we can ask, "What did he know ? And when did he know it ?" about many science fiction writers (science advisors too ?)
NASA is our controlled window on the frontier. Back when you could take your canoe to the frontier, there was a long history of controlling the flow of information about the frontier.
Lies were typically told to the commoners - about International Affairs especially. Remember that "working men of the world - unite !" call to arms from the Communist Manifesto ? That triggered Europe to form Black Chambers - the NSA is the parallel American version. The Cold War only heightened the deception - justified, sanitized and sanctified it.
Finally, a bolt from the blue for John that occurred to me yesterday - the perception these days is that anti-Imperialism is the exclusive domain of the left wing. This misconception began in the end of the Cold War, when "declinism" predicted the US would over-stretch. The Reaganomics of the day told the world that prosperity required "a BELIEF in the magic of the marketplace". Never mind the Savings & Loan scandals (and the Bush relatives involved) the right wing began painting the left as unilateralists because complex world affairs required multilateralism.
Trade barriers were typically the weapon of choice for domestic industry against internationals - and domestic industry was right wing. Industrial capitalism was swallowed up by finance capitalism in the 1960s. Right wing isolationists are systematically swept from the political map (starved out by inability to raise funds). Left wing criticism of War is painted as 'archaic isolationism' and changing horses in mid-stream.
Many economic isolationists became libertarians, or went to the left ... but the IDEAS for a model Republic are Republican. Trouble is, the Guilded Age produced railroad barons and captains of industry. The super-elites of Jekyll Island had NO problems trading in the Republic for a twisted form of Empire featuring 'Coca-colonization'.
The Republican Party is the Imperial Party because the Establishment can get more accomplished - unilaterally, if need be. The Democrats promote the idea of Internationalism, which is really anti-Imperialism Imperialism. The weakest part of the Democrats platform is it's foreign policy - it's no wonder they couldn't attack a war.
The Republicans see the US as an Empire - the Roman Empire unopposed - and point to the limousine liberals as the harbinger of the Fall of the American Empire. The Democrats, from what I've read, see the US as a hegemon, a leader of equal allies, like Athens leading other city states against Persia. The hegemonist dilemma : protectionism or free trade. Too much free trade for too long, and cheaper labour prices will put domestic workers out of business (like farmers in Great Britain).
A Big Oil President should not be allowed to shed blood for oil. No WMD's = no reason for war. No WMD's = Hans Blix was right and Dubya was wrong. No WMD's should have added up to censure of the President, if not impeachment. Wanna send a message to the Islamic World that we in the Western World are moral, trustworthy and we do the right thing ? Impeach Dubya and that poster-boy for Erectile Dysfunction - VP Cheney.
sk,
My vote to BSHOD anon for insubordination and dial-up disrespect.
W
Hi all...
NASA's astrobiology reaseach is in trouble...
http://www.space.com/searchforlife/060330_seti_thursday.html
Something just doesn't look right in this latest SOHO C3 gif...
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_c3.gif
John
John,
A post on the previous blog tells the opposite story on NASA's astrobiology research:
Funds for hunting extraterrestrial life restored by NASA
"NASA is planning to restore about $30 million to its astrobiology research programme over three years, agency officials said on Monday. Astrobiologists welcomed the news but vowed to put pressure on US lawmakers to reinstate all of the $160 million or so that has been cut from the programme over the next five years."
This was posted by "371 bohemia" on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:08:22 PM.
Check it for yourself and get your facts straight!!!
Worried about chemtrails, "Al Qaeda", and other boogymen ?
Be sure to watch your back.
The mexicans who march in the streets are carrying MEXICAN flags, not American ! That means they are not interested in American citizenship but rather "Re-Conquista".
They want nothing less than the entire American Southwest as a satellite mexican republic, "Aztlan".
Why is Bush and Congress not opposing them ?
Because they are traitors and La Raza will be their new under-paid fifth column.
This is only one of many ways they are attacking the American citizen.
And do not think this situation can be rectified at the ballot box. They are PROGRAMMING the ballot boxes. The time is here for hard decisions.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49482
Anonymous,
I said no overlong posts and use a link. I am deleteing these posts.
I'll provide a link for this.
Origins of the Overclass
Hello Shoddies ! :-)
Does that sound too much like shoddy ? I like 'the crew' of FSHOD better!
So I'll try NOT to mention drugs, or mental health, as I'll go into a 'Luxan
Hyper Rage' (you did all watch Farscape, did'nt you?).
ericswan...
> What's going on?
After reading various books about the Maya (and going there PHYSICALLY!) I'm with
RCH on the consciousness aspects of this "rising level of HD energy in the solar system".
It so intrigues me! The free energy machine that got mentioned that runs on this NRG
and "reacts to the consciousness energy of your own body" (Chi?).
The HP machine that got demonstrated on CNN in it's ability to 'de-nature' radioactive
material...what was that ?
The Maya seemed to be aware of HUGE cosmic cycles.
Could they have just 'seen this one coming' ?
With their 2012 date coinciding with the measurement of this rising energy AND
our growing awareness of it.
It's a COSMIC TIDE OF LOVE that's what it is !
bryansail...
> perhaps the deepshield guy discovered a very different reason
> for the chemtrails before his suicide.
I find it extraordinary that we're discussing a suicide, here, that has NOT been
verified. Doesn't that bother anyone ?
(I did'nt swear ounce in that whole post...how boring :-P )
DJBarney
Anonymous said...
WAR is a racket. It always has been.
I am deleting this post, too. Interesting blast from the past, slightly off-topic and would have allowed it to stay except this, taken with the other overlong anonymous, seems a test of wills. I will copy/paste it into the last blog comments.
Again, I would rather see the link...and YOUR comments in YOUR words about what YOU feel or think.
Link and dialog...link and dialog.
Same biz with the anonymous post about ARISE. Interesting and a good example of fascist corpocracy deception. I applaud your posting of it...except, again, YOU DEFY THE WILL OF THE SUNKING! lol ;)
Your reward: El BSHOD!
I reposted it in the last blog comments page for those who would lie to see it.
Link and diaglog....Link and dialog!
Thanks to all of you, the 'crewe', for your support re: posting porotcols. Using some of Uni's suggestions and moving worthy post to the last blog. The unworthy will be cast aside, BSHOD-style.
Re: the Blog.
I tend to agree with crypto with his take on erics position re: RCH. Again, the reason most of us are here is because RCH was a 'beacon of truth' and his work struck a chord in all of us. So he deserves props for that. I can separate that from the Captain's Blog Infamnia and the current commercialism. We don't know the fact so I don't judge too harshly.
But the subject of research that eric calls for is noble and worthy and we all should contribute to it. So Ericswan...you're now Solar System Watch/Research Officer. If you can think of thinks we need to look for or search for, give us a list. And we have folks from various parts of the world visiting here...they may have access to different sources of news/scientific journals/etc that can provide us with diverse viewpoints and data sources. So run with it, eric!
John,
Saw a big CME on the SOho gif and them some 'CCD artifacts?" towards the end. You need to write to them and ask them what that was, see what they say.
shroom/lurker V,
Welcome. Nice to see ya.
Darkwood,
Yes, fair use standards...I like that. I'm sure we don't need to be TOO exacting, but that seems emminently sensible standard to emulate. Thanks for that link.
Djb,
Bravo! and LMAO! at the 'Luxan Hyper Rage'!!!
DJB,
During the Mexican War in 1848, we did exactly that. Once we took Mexico City, and the possibility of Mexico as a another state in the Union confronted them, Congress backed down at the thought of all the Mexicans in the voting booths. The result was that our glorious army left Mexico to it's fate and returned home, after forcing them to sign a treaty to give up what is now being called "Aztlan".
That decision was as unwise as wounding a dangerous animal and letting it go, only to have it return latter.
I believe in the Monroe Doctrine... ONE hemisphere, ONE ENGLISH language. The melting pot idea only works up to a point. Right now we don't have enough heat to the pot to melt all the jalapenos that are trying to hop in.
One law ruling the hemisphere would allow effective eridication of the drug trade. Criminal activity, including that of the CIA and other NWO elements would then be under the authority of U.S. law. Smugglers would have to cross oceans rather than rivers.
If we do not conquer the hemisphere, the hemisphere will conquer us.
That sounds more like the Monroe Doctrind on steroids....and I'm not sure I agree with you.
You can eradicate the drug trade be legalizing!
Looks like Australia is getting socked with another hurricane. Cat 4?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060330/wl_nm/weather_australia_dc
unipax,
You and ericswan and others were warned on TEM, years ago, about claiming Hoagland said it first, when other self-effacing scientists had it in their papers before Hoagland.
Even the science fiction dreamer, name unknown to you, invented the concept of the "alledged face" long ago and Hoagland just blew that out of proportion, he didnt invent it nor did he or his assiciates see it first.
If ericswan wants to give credit for first, he should give a name to the science fiction (note fiction) writer. And no, no-one before him told the writer about it. It originated from his dreamy mind.
MW
The CIA runs the drugs - they don't want eradication of the drug trade.
However, they want the whole world to think that's their goal.
Republics are worked out in public (Declaration etc) while Imperialism is plotted in secrecy. The leaders of modern Imperialism exploit 'full spectrum dominance' - part of a sacred trust that the people gave to them during WWI, WWII, the Cold War and now the perpetual War on Terror. The people who waged class warfare from the Guilded Age to the stock market crash, through the "dirty 30s" suddenly needed the unwashed masses. That's where foreign affairs became detatched from domestic economic health - and why there is no more Isolationist movement.
The fact is, social democracy defeated communism - capitalism was simply dead weight along for the ride. Oh well, the anti-Imperialist Imperialism of the Soviet Bloc is gone, but each thing (Imperialism included) evokes its opposite and here we are, with Bush II continuing along-standing tradition of dictating democracy, enforcing freedom and extorting emancipation. There have been 70 Empires in World History - the US is #68 with China at #69 and the EU at #70 ... all are the same : will of the center imposed on peripheries ... only the elites of the metropolis benefit from Empire while the poor get to carry the guns. The US Empire began between 1845 and 1848 and went worldwide in 1898. Mark Twain said McKinley sent troops to the Philippines, "to fight with a disgraced musket under polluted flag" ... sound familiar ?
What do you think science fiction writers are paid for? Telling the truth to you?
MW
SK,
Yes, it is a MODIFIED "Monroe Doctrine". The American leadership at that time had no reason to expect the particular problems we have now.
Legalizing dangerous drugs in general does not solve anything.
Sure, legalize prescription Marijuana or it's derivatives for chronic or terminally ill people who need relief from pain.
But Coke, heroin, meth, no way.
We cannot have a society that is fully functional with everybody on recreational drugs, especially addictive ones.
Also, peasant farmers in the regions where these things are grown need to be conditioned back into growing food crops. They get into drugs because they can't make a living just growing food under the current situation. Right now, we spray those fields to kill the drug crops and poison the land in the process.And the drug dealers will not give up their "cuts" easily from this lucrative enterprise. All of these things can only be solved by direct U.S. control and involvement in changing entire environment away from this insanity.
"dictating democracy, enforcing freedom and extorting emancipation."
haha....I liked that crypt0. Well put post, thank you.
lurker V,
hmmm...I think we;d have had less problems had they legalized pot back in the 70's...and I don't mean that stupid medical stuff. My experience was, when people didn't have pot was the only time they turned to harder stuff. of course, you always have those that go striaight for the worst stuff available...but I'd think that would be a low percentage and are, to be callous and blunt, losers anyway.
It may sound good the bit about having the farmeers return back to growing crops, but then the US has been instrumental in ensuring that American growers maintain an advantage, with subsidies and such. Makes it hard for the poor foriegn farmer to compete with the mega-corp. growers.
I do not think the Pax Americana will solve anything...just replace one insanity for another.
I guess another thought is, the 'unknown' in your Modified Monroe Doctrine (MMD) is the overwhelming corrupting influence of the Corporate Globalists (i.e. greed). We're not fighting for freedom...we're fighting so the proponents of free trade can get richer and hook EVERYBODY on the 'good life'.
crypto2...
> Oh well, the anti-Imperialist Imperialism of the Soviet Bloc is gone,
Is'nt that it crypto2 ? That no one is standing up to the good 'ol US after
the fall of the Soviet Bloc ?
lurker v...
I did'nt say hello....so hello lurker v!
> Legalizing dangerous drugs in general does not solve anything.
Surely it would at least take out the lucrative profits to made
by criminals in this area ?
> We cannot have a society that is fully functional with everybody on recreational drugs
GetADrugYouLifeAddicts [username seen on my file sharing software].
> conditioned back into growing food crops.
Which will still be a 'subsistence' existence until fair trade comes in.
> All of these things can only be solved by direct U.S. control
I'm with you, right up to this point. Why does the US have exlusive rights and
responsibility for helping people and solving problems ?
To go back to your previous article:
> I believe in the Monroe Doctrine.
"The doctrine was conceived by its authors, especially John Quincy Adams, as a proclamation by the United States of moral opposition to colonialism",
But was then revised to allow US military intervention into countries that did'nt provide
a threat...of a military nature anyway.
I'd like to read the original text. Thanks for bringing this up ! This never gets mentioned
when people talk of the US being 'world policemen' or 'having invaded iraq', or 'are going
to invade Iran'...I think I may be beginning to understand now :-]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine
> ONE hemisphere, ONE ENGLISH language.
Try ONE LOVE ! The only ONE that is common between all men and women !
You are THE ONE !
...
I appreciate your desire to bring order, but I've only just met you.
DJBarney
You are assuming authority to promote.
Monkey Wrench
"Monkey Wrench said...
You are assuming authority to promote
I'd take a care, MW...the bilge pumps need cleaning and oiling! :)
Djb,
LOL re: GADYLA
OH! Before I forget...re: The Imminent Threat to the NorthWest.
Goro has for about the last 3-5 months, pinpointed the Pacific Northwest for some major event such as this. All the signs and portents, from Hurricane Katrina on, say it is so.
Administrator Griffin and Deputy Administrator Dale to Hold NASA Update - March 30, 2006
NASA Administrator Michael Griffin and Deputy Administrator Shana Dale will hold a NASA Update Thursday at 3 p.m. EST in the headquarters auditorium to discuss NASA's revised principles and policies on scientific and technical openness. The program is scheduled to run for one hour. Questions from NASA employees at headquarters and from the field centers are invited.
You may watch the update on NASA TV and on the Web. To view the program online, see the internal center resources listed at
http://insidenasa.nasa.gov/nasa_nas/ops/nasatv
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371 Bohemia
P.S. apologies for the late notice of my previous (above) post.
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371 Bohemia
No Problem....thanks Bohemia!
None of what I said can be achieved with the present treasonous Democratic and Republican power structure in place.
George W. Bush is himself a corrupt drug addict and so he will allow the culture to continue. Administration policy will mirror the values of the President.
If people who are otherwise healthy need drugs to make their lives bearable, there is always a problem. Drug dependency in America must end or America will end.
If the CIA would stop spraying poison on countries like Columbia and allow the rainforest to regenerate, the climate should allow the farmers to grow productive food crops to make their local communities independent and have extra to sell.
Replacement of corrupt government in those areas can make that happen.
I call for hemispheric conquest because only the most radical action can save us now. And it must be preceded by trials and executions of players within our own government.
We have allowed the wool to be pulled over our eyes for much too long.
Call it Monroe Doctrine or whatever. I use that term as a recognizable reference that Ronald Reagan used to talk about.
Here is another link from Frosty Wooldridge about the matter:
http://www.rense.com/general70/d4sp.htm
American Civics - Vol 2.
Warning: a few cuss words for those sensitive types.
Lurker,
Big Pharmaceutical ain't gonna like that 'Drug Dependency in America Must End' stuff! lol.
Understood re: usage of term 'Monroe Doctrine'...tho, like DjB said, probably wouldn't hurt for folk to revisit that policy.
I have real problems with the War on Drugs...more symptomatic of naziism, provides training and a career path for CIA-wannabees, way to open to corruption. Accept facts...there will always be a segment of a population who do drugs, booze, gambling, etc. It's been around forever. It has not meant the death of mankind, because only a portion of folks do it. But if you make a big deal out of it in the 60's and 70's, trying to force a rebellious society into submission, they just cannot not say 'we were wrong', no it looks much better to enrich the military/industrial complex even further and designate another brach of government.
'If you believe in justice,
and if you believe in freedom,
let a man live his own life,
rules and regulations, who needs them.....open up the door' - CSNY Chicago
or is that 'throw 'em out the door'?
Dear shoddy podlings (especially, Monkey Wreunch)
After the visionary presentation by Monkey Wrench and his theories of space-time, as well as the "expanding planet" comedy in the previous blog, Monkey See contacted thunderbolts.info and questioned them on the matter, as they also believe gravity has changed considerably over time.
first is their response w. Monkey-See's original question at the end.
Some material for further research.
nite-nite fruit loops !
Dear Monkey-See,
The statement about gravity dependence was most terse and inadequate, I agree.
The best model we have seen put forward for gravity was conceived by the physicist Ralph Sansbury. He postulates that on the sub-sub-atomic level there are charged particles which he calls subtrons (replacing quarks). In his thinking combinations of subtrons always have di-polarity, which is the root cause of mass & gravity.
In Arp's universe, galaxies are born as ejected quasars that then differentiate into galaxies and stars. We agree, but in our world the quasars are huge globs of positive charged material that gain mass as electrons catch up to the ejection and start neutralizing it over vast amount of time. It would be on the galactic level that the overall charge imbalance would affect the dipolarity and therefore gravity. We think that whole galaxies undergo quantized shifts in the effective field of gravity, probably along with the shifts in redshift..
I know this is sweeping and still very terse, but there are very good reasons for thinking this way. Someday, more of this will get published. Anyway, you get a better feel for how deep the current assumptions go in terms of mass, etc.
I know, I know!!! The above raises more question.
----- Original Message -----
From: Monkey-See
To: wijn19@kabelfoon.nl ; michael@thunderbolts.info
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:03 AM
Subject: Contact from site
Dear Sirs,
I was reading your archived article entitled "Impossible Dinosaurs" and was struck by your comment that Earth's gravity in the past was much less because of a different plasma environment ? Would you please elaborate on how such a thing is possible ?
If the Earth were to be immersed in a spherical shell of plasma, the net gravitational effect at the planet surface as measured by an observer would be null because of the spherical symmetry and inverse square law characteristic of the gravitational force.
Even for an observer deep within the Earth, the net gravitational force is toward the center and it is calculated only by considering the mass contained within an imaginary sphere below his feet and by ignoring all the mass above him.
If the plasma were not spherically symmetrical and uniform, asymmetries in the gravitational field should be observable at different points on the surface of the Earth, but as far as I know, nothing significant of that nature exists.
I would very much be interested in learning about your reasoning here.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050623impossible-dinosaur.htm
Monkey see,
well...I had always thought of quasars as mere ...QUASistellAR radio sources...just spitting our EM...never knew about them spitting out galaxies, even tho they seem to 'eat' of lot of things.
Not being that smart, can you then tell me what is this import/end-meaning/interpretation of your communications with thunderbolt, please?
And how does that impact the 'expanded planet' theory?
Oh...and where are quasars 'spit out' from? Black holes, I assume?
SK,
Expanded planet theory was put forth in previous blog as explanation for why gravity may have been lower in the past to allow great big dinosaurs to walk on land. Many things not make sense about such theory.
Thunderbolts.info wrote article (referenced above) on website which peripherally mentioned that they think plasma environment in ancient universe could affect gravity in galaxy. Me think this interesting so me ask them to elaborate. Hence, answer above which very briefly discloses new theory of gravity.
New theory of gravity says gravity caused by electromagnetic forces at sub-sub-atomic level. Basically, such EM forces cause a "drag" effect on accelerated objects in flat space-time that can be shown equivalent to forces caused by CURVED space-time on stationary object. In other words, this theory promises to explain gravity by getting rid of need to distort space-time.
Thunderbolts believe plasma content of galaxy affect these EM forces and therefore affect gravity of Earth and everything else.
So there.
Go here for detailed articles on various aspects of theory.
http://www.calphysics.org/gravitation.html
Still not sure I completely understand the big picture, but understood your response...thos still confusticated!
May have to breakdown and go read the articles at TB.
Thank you very much.
More research into polar warming;
Unexpected warming in Antarctica
Winter air temperatures over Antarctica have risen by more than 2C in the last 30 years, a new study shows.
Research published in the US journal Science says the warming is seen across the whole of the continent and much of the Southern Ocean.
The study questions the reliability of current climate models that fail to simulate the temperature rise.
More food for thought. I hpe we still have food.....do we?
Wayne
SK,
Redshift theories of Halton Arp- go here.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/00subjectx.htm#Quasars
He think quasars get kicked out of Galaxies that get too big by massive electrical forces. They come out in pairs when that happens.
My local AM talk radio station has an interesting sounding guest tomorrow on the David Allen Show. This is a Christian station and this guy is a Christian (so you can listen, John!), but he doesn't shove it down one's throat...and he often has some very intersting show. Tomorrow is this one:
Patrick Heron - "The Nephilim and the Pyramid of the Apocalypse"
Start: Mar 31 2006 - 5:00pm
End: Mar 31 2006 - 6:00pm
Timezone: EST/GMT-5
Patrick Heron's book to throws light on a mysterious race known as the NEPHILIM, and to provide evidence of who built the pyramids of Egypt and Mexico and other great monuments of ancient history.
It is the first book to show that the dark forces which roamed the Earth in those primeval times will once again be at large during the coming Apocalypse, with the purpose of visiting mass destruction on an unsuspecting world.
This is the link for the radio station to Listen Live:
WJGR
This is the website for Patrick Heron...
http://www.nephilimapocalypse.com/_welcome/welcome.asp
I know...another mystery guide, but what else am I gonna listen to on the way home? You might even here me (Steve from Fleming Island) calling in!
OK, MkySee...was also wondering what an Arp universe was...you mean there's more than one?
Wayne,
What do we eat?
"Beans, son...lotsa beans" - John Wayne
Origins of the Overclass was a GREAT article - thanks for preserving the link, SK ... and I vote Monkey-See the Secretary of State for Correspondence ! Impossible dinosaurs is a question that undermines alot of Earth's presumed past - excellent question and an honest effort at an answer by thunderbolts.
I thoroughly enjoyed the American Civics lesson - it seems that irreverence is a byproduct of hypocrisy. I wasn't this cynical in the 80s, when Jim & Tammy Bakker were in full swing and Ronald Reagan was setting fire to social safety nets.
sunking said;
Wayne,
What do we eat?
"Beans, son...lotsa beans" - John Wayne
Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:00:30 PM
Well.....is that an alternative fuel source or free energy doubling as a food? ;)
Wayne
As the massive bunker-buster blast shakes the city of Las Vegas and the old Howard Hughes apartment building sways, a mysterious phone call goes to the White House and all testing ceases...... Ha!Ha!Ha!
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/30/060330162648.wxde5ocl.html
from Alex Jones;
Venezuelan Government To Launch International 9/11 Investigation
Truth crusaders Walter and Rodriguez to appear on Hugo Chavez's weekly TV broadcast
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | March 31 2006
Billionaire philanthropist Jimmy Walter and WTC survivor William Rodriguez this week embarked on a groundbreaking trip to Caracas Venezuela in which they met with with the President of the Assembly and will soon meet with Venezuelan President himself Hugo Chavez in anticipation of an official Venezuelan government investigation into 9/11.
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/310306launchinvestigation.htm
"Billionaire philanthropist Jimmy Walter and WTC survivor William Rodriguez this week embarked on a groundbreaking trip to Caracas Venezuela in which they met with with the President of the Assembly and will soon meet with Venezuelan President himself Hugo Chavez in anticipation of an official Venezuelan government investigation into 9/11."
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Well, I guess that means Venezuela has slipped over to the dark side and become a terrorist state, cuz Bush said "You're with us or you're with the terrorists.
With Jimmy Walters on board, the investigation results are predictable, but who's gonna hear about it from major media? Will CNN announce results?
Maybe NBC will have Charlie Sheen on as a guest anchor, just to announce the results...
Jimmy Walter is the reopen911.org guy that mails out free reopen911 DVDs.
I get the feeling that Hugo Chavez is not a fan of Bush.
(The general leans against a wooden Indian in front of the Tobacco store)...(puff,puff)...xcuse me whilst I light ma seegar...(puff,puff)
Well now, I seem ta remember them Yankees spyin' on us with them toy balloons they liked ta go up in back durin' the late War of Northern Aggression.
We done got accurate measurements of their maximum payload by systematically addin' calibrated lead weight to the craft...(PUFF,PUFF,PUFF)
...Hope I ain't been too cryptic as to ma meanin' ! (puff,puff,puff)
http://news.com.com/Drone+aircraft+may+prowl+U.S.+skies/2100-11746_3-6055658.html
Bit more on Walters and Rodriguez;
"The US government attempted to sabotage the trip by putting Rodriguez, who has been decorated at the White House itself, and Walter on a no fly list."
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that sucks.
Finally got to read Scott's NW US destruction article. He really paints a solid picture of the entire situation. I've understood his information and really feel he has something strong in his paper.
I wonder if this will tie in with that nook in Texas City that Artic Beacon was talking about? Anyway, what Scott is saying is that the forces he sees at work are far superior than some nook. I had always wondered why they made that movie Supervolcano and showed it about three times or so on TDC. Then, THC shows a special on cannibalism. Getting the scouts ready to go I guess. Doesn't look good for anything if all that goes down. Beyond disturbing. :(
I find it interesting that a comet headed into our region (within 6-8 million miles of earth) suddenly and inexplicably broke into several large chunks which are presently streaming into our neighbourhood. This reminds me of another comet or asteroid that bombarded one of our neighbouring planets and for reasons unknown, was visible to all but just barely. This was another heavenly body that had broken into several pieces and followed each other into the planet (Jupipter?).
The point is tha solar system warming is not "warm" it is simply more energy or a higher vibration or an "excited" state which at absolute zero is not noticeably warmer but may be measurably "excited". I wonder if these heavenly bodies in deep cold space are being "excited" and if so, would they give us indicators that can be observed.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index894.htm
And now for yet a different perspective on the not to distant Yellowstone Park disaster..
Sunking..stop the presses..LOL
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index895.htm
xekxkduk
highlights from
http://www.enterprisemission.com/_articles/05-14-2004_Interplanetary_Part_1/Interplanetary_1.htm
The entire solar system - not just our one small planet -- is currently undergoing profound, never-before-seen physical changes. This paper will address and scientifically document a wide variety of significant examples, drawing from a host of published mainstream sources.
We will also outline a new scientific model that, for the first time, coherently explains these simultaneous interplanetary changes via a fundamental “new Physics” - a Physics that predicts “even greater anomalies to come”…
Here are some highlights:
Sun: More activity since 1940 than in previous 1150 years, combined
Mercury: Unexpected polar ice discovered, along with a surprisingly strong intrinsic magnetic field … for a supposedly “dead” planet
Venus: 2500% increase in auroral brightness, and substantive global atmospheric changes in less than 30 years
Earth: Substantial and obvious world-wide weather and geophysical changes
Mars: “Global Warming,” huge storms, disappearance of polar icecaps
Jupiter: Over 200% increase in brightness of surrounding plasma clouds
Saturn: Major decrease in equatorial jet stream velocities in only ~20 years, accompanied by surprising surge of X-rays from equator
Uranus: “Really big, big changes” in brightness, increased global cloud activity
Neptune: 40% increase in atmospheric brightness
Pluto: 300% increase in atmospheric pressure, even as Pluto recedes farther from the Sun
At the end of WWII, when the US targeted 300 corporations for dismantling in Japan & West Germany - was that supposed to be retributive ? Or regenerative ?
It was supposed to be retributive - the people who dominate geo-politics also dominate financially. Individually, dismantling the top 300 US corporations would be a fate worse the death ... but guess what happened in Japan and West Germany ... funny (and suspicious) we don't hear too many politicians suggesting we try dismantling our top 300 corporations.
Oh well, Unipax (Hawaii) and Other Side of the Pacific (Singapore) are thinking about Imperialism - so, I thought I'd put that out there as a monkey wrench :-)
While I'm at it - The History Channel came up and what has always disappointed me about TV media and the cause of the US entry into WWI - the Lusitania had 128 Americans on board and did NOT cause the US entry into WWI. What did ? The German treaty with President Carranza, where Mexico agreed to invade Texas, New Mexico and Arizona if the US entered the War in Europe. THAT is the turning point when Manifest Destiny turned global and the US went after Germany.
From NASA Administrator Dr. Michael Griffin:
NASA Principles and Policies on Scientific Openness
In February, I released an agency-wide message expressing my views on the issue of scientific openness and the role of public affairs within the agency. In that message I emphasized NASA's commitment to open scientific and technical inquiry and dialogue with the public. The message also stated that we would institute an effort to revise existing public affairs policies to correct any deficiencies, and to make sure they are fair, reasonable and easily understood. I am writing to you today to report on the results of this work.
I wish to thank the members of the working group who helped develop the set of principles and policies that will govern how we work with the news media to inform the public about our mission and research activities. This policy group, comprised of representatives from science, engineering, law, public
affairs and management, did an exemplary job of addressing a broad range of issues in an effort to achieve our goal of openness in scientific and technical communications, while at the same time respecting the need to coordinate agency communications properly.
The resulting new policy, which will be available today on our Web site at
http://www.nasa.gov/commpolicy,
contains a statement of principles and revised policies that will enable better cooperation across our agency and more effective communication with the public. These principles are:
- A commitment to a culture of scientific and technical openness which values the free exchange of ideas, data and information. Scientific and technical information concerning agency programs and projects will be accurate and unfiltered.
- Consistent with NASA's statutory responsibility, providing for the widest practicable and appropriate dissemination of information concerning NASA activities and their results.
- To ensure timely release of information, NASA will endeavor to ensure cooperation and coordination among the agency's scientific, engineering and public affairs communities.
- In keeping with the desire for a culture of openness, NASA employees may, consistent with this policy, speak to the press and the public about their work.
The policy provides several important provisions in support of the principles outlined above that I feel are worth further comment. First, it lays out clear guidelines for working with public affairs and unambiguously states what public affairs officers can and cannot do. Second, it guarantees that NASA scientists may communicate their conclusions to the media, but requires that they draw a distinction between professional conclusions and personal views that may go beyond the scope of their specific technical work, or beyond the purview of the agency. Third, it sets forth a dispute resolution process to ensure that all parties have a route of appeal in communicating scientific and technical information. Lastly, it establishes clear areas of responsibility and methods of coordination which are intended to clarify and improve the communications process.
The principles and provisions of this revised policy will inform and guide NASA's public interactions. Realistically, not every scientific inquiry or engineering development will be deemed worthy of a press release, despite the sometimes strong opinions of the scientists or engineers involved in the work. Decisions concerning the newsworthiness of the numerous activities within NASA must be made and carried out in a coordinated fashion, but with views from all parties considered. This revised policy is an important step in that direction.
It is worth recalling that in the infancy of the space program, a difficult but very wise decision was made to allow live television coverage of our first Mercury launch, even though this left open the possibility of an embarrassing, even fatal, failure being broadcast to the world. On that day, the world watched with us as Alan Shepard was successfully launched on his, and our nation's first flight into space. NASA has remained true to this policy of open communication of both successes and failures ever since. We remain fully committed to that same standard today.
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371 Bohemia
The transformation of the world is brought about by the transformation of
oneself, because the self is the product and a part of the total process of
human existence.
To transform oneself, self-knowledge is essential, without knowing yourself
there cannot be transformation.
J. Krishnamurti
biological_unit,
Can I call you Chiam?
I can relate more friendly that way.
Together can can create yishuv. Now, I ask again nicely, what did Leibowitz due to alter Ohanian Physics?
Can you please tell me? Also, have a happy Bunsen Burner Day!
Hi all...
Shroom, I looked at that second NASA astrobiology funding article, and discovered that it's 2 days behind the space.com article...
The article you put up came out March 28...
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn8906-funds-for-hunting-extraterrestrial-life-restored-by-nasa.html
...while the space.com article came out March 30...
http://www.space.com/searchforlife/060330_seti_thursday.html
One of them is correct, but which one?...
SK, I'm pretty sure I know what they'd say if I wrote them about the SOHO "artifacts"...
Anyone else find the presence of PROPELLERS in Saturn's rings a little odd?...
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/index.cfm
John
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin
The griffin (also spelled gryphon, gryphen, griffon or gryphin) is a legendary creature with the body of a lion and the head of an eagle with the addition of prominent ears. The female has the wings of an eagle. The griffin is generally represented with four legs, wings and a beak, with eagle-like talons in place of a lion's forelegs and equine ears jutting from its skull. Some writers describe the tail as a serpent. See the entry European dragon for a 19th century painting of St George and the dragon, showing a dragon very like a classically-conceived griffin.
Classical and heraldic griffons are male and female. A so-called "male" griffin, called a keythong in a single 15th-century English heraldic manuscript, is an anomaly that belongs strictly to a late phase of English heraldry.
From:
http://www.babynamesworld.com/
Griffin
Origin: Greek
Meaning: Mythological Beast
Michael
Origin: Hebrew
Meaning: who is like God
Apparently, this story was linked to Drudge..
This is the second time that I've seen this posted to the Internet and felt that it required a full exposure..
US to test 700-tonne explosive
Mar 30 11:26 AM US/Eastern
The US military plans to detonate a 700 tonne explosive charge in a test called "Divine Strake" that will send a mushroom cloud over Las Vegas, a senior defense official said.
"I don't want to sound glib here but it is the first time in Nevada that you'll see a mushroom cloud over Las Vegas since we stopped testing nuclear weapons," said James Tegnelia, head of the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
Tegnelia said the test was part of a US effort to develop weapons capable of destroying deeply buried bunkers housing nuclear, chemical or biological weapons.
"We have several very large penetrators we're developing," he told defense reporters.
"We also have -- are you ready for this - a 700-tonne explosively formed charge that we're going to be putting in a tunnel in Nevada," he said.
"And that represents to us the largest single explosive that we could imagine doing conventionally to solve that problem," he said.
The aim is to measure the effect of the blast on hard granite structures, he said.
"If you want to model these weapons, you want to know from a modeling point of view what is the ideal best condition you could ever set up in a conventional weapon -- what's the best you can do.
"And this gets at the best point you could get on a curve. So it allows us to predict how effective these kinds of weapons ... would be," he said.
He said the Russians have been notified of the test, which is scheduled for the first week of June at the Nevada test range.
"We're also making sure that Las Vegas understands," Tegnelia said.
Opinion
Is it the weather or government terror?
By Jerry Mazza
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October 22, 2005—Government manipulation of weather for terror and destruction is one pattern your local weatherman is surely not pointing out. So let me help with the forecast, past, present and long-range.
Starting on December 26, 2004, you had the Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami, an undersea earthquake that generated a tsunami that killed approximately 275,000 people. As the linked article reports, the magnitude of the Indian Ocean quake now stands at 9.15, making it one of the most deadly and frightening in history. From the third paragraph, come some hair-raising facts . . .
In May, scientists reported that the earthquake itself lasted nearly ten minutes when most major earthquakes last no more than a few seconds; it caused the entire planet to vibrate at least a few centimetres. It also triggered earthquakes elsewhere, as far away as Alaska.
The section on "Tectonic Plates" gives two more earth-shaking pieces of information . . .
. . . Seismographic and acoustic data indicate that the first phase involved the formation of a rupture about . . . 250 mi . . . long and . . . 60 mi wide, located . . . 19 mi . . . beneath the sea bed - the longest known rupture ever known to have been caused by an earthquake (italics mine) . . .
As well as the sideways movement between the plates, the sea bed is estimated to have risen by several metres, displacing an estimated . . . 7 cu mi . . . of water and triggering devastating tsunami waves. The waves did not originate from a point source, as mistakenly depicted in some illustrations of their spread, but radiated outwards along the entire . . . 750 mi . . . length of the rupture. This greatly increased the geographical area over which the waves were observed, reaching as far as Mexico, Chile and the Arctic. The raising of the sea bed significantly reduced the capacity of the Indian Ocean, producing a permanent rise in the global sea level by an estimated 0.1 mm.
Stated more simply, these facts point to an extraordinary amount of energy expended to produce extraordinary events, including a permanent rise in sea level. From the "Power of the earthquake" section, there are more unsettling statistics . . .
The total energy released by the earthquake in the Indian Ocean . . . is equivalent to 100 gigatons of TNT, or about as much energy as is used in the United States in 6 months. It is estimated to have resulted in an oscillation of the Earth's surface of about 20–30 cm (8 to 12 in), equivalent to the effect of the tidal forces caused by the Sun and Moon. The shock waves of the earthquake were felt across the planet; as far away as Oklahoma, vertical movements of 3 mm (0.12 in) were recorded. The entire Earth's surface is estimated to have moved vertically by up to 1 cm (italics mine).
. . . It also caused the Earth to minutely "wobble" on its axis by up to 2.5 cm (1 in) . . . or perhaps by up to 5 or 6 cm (2.0 to 2.4 in). . . .
Simply stated, here we have an event that expends so much energy it literally shortens the day, causes the earth to wobble and its surface to raise.
What's more, on March 28, we have another earthquake in the area of Northern Sumatra and Indonesia. According to the National Earthquake Information Center, U.S. Geological Survey, it weighs in at 8.7. Add to that, a total of six Major Earthquakes around the World in 2005 , all over a magnitude of 7.0, not counting the one in Islamabad in Pakistan, which we'll deal with in a moment.
Additionally, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution issues a news release last Jan. 13. titled "Major Caribbean Earthquakes and Tsunamis a Real Risk—Events rare, but scientists call for public awareness, warning system" . . . Paragraphs two tells us . . .
In a new study published December 24, 2004 in the Journal of Geophysical Research from the American Geophysical Union, geologists Uri ten Brink of the U.S. Geological Survey in Woods Hole and Jian Lin of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) report a heightened earthquake risk of the Septentrional fault zone, which cuts through the highly populated region of the Cibao valley in the Dominican Republic. In addition, they caution, the geologically active offshore Puerto Rico and Hispaniola trenches are capable of producing earthquakes of magnitude 7.5 and higher. The Indonesian earthquake on December 26, which generated a tsunami that killed (to date), an estimated 150,000 people, came from a fault of similar structure, but was a magnitude 9.0, much larger than the recorded quakes near the Puerto Rico Trench.
So, around the world, we seem to be having a wave of major earthquakes. In fact, let's return to Islamabad's catastrophe, as reported in the New York Times, Pakistan Quake Rocks South Asia; Over 18,000 Killed.
We find that the quake centered in the Hindu Kush Mountains of Pakistan, emitting tremors all across South Asia, actually killing more than 25,000 people. The quake weighed in at 7.6. Its epicenter, some 60 miles north of Pakistani's capital, caused some 20 "significant aftershocks" measuring between 5 and 6.2 magnitude. The tremors went as far east as New Delhi, the Indian capital, west to Kabul, Afghanistan's capital, the "biggest shock and awe to strike the country in a century," besides of course the US Military, and in some ways even more potent.
That brings me to my central concern of government involvement. That involvement covers also the recent spate of hurricanes, including the most disastrous Katrina, which has now drowned an entire American city, which itself looks like one of those ravaged third world cities which are part of or are near political hotspots . . .
Hurricane Katrina was the eleventh named tropical storm, fourth hurricane, third major hurricane, and first Category 5 hurricane of the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season. It first made landfall as a Category 1 hurricane just north of Miami, Florida on August 25, 2005, then again on August 29 along the Central Gulf Coast near New Orleans, Louisiana, as a Category 4 storm. Katrina resulted in breaches of the levee system that protected New Orleans from Lake Pontchartrain, and most of the city was subsequently flooded by the lake's waters. This and other major damage to the coastal regions of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama made Katrina the most destructive and costliest natural disaster in the history of the United States.
I suppose one could simply say Katrina was a matter of criminal negligence or an advanced case of political sleep-walking. Yet I include it in this larger picture of world environmental terror because terror is the feeling it instilled, especially given the human, physical and economic destruction. I submit as well the Guatemala Storm that swept through Central America on October 9, reported in the LA Times. Alex Renderos and Reed Johnson write . . .
GUATEMALA CITY—Rescue workers pulled bodies Saturday from Guatemalan villages devastated by mudslides, and other volunteers used hand tools, machetes and their bare hands to dig for more victims as the aftermath of Hurricane Stan continued to wreak havoc across northern Central America.
Guatemalan officials said 508 people had been killed and 337 others were missing in the country as a result of flooding and mudslides caused by the hurricane that roared across the region last week. More than 100 other deaths have been reported in Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica.
If all these examples still seem like a matter of happenstance, let me offer up this quote from Michel Chossudovsky in his Second Edition of America's "War on Terrorism," published by Global Research, 2005, page 95 . . .
"Since September 11, 2001, billions of dollars have been channeled towards developing new advanced weapons systems . . .
"The Strategic Defense Initiative ('Star Wars') not only includes the controversial "Missile Shield" . . . [but] instruments of weather and climatic warfare under the High Altitude Research Program (HAARP). The latter has the ability of destabilizing entire national economies through climatic manipulations, without the knowledge of the enemy, at minimal cost and without engaging military personnel and equipment as in a conventional war."
Chossudovsky is not alone in this sobering statement of fact.
US Weapons of Meteorological Mass Destruction
Dan Eden in an article, titled Weapons of Mass Destruction, talked about the HAARP facility located in Gakuna, Alaska, where patents bought from inventor Dr. Bernard Eastlund by huge defense contractor Raytheon are being experimented with, and used conceivably against world populations.
The HAARP Program is a US Air Force, Navy and University of Alaska funded investigation to "understand, simulate and control ionospheric processes that might alter the performance of communication and surveillance systems" as well as weather systems and those which actually can modify human behavior. The HAARP program was started in 1993 for a proposed twenty year series of experiments. Two paragraphs from Eden's article give you an idea of the forces being played with . . .
To date, there have been eleven other patents derived from Eastlund's original work. These patents describe the reflective alterations of the ionosphere for such uses as "nuclear scale explosions without radiation," "power-beaming systems," "over-the-horizon radar systems," and "nuclear missile detection and destruction systems." Further, the patents are now owned by Raytheon, a long-standing defense contractor, and can now be combined with other military patents and used for battlefield applications . . .
[They have the] " . . . ability to put unprecedented amounts of power in Earth's atmosphere at strategic locations and to maintain the power injection level particularly if random pulsing is employed, in a manner far more precise and better controlled than heretofore accomplished by the prior art, particularly by detonation of nuclear devices of various yields at various altitudes . . ."
A critical summary on Harp.Net of Dr. Nick Begich and Jeane Manning's book, Angelﾒs Donﾒt Play This HAARP tells us, "Eastlund's patents were originally controlled by ARCO Power Technologies Incorporated (APTI), a subsidiary of Atlantic Richfield Company, one of the biggest oil companies in the world. APTI was the contractor that built the HAARP facility. ARCO sold this subsidiary, the patents and the second phase construction contract to E-Systems in June 1994.
"E-Systems is one of the biggest intelligence contractors in the world–doing work for the CIA, defense intelligence organizations and others. And 1.8 billion of their annual sales are to these organizations, with $800 million for black projects–projects so secret that even the United States Congress isn't told how the money is being spent.
"E-Systems was bought out by Raytheon, again one of the largest defense contractors in the world. . . . The twelve patents . . . are the backbone of the HAARP project and are now buried among thousands of others held in the name of Raytheon . . ."
A statement I find most relevant in this HAARP report is . . .
Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device.
. . . Molecular modifications of the atmosphere can take place so that . . . environmental effects can be achieved. Besides actually changing the molecular composition of an atmospheric region, a particular molecule or molecules can be chosen for increased presence. For example, ozone, nitrogen, etc., concentrations in the atmosphere could be artificially increased.
Remembering that this work began in 1994, consider these statements from the article . . .
"Begich and Manning brought to light government documents indicating that the military has weather-control technology. When HAARP is eventually built to its full power level, it could create weather effects over entire hemispheres. If one government experiments with the world's weather patterns, what is done in one place will impact everyone else on the planet. Angels Don't Play This HAARP explains a principle behind some of Nikola Tesla's inventions—resonance—which affect planetary systems."
Nikola Tesla (1865ﾗ1943), the so called "mad genius" or "wild man" of electronics was convinced he could develop enough electric power "to split the earth like an apple." Experimenting for a wealthy employer in the electric business in Colorado Springs, Tesla managed to black out the entire city and set the power generator on fire. The roar was heard for more than ten miles. Yet he moved on to bigger and more successful ideas, like missiles, particle beam weaponry, satellites, nuclear fission, and robots at the turn of the 20th century.
Dr. Bernard Eastland based his work on Tesla's principles as Begich and Manning discovered. Their observations are related in the Angels' article, in the section called "Weather Control" . . .
Avalanches of energy dislodged by such radio waves could hit us hard. Their work suggests that technicians could control global weather by sending relatively small 'signals' into the Van Allen belts (radiation belts around Earth). Thus Tesla's resonance effects can control enormous energies by tiny triggering signals.
The Begich/ Manning book asks whether that knowledge will be used by war-oriented or biosphere-oriented scientists.
The military has had about twenty years to work on weather warfare methods, which it euphemistically calls weather modification. For example, rainmaking technology was taken for a few test rides in Vietnam. The U.S. Department of Defense sampled lightning and hurricane manipulation studies in Project Skyfire and Project Stormfury. And they looked at some complicated technologies that would give big effects.
Angels Don't Play This HAARP cites an expert who says the military studied both lasers and chemicals which they figured could damage the ozone layer over an enemy. Looking at ways to cause earthquakes, as well as to detect them, was part of the project named Prime Argus, decades ago. The money for that came from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA, now under the acronym ARPA.) In 1994 the Air Force revealed its Spacecast 2020 master plan which includes weather control. Scientists have experimented with weather control since the 1940's, but Spacecast 2020 noted that "using environmental modification techniques to destroy, damage or injure another state are prohibited." Having said that, the Air Force claimed that advances in technology "compels a reexamination of this sensitive and potentially risky topic."
Lest you think only Chossudovsky, Eden or Begich and Manning are concerned with HAARP and weather control, consider scientist Dr. Rosalie Bertell, writing in her Background of the HAARP Project:
Poker Flat Rocket Launch (1968 to Present)
The Poker Flat Research Range is located about 50 km North of Fairbanks, Alaska, and it was established in 1968. It is operated by the Geophysical Institute with the University of Alaska Fairbanks, under NASA contract. About 250 major rocket launches have taken place from this site, and in 1994, a 16-meter long rocket was launched to help NASA "understand chemical reactions in the atmosphere associated with global climate change."
Similar experiments, but using Chemical Release Modules (CRM), have been launched from Churchill, Manitoba. In 1980, Brian Whelan's "Project Waterhole" disrupted an aurora borealis, bringing it to a temporary halt. In February 1983, the chemical released into the ionosphere caused an aurora borealis over Churchill. In March 1989, two Black Brant X's and two Nike Orion rockets were launched over Canada, releasing barium at high altitudes and creating artificial clouds. These Churchill artificial clouds were observed from as far away as Los Alamos, New Mexico.
If that sounds like a future you don't want on your doorstep today, consider the opening paragraphs of Dr. Nick Begich's Star Wars, Star Trek and Killing Politely, linked here in full . . .
Over the last several years Earthpulse has been investigating the latest developments in technology. We explore subjects related to improving the human condition and expose projects which we believe are risky and unnecessary. This essay is about some of the science being developed and contemplated by military planners and others which could profoundly affect our lives. The intent of this essay is to focus discussion on these new systems by bringing them into the light of day.
Is it possible to trigger earthquakes, volcanic eruptions or weather changes by man-made activities? Is it possible to create and direct balls of energy at lightning speeds, to destroy an enemy? Is it possible to manipulate the behavior, and even the memories, of people using specialized technologies? The United States military and others believe that this is the case. Many of these systems are well on their way to being used in the battlefield.
If you believe, as I and others do, that we've gone past the realm of probability into the realm of a dangerous reality, especially given the frequency of catastrophic events, isn't it time to send our own beam of energy to the US government, and demand a full investigation into the activities of HAARP, in particular the manipulation of hurricanes and earthquakes? This kind of activity is another form of terror we live with, because it seems like it can strike anywhere, anytime, in the guise of natural event.
Perhaps it is just Mother Nature kicking up her heels, perhaps not. In either case, a return to reality is called for in these surreal days. The simple presence of HAARP is a form of psychological terror, threatening not just the weather, but the well-being of man and survival of the planet. And that's something you'll never hear from your media weatherman.
Eric, da ting with all this unusual phenomena, is that we are left still asking questions;
5.7 quake hits Iran...
66 dead?
330 villages damaged...
at 33 degrees lat;
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4.7 2006/03/31 01:31:33 33.712 48.578 86.3 WESTERN IRAN
5.7 2006/03/31 01:17:02 33.583 48.800 10.0 WESTERN IRAN
4.7 2006/03/30 16:17:06 33.523 48.731 10.0 WESTERN IRAN
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As ya know, I've studied the 3 linkages for a while now...
Dya tink the terrorists in the dubya $hrub$ camp are sending messages... numerologically?
I know, 'coincidence', bit like those chemtrails Eric...
Then 44 drowning in "another" tourist cruise incident... Saudia Arabia...
tornadoes touching down in some pretty severe weather in USA...
been raining in Hawaii for two months straight...
911 calls on 9/11
flight 93
9 men and 3 women jurors on the Masuai trial... a Mexican imigrant convert...
drawing out the bigger picture, and this F-SHOD crew don't need trails in the sky to paint...
How's it going Latter_days_aint, any errrm, new light there sah? :)
ericswan said;
And now for yet a different perspective on the not to distant Yellowstone Park disaster..
Sunking..stop the presses..LOL
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index895.htm
xekxkduk
Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:09:54 PM
Different but equally heavy outcomes. Just replace (or add to) the scalar element and we could be in for a very messy situation.
Thanks Bohemia, I hope they really apply those principles and not merely use them as a public pacifier. Real data to people like us would be a total step in the right direction. After all these years, can they really do it? I hope so.
sk,
Looks like you were up late policing the grounds! :)
Hey eric,
Nice tie in on the eq haarp post. I have always wondered, how or what generates the power for the array? I don't think they pull it from the grid. Are they nook or what? I don't believe we have ever seen that addressed. Lots of doom and gloom in that article. Thanks es.
Here is the outlook for ssl4000g's area;
Friday's Weather
Looks like a UV rate of 6 and hi of 73F. Already this am, there are dispersed trails and a slight haze over the area. An unusually warm March day for sure.
Wayne
87'ish here, deep blue skies and a few fluffy white clouds...
...hardly any breez...
9:11 AM
gorgeous day :D
marnin Wayne...
Russian newspaper PRAVDA say Condi Rice have sexual problems ! (You not see THIS kind of analysis in American paper)
Condi, OH BABY!, Monkey See solve ALL your problems!
http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/11-01-2006/9488-condoleezza-0
George Walker, GW's great-grandfather, set up the takeover of the Hamburg-America Line, a cover for I.G. Farben's Nazi espionage unit in the United States. In Germany, I.G. Farben was most famous for putting the gas in gas chambers; it was the producer of Zyklon B and other gasses used on victims of the Holocaust. The Bush family was not unaware of the nature of their investment partners. They hired Allen Dulles, the future head of the CIA, to hide the funds they were making from Nazi investments and the funds they were sending to Nazi Germany, rather than divest. It was only in 1942, when the government seized Union Banking Company assets under the Trading With The Enemy Act, that George Walker and Prescott Bush stopped pumping money into Hitler's regime. (1)
Prescott Bush, the president's grandfather. According to classified documents from Dutch intelligence and US government archives, President George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush made considerable profits off Auschwitz slave labor. In fact, President Bush himself is an heir to these profits from the holocaust which were placed in a blind trust in 1980 by his father, former president George Herbert Walker Bush. (2) On the 20th of October, the government commenced action against the company under the trading with the enemy act. (3) After the seizures in late 1942 of five U.S. enterprises he managed on behalf of Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen failed to divest himself of more than a dozen "enemy national" relationships that continued until as late as 1951, newly-discovered U.S. government documents reveal. (4) In 1952, Prescott Bush was elected to the U.S. Senate, with no press accounts about his well-concealed Nazi past.(5)
George Herbert Walker Bush, the presidents father. Bush, as director of the CIA, had funneled enormous amounts of cash to drug runners including Manuel Noriega and helped in the destabilization of Argentina. Bush utilized his own connections to help fund drug runners from Laos to Panama. Most shocking was the so-called "cocaine coup" in Bolivia in June 1980, masterminded by fugitive Nazi Klaus Barbie, "The Butcher Of Lyons." Barbie, who had been previously secreted in Latin America by the CIA, began working closely with the Argentines and used drug money to finance a neo-Nazi cabal, one that succeeded in overthrowing the government. The troops swept through the capital wearing Nazi armbands, according to former DEA agent Mike Levine. George H.W. Bush later facilitated the Iran-contra affair, employing many of the same methods: secretly selling Central American cocaine in America and weapons to Iran while using the profits to fund the contras and to overthrow democratically elected socialists in Central America.(6) as the head of the CIA and later as Vice President, toppled democratically elected regimes in South and Central America and began propping up a dictator by the name of Saddam Hussein in Iraq. Although forbidden by congress to do so, he continued to sell chemical and biological weapons to Saddam even after he used them on villages of innocent civilians. A decade later The United States had to go to war against him and the Bush family again, made millions from it.
Jonathan J. Bush, the Presidents uncle. Jonathan Bush's "Pioneer Profile" in "George W. Bush's $100,000 Club" cites him as the "head" of the Riggs Investment Management Co.; "Bush’s uncle Jonathan ... founded its subsidiary, J. Bush & Co., of which he is chair. He also is an ex-chair of the New York Republican State Finance Committee. Bush credits the investors sent his way by this banker uncle as a key to his 'success' in the Texas oil industry in the early ‘80s." (17)
Jonathan J. Bush, is a top executive at Riggs Bank, which this week agreed to pay a record $25 million in civil fines for violations of law intended to thwart money laundering. Jonathan Bush, who is a major fundraiser for his nephew, was appointed in 2000 to run Riggs Investment Management Co. His association with Riggs began when he headed J. Bush & Co., a New Haven, Conn., company he created in 1970 and built to offer advice on money management. (18)
According to the 5/14/04 New York Times, Federal regulators fined the Riggs National Corporation, the parent company of Riggs Bank, $25 million yesterday for "failing to report suspicious activity, the largest penalty ever assessed against a domestic bank in connection with money laundering. The fine stems from Riggs's failure over at least the last two years to actively monitor suspect financial transfers through Saudi Arabian accounts held by the bank." The 5/14/04 Wall Street Journal reported that of particular concern, Riggs failed to monitor "tens of millions of dollars in cash withdrawals from accounts related to the Saudi Arabian embassy," including "suspicious incidents involving dozens of sequentially numbered cashier's checks and international drafts written by Saudi officials, including Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar bin Sultan." According to the 4/18/04 Washington Post, Saudi Prince Bandar's wife, Princess Haifa al-Faisal, "may have used a Riggs account to donate money to a charity that then gave some of it to the Sept. 11 terrorists."
(...)
According to the nonprofit Texans for Public Justice, Jonathan Bush is the President and CEO of Riggs Investment Management - a major arm of Riggs Bank. He is also the uncle of President George W. Bush. The President "credits the investors sent his way by this banker uncle as a key to his 'success' in the Texas oil industry in the early '80s." According to Public Citizen, the uncle Jonathan was a Bush Pioneer, having raised more than $100,000 for his nephew in 2000.(19)
Neil Bush, the president's brother. Central player of the 1980'ssavings and loan scandal, he ran a savings and loan into the ground while shoveling millions of its taxpayer-backed dollars into the pockets of two deadbeat partners. Neil served as a director of Silverado Banking, Savings and Loan in Denver, Colorado, from 1985 until 1988. During that time, the now-dead thrift made over $200 million in loans to Neil's two partners in JNB Exploration, Neil's abysmally unsuccessful oil company. Federal regulators determined that, while Silverado was pumping loans to Neil's two associates, Neil was completely dependent on the two men for his income. The failure of Silverado -- its closure delayed until after the 1988 election -- cost taxpayers about $1 billion. After Silverado failed, Neil started a new oil company, Apex Energy. This time, his money came from a $2.35 million loan through a Small Business Administration program. When news of this reached the press in March 1991, the SBA discovered that the companies through which the loan was approved were technically insolvent, and it gave them up to thirty months to "self-liquidate." This meant that Apex would have to repay its SBA-guaranteed loans. Neil took this as his cue to move on, and he left Apex -- and its debts -- for others to worry about. (7) update: Neil Bush made $171,370 in one day. The fact that he was a former consultant to the company whose stock he dumped is just a coincidence
Marvin Bush, the president's brother was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport and United Airlines, according to public records. The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for years to the Bush family. The security company, formerly named Securacom and now named Stratesec, is in Sterling, Va.. Its CEO, Barry McDaniel, said the company had a ``completion contract" to handle some of the security at the World Trade Center ``up to the day the buildings fell down." The suite in which Marvin Bush was annually re-elected, according to public records, is located in the Watergate in space leased to the Saudi government. The company now holds shareholder meetings in space leased by the Kuwaiti government there.(8) (9) more
Jeb Bush, the president's brother. After graduating from The University of Texas, Jeb Bush served a short apprenticeship at the Venezuelan branch of Texas Commerce Bank in Caracas before settling in Miami, in 1980, to work on his father's unsuccessful primary bid against Ronald Reagan. Shortly after arriving in Miami, Jeb was hired by Cuban-American developer Armando Codina to work at his Miami development company as an agent leasing office space. A couple of years later, Jeb and Codina became business partners, and in 1985 they purchased an office building in a deal partly financed by a savings and loan that later failed.The $4.56 million loan, from Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, Florida, was granted in such a way that neither Codina's nor Bush's name appeared on the loan papers as the borrowers. A third man, J. Edward Houston, borrowed the $4.56 million from Broward and then re-lent it to the Bush partnership. When federal regulators closed Broward Savings in 1988, they found the loan, which had been secured by the Bush partnership, in default. As Jeb's father was finishing his second term as vice-president and running for the presidency, federal regulators had two options: to get Jeb Bush and his partner to repay the loan, or to foreclose on their office building. But regulators came up with a third solution. After reappraising the building, regulators decided it wasn't worth as much as was owed for it. The regulators reduced the amount owed by Bush and his partner from $4.56 million to just $500,000. The pair paid that amount and were allowed to keep their office building. Taxpayers picked up the tab for the unpaid $4 million. (10)
He also rigged an election that you may have heard about. Thousands of eligible voters were disallowed the right to vote in predominantly democratic regions. Between May 1999 and Election Day 2000, two Florida secretaries of state - Sandra Mortham and Katherine Harris, both protégées of Governor Jeb Bush- ordered 57,700 "ex-felons," who are prohibited from voting by state law, to be removed from voter rolls. (In the thirty-five states where former felons can vote, roughly 90 percent vote Democratic.) A company now owned by ChoicePoint of Atlanta, was paid $4.3 million for its work, replacing a firm that charged $5,700 per year for the same service.Two of these "scrub lists," as officials called them, were distributed to counties in the months before the election with orders to remove the voters named. Together the lists comprised nearly 1 percent of Florida?s electorate and nearly 3 percent of its African-American voters. Neither DBT nor the state conducted any further research to verify the matches. DBT, which frequently is hired by the F.B.I. to conduct manhunts, originally proposed using address histories and financial records to confirm the names, but the state declined the cross-checks. (11)
George W. Bush, second appointed president of the United States.
• 1979-83: Fifty Bush family investors and friends, led by uncle Jonathan, a New York Republican Party official and an investment manager, fork over $4.7 million to set up young Bush in a company called Arbusto. It's a flop, and in 1982 gets a new name: Bush Exploration.
• 1984: Spectrum 7 Corporation, an Ohio oil exploration outfit owned by Dubya's Yalie pal William DeWitt Jr., buys out Bush Exploration, setting up young Bush as CEO at $75,000 a year and giving him 1.1 million shares of the firm's stock. Another flop. The company's fortunes soon sink, with $400,000 in losses and a debt of $3 million.
• 1986: In the nick of time, Bush and partners merge the failing Spectrum with Harken Oil, a Dallas exploration company, with a $2 million stock purchase. Bush puts up about $500,000 and gets a $120,000 annual consulting fee along with $131,250 in stock options. Harken is a small outfit, looking for oil opportunities within the U.S. Then out of the blue comes Harvard Management Corporation, an investment adviser for Harvard University's endowment portfolio. It pumps millions into the venture.
• 1990: Although Harken has no international expertise, it gets the attention of the Bahrain National Oil Company, which unexpectedly appears on the scene and bypasses big oil's Amoco and Chevron to sign a production agreement with the little Texas concern. The contract grants Harken exclusive rights to what seems to be a promising offshore area squeezed between two productive tracts owned by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The Wall Street Journal speculates Bahrain was trying to cozy up to Daddy Bush, who was plotting an assault on Iraq after Saddam Hussein seized Kuwait.
Bass Enterprises Production Company finances the Bahrain drilling with $25 million, and Harvard Management raises its investment. A couple of members of the Fort Worth Bass family have places on Team 100, an elite business group contributing to the Republican National Committee.
In June, Harken drills two dry holes in Bahrain. The future looks bleak. Dubya dumps two-thirds of his Harken holdings (212,140 shares), for $848,560. He uses some of this money to buy into the Texas Rangers baseball club. This is a lot of stock to dump on the market all at once, and brokers say it was purchased by an unnamed institutional investor.
That August, Harken posts a loss of $23 million.
• January 1991: Daddy Bush attacks Iraq.
• February 1991: Dubya, as the official in charge at Harken, reports his big stock sale to the SEC—eight months late.
• April 1991: The SEC begins an investigation into Harken dealings. Chairman Richard Breeden, who had been appointed by the senior Bush and served him as an economic policy adviser, hails from Baker & Botts, a big Texas oil law firm where he was a partner. Inside the SEC, James Doty, general counsel and the official in charge of any litigation that might come out of the Harken investigation, is another alumnus of Baker & Botts. And as a private attorney, before joining the government, Doty represented the younger Bush in matters related to Dubya's ownership of the Rangers.
• 1993: The SEC ends its Harken investigation following perfunctory interviews.
The good people of Baker & Botts continued looking out for Shrub. Since 1993, Breeden, Doty, and other lawyers there have given him $182,050 for his various political campaigns, making the firm one of his biggest supporters.(12)
Upon appointment as president, Bush appoints 6 Iran-contra defendants to his staff, (13) fills the upper levels of the White house and pentagon with senior members of the PNAC (14) including his speech writer, chief advisor, secretary of defense, and vice president. Uses the terrorist attacks of 9-11 (16) to illegally invade and occupy Iraq under the false pretense of imminent threat (15) and reaps billions for Cheney's Halliburton, Rumsfeld's Bechtel, and his own family's Carlyle group.
(1) http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id195/pg1/
(2) http://www.clamormagazine.org/features/issue14.3_feature.html
(3) http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3713.htm
(4) http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=39&contentid=997
(5) http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=39&contentid=963&page=2
(6) http://www.oldamericancentury.org/bushcontra.htm
(7) http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1992/09/bushboys.html
(8) http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm
(9) http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Marvin_Bush
(10) http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/BushFV.html#p2
(11) http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=122&row=1
(12) http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0228/ridgeway.php
(13) http://www.blythe.org/nytransfer-subs/Central_America/Iran-Contra_Felons_Get_Good_Jobs_from_Bush
(14) http://www.oldamericancentury.org/pnac.htm
(15) http://babelogue.citypages.com:8080/sperry/stories/storyReader$526
(16) http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/
(17) http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Jonathan_Bush
(18) http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A28396-2004May14?language=printer
(19) http://www.davidsirota.com/2004/05/bushs-uncle-is-executive-at-bank-fined.html
Gee, Jas...no wind? Whatever will you do today? LOL! Good to see you!
Wayne,
sk,
Looks like you were up late policing the grounds! :)
The fargin' isholes! ;)
Gen'l Forrest,
Read you loud and clear! Also, Never to Forgive, Never to Forget!
Should we start up a paypal fund-raising account to get all of us to some kind of meet ?
I remember someone on TEM suggesting a sailing ship be hired, etc.
Jas...
> Dya tink the terrorists in the dubya $hrub$ camp are sending messages... numerologically?
I'm of the mind, that it's an interference pattern produced in an interaction between the
mind and the world...I could be horribly wrong though...:-} Maybe it's possible to pick up
patterns in systems altered from their natural state ? Does Bush doodle little connected
numbers on his pad when no-one is looking ? Does he have a numerological advisor like Blair and his wife have a new age assistant ?
unipax...
I did this Interplanetary Day After Tommorow image, which TEM used in an article (can't
find the damn thing at the mo)...
http://www.humanity.free-online.co.uk/502B.htm
> Well, I guess that means Venezuela has slipped over to the dark side and become a terrorist
> state, cuz Bush said "You're with us or you're with the terrorists.
Well....Unipax...from what I'm beginning to understand, the altered Monroe Doctrine actually
allows for 'illegal' (in international law) military action. Does this not conflict
with The International Criminal Court and 'international law' ? Why is no one talking about
this ? Maybe I should hang out in some international law groups.
ericswan...
From the whatdoesitmean.com link.
> "But perhaps to potentially the greatest catastrophe this Massive Explosion could cause would
> be the sacrificing of the State of California..."
Reminds me of a Propellerhead track "What would you like to give us as a souvenier of our
stay?".......
..........
......."Take California".
> "over-the-horizon radar systems,"
I've got a recording of 'the woodpecker' on short-wave. Sounds very strange, and I have been
told by hams that it is 'some kind of technology'. In fact they play games with it...broadcasting
on it's channel...it will then hop to another frequency 8-? I think I mentioned this on the TEM
blog.
DJBarney
Even better, get individual sponsorship (to a charity of your choice) and start up one
of those "see if you can get to the destination for 'free'" kind of things, right ?
DJBarney
Do we read anything into Cancun numbers with trireme mounting the pyramid hours after an eclipse?
Anonymous,
Good article on Bush family, even though you will probably get your nuts in the guillotine for making it too long.
I would add that when Dubya was in the oil business, there was a story going around the city of Odessa, Texas that George W. Bush couldn't find a quart of oil in a seven-eleven. That means he wasn't really in the business of oil but rather collecting money from investors and walking away from his phony companies. The investors, being loyal Bush subjects, would simply write it off as a tax loss in the hope of future favors from Daddy Bush or when W got further up the food chain.
LOL, lurker v!
Yes....ericswan/anonymous. I've asked nicely enough to limit the size of the post and to use the links. I'll leave the Bush article, cuz I disagree with Bush and the way he stands for what he stands for, and I'll leave the weather piece, eric, since it is 'on topic'...but that's it! Any more long posts go to the bit bucket! If I like the piece, it gets dumped in the previous blog...if I don't like it, it's garbage.
Link and dialog...link and dialog.
Sunking..It amazes me that we as a "research group" never found the weather link (posted October 2005)prior to this. I guess my problem is "fair use" and just exactly what will be considered too long. Keep in mind that the future of this planet is in your hands.
eric,
When you question whether an article is 'too long', imgaine that you are on dial up...then act accordingly. Some of our readers are, alas, on dialup, so let's have some mercy on them. Some of these dial-uppers are folk we know and love and talk to here...others may not participate, but are only readers...but 'Crewe' nevertheless.
That is the only reason I a concerned about length of these copy/paste pieces.
Content is another matter entirely.
Link to the article, and tell us what you think about it or what you deem it's importance is.
Eric,
I am somewhat confused when you say that we as a research group never found the WX link until 10/05. Can you clarify that statement and be more descriptive about the 'link' you refer to?
SunKing, not larfin, no breeze :/
bro, it's a kicker, all dat blue sea and can only go Scuba diving or snorkelling...
sigh...
no ripping ta'day...
DjB, I hadn't looked at it like dat...
Blair a numerological adviser.
Of course, he's only a 32nd degree (York rite, 32nd is the highest it will go in the UK).
so he would be 1 degree from bush's 33...
eejits :)
good insight tho...
and...
what would the goverment do with 950 sachets of Cocaine;
"
Blast as Kenya burns cocaine haul
The more than 950 cocaine sachets will take over eight hours to destroy An incinerator, where one of Africa's biggest hauls of narcotics is being burnt in Kenya, has exploded, delaying the process, police say.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4863736.stm
"
An explosion at a cocain incineration.
hi hi hi...
bet those that had the 1 hour of white rain, said they didn't mind, in fact they were hoping for more...
mana from heaven... lol...
still, da point is, didn't coca-cola used to have REAL Cocaine in their fizzy adcidic multipurpose asphalt cleaning beverage?
and people moan about Cannabis...
tek an e-joint and have a good virtual toke up...
...although da spliffs here are real :D
hi hi hi...
SunKing, not larfin, no breeze :/
bro, it's a kicker, all dat blue sea and can only go Scuba diving or snorkelling...
sigh...
no ripping ta'day...
DjB, I hadn't looked at it like dat...
Blair a numerological adviser.
Of course, he's only a 32nd degree (York rite, 32nd is the highest it will go in the UK).
so he would be 1 degree from bush's 33...
eejits :)
good insight tho...
and...
what would the goverment do with 950 sachets of Cocaine;
"
Blast as Kenya burns cocaine haul
The more than 950 cocaine sachets will take over eight hours to destroy An incinerator, where one of Africa's biggest hauls of narcotics is being burnt in Kenya, has exploded, delaying the process, police say.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4863736.stm
"
An explosion at a cocain incineration.
hi hi hi...
bet those that had the 1 hour of white rain, said they didn't mind, in fact they were hoping for more...
mana from heaven... lol...
still, da point is, didn't coca-cola used to have REAL Cocaine in their fizzy adcidic multipurpose asphalt cleaning beverage?
and people moan about Cannabis...
tek an e-joint and have a good virtual toke up...
...although da spliffs here are real :D
hi hi hi...
Another note:
There are quite a few people that visit here regularly that do not participate. Some are intimidated by either our seeming vast array of knowledge or brainpower (ahem!) or perhaps by aggression(?), and because of this hesitate to join in. I ask the 'crewe' to consider this in all actions and statements (i.e. what you do and say affects others...and 'they' ARE watching).
To those hesitant to join in, for wahtever reason...cast those reasons aside. There is a vast array of talents and brains here...but none of us so great that we would not welcome you here with us. I would like to see you participate.
Also, there are many 'regulars' who visit from countries outside of the US. Some have communicated with me. I also urge you to feel free and join in. Don't worry about your English or anything else....join in! No person currently participating is a perfect communicator, we use bad grammar, make spelling mistakes...and all that on top of crazed, warped logic. What harm can YOU do here? Please be at home here.
Welcome all! :)
Well folks, I am all ranted out on this issue, so please read the article below on the illegal invasion. Maybe you will all sit up and take notice when the little burro opens his mouth and says:
"We have an aging white America ... They are dying ...We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas, Arlington and founder of the La Raza Unida political party
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd180.htm
p.s., please try to read the article and get past the picture of the red-head.
General Forrest, you are summoned to active duty !
Nice red-head, lurker.
SO...I agree...enfore the existing laws! The problem IS the employers who hire illegals to increasae the bottom line.
But what we gonna do with those already here?
Si, Crypto...el Gringo eres tu, cabron!
Here is an audio clip from WJGR, which I talked of yesterday. This guy is the guy that the current US leaders are listening to. Be worried!
About 3/4 of an hour thru the interview, I ("Steve from Fleming Island") get in with a stumbling but valid question (realize I'm nervous and driving at the same time) which is somewhat mis-directed by David Allen and then responded to by this Nazi with the standard Bushisms. Listen to this fellow curriculum vitae during the intro, then listen to what this guy says.
http://www.thedavidallenshow.com/audio/interview_with_tom_barnett_on_march_24_2006_the_pentqagons_new_map
lurker v said:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd180.htm
p.s., please try to read the article and get past the picture of the red-head.
--------
good to have you aboard lurker v. the stash in on the G-deck, if no one's told you yet :)
Ms T,
the article sums up what i wanted to respond to your earlier post.
It starts with the low-paying jobs. Soon, every sector will be affected, even though there are qualified citizens who can do the job. Devvy is a victim of this.
All in the name of "keeping our national competitiveness", while ordinary citizens with MBAs, MSc Eng, etc get to work at MacD's .
It has already happened in Singapore. why ? because of SHEEPLE and absolute control of media. Heck, we're North Korea with shopping malls, that's all.
crypto said:
At the end of WWII, when the US targeted 300 corporations for dismantling in Japan & West Germany - was that supposed to be retributive ? Or regenerative ?
It was supposed to be retributive - the people who dominate geo-politics also dominate financially. Individually, dismantling the top 300 US corporations would be a fate worse the death ... but guess what happened in Japan and West Germany ... funny (and suspicious)
thanks for the heads-up crypto. this tid-bit is news to me.
WTF?
Mitsubishi, Matsushita, Kawasaki, Hitachi, and Nakajima were spared, weren't they?
The Zaibatsu must be very grateful. Perhaps the first "Coalition of the Grateful". WTF!
Sunking said...
But what we gonna do with those already here?
I myself have utilized the old rule
"It's easier to get forgiveness than permission". I suppose you have heard that one ?
So the basic question is: Are we going to fall for it so we don't look like bad guys ?
As far as the individual I quoted above, he obviously needs to be deported. The same goes for those who sport foreign flags in our streets. Our government has no problem deporting aging white male CITIZENS of European origin even on the SUSPICION that they had been Nazis in WW2. So why are they scared to deal with guys like this ?
I am not totally opposed to some system that would consider the merits of individuals on a case by case basis, even though that might entail some bureaucracy. If they can show they behaved as though they were above average good citizens, maybe we cut them a deal and let them wait in Mexico while their paperwork is placed on a little faster track.
But, the problem of why they are all coming here needs to be dealt with. Why is it that a country that directly borders the richest and most free in the World can be so poor and corrupt? It must be because TPTB want it that way. And that is ultimately connected to the illegal hiring problem. When we cut off the main supply of low-wage labor, the culprits will be fasting and they will whine and complain. If we stick to our guns though, they will be forced to hire American labor at a decent wage.
> "The cycle will also begin a year later than expected, in late 2007 or early 2008, and
> peak around 2012, said Mausumi Dikpati of the National Center for Atmospheric Research
> in Boulder, Colorado."
Source
?->
DJBarney
Lurker V said...
..... so please read the article below on the illegal invasion.
"We have an aging white America ... They are dying ...We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas, Arlington and founder of the La Raza Unida political party
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd180.htm
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Probably this divisive racism is being allowed and encouraged by the usual suspects as detailed in the following which SK saved. All the dirt on the cia;
Origins of the Overclass:
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Overclass.htm
I could be remembering it wrong - but I thought only Mitsui and Mitsubishi were never dissolved, however, there were probably others because 80 companies 'reconstituted' themselves.
I guess my point was cause & effect. The Iraq War is a military strategy because the people with control over the economic levers are out of economic ideas. Want to know who is behind the War ? Follow the money and cross-reference with the resume's of Dubya, his CIA Daddy and VP Satan - the first is, by all accounts just plain STUPID, while the latter two are the embodiment of conspiracy. Americans who own oil are getting richer and everyone else is either getting poorer and losing children.
Germany - they knew Hitler was the foster child of hyper-inflation. They wanted Germans to go from Nazism to NATOism and tried to gear the German economy to a world system. With Japan, they deliberately tried to achieve economic stagnation - and it backfired. I guess my point being, that, if the Marshall Plan had worked according to plan, Britain, who got twice as much money as West Germany, would have been the Economic Miracle of the post war Era. Concentration of ownership is the CAUSE of Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan and (dare I say) Imperial America ... but Western Superiority is in-tact as long as Faux News only tracks the kill ratio (net body count).
Barney,
Nice work, that image you made about solar system "heating" up.
http://www.humanity.free-online.co.uk/502B.htm
Hi all,
Lots of spraying here for the past 3 days. Non-stop even overnight. The cloud cover is pretty thick but the sun is getting through.
After reading 'Deep Shield's" take I don't buy it. It's my opinion that this is flat out weather control and nothing else. If it were a shield it would be dispersed as evenly as possible I would assume. It doesn't appear that way. Why no spraying on perfect cloudless days when the UV index is the highest? Just more BS. Why the bill to legalise playing with the weather? As an aside since the spraying has been intense here I've had serious sinus problems. It seems to be a couple days after they start intense spraying. Dull headache, congestion etc. It's getting old.
Has anyone else noticed a pattern like this in their area? Here in the Northeast it seems one month is warmer than normal by quite a bit and the next near normal or colder than normal. Also big storms approach and would normally bring rain, but peter out or the track changes and it passes by with just a few showers. As Scott Stevens says there is now no normal weather. I have to agree. The question is how do we stop this craziness?
Wayne,
You're south of me and we usually have the same type of weather but I think the pattern has changed of late. We had no trails for a few weeks and now it has gotten out of control. Have you noticed the same pattern?
Mac
Yeah, unipax, I can make images like that, and yet I have a severe cash flow problem
here. I get the feeling 'the ends' hav'nt joined up yet ! :-/
DJBarney
sk,
BRAVO !
You mounted a valiant charge against that NWO stooge on the David Allen radio show.
Predictable response.
Fall back, regroup. Talk to David Allen, make him view a 911 video like 'loose change' or 'reopen911'.
These radio stooges are in need of education.
SunKing said...
Another note:
There are quite a few people that visit here regularly that do not participate. Some are intimidated by either our seeming vast array of knowledge or brainpower (ahem!) or perhaps by aggression(?), and because of this hesitate to join in. I ask the 'crewe' to consider this in all actions and statements (i.e. what you do and say affects others...and 'they' ARE watching).
To those hesitant to join in, for wahtever reason...cast those reasons aside. There is a vast array of talents and brains here...but none of us so great that we would not welcome you here with us. I would like to see you participate.
Dear Lurkers, if you didnt already know:
most of us are in our 40s, quite a few in their 50s;
we are all pot-heads, and we post only after our daily joints;
we all have secret stashes of Neil Diamond records;
we all believe in Aliens and UFOs and the Annunakis;
we all believe in Santa and the reality is he carries a sack of the Holy Weed;
"There is a vast array of talents and brains here"
seriously folks "out there", you bring with you your own little jig-saw piece. you WILL make the picture a more interesting for ALL.
crypto, re: the "spared" Japanese companies during WW2. I made an elimination from the listing here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Secret_and_Special_Weapons
Dear All, anyone for Japanese Nukes and and German Tesla-type weapons and UFOs?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Secret_and_Special_Weapons
They should have SHUT DOWN Mitsubishi after the war. But being what they are, TPTB must have absorbed that tech into Black Ops like Operation Paperclip.
Award winning teacher says "People in my business want professionals to fight and die, and to fight over there and not in the streets of America."
A teacher who justifies bloodshed for purely economic reasons.
Everyone should have a listen to
http://www.thedavidallenshow.com/audio/interview_with_tom_barnett_on_march_24_2006_the_pentqagons_new_map
SK comes on at the 25:00 minute.
I have to say this: the man is truthful. At least to himself.
He didnt answer SK or the other caller directly. But the response is clear.
"They are jealous of our freedoms."
Story of mega-lightning strike on shuttle Columbia will not die!
hihihihihi!
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/00current.htm
The subjects change fast here....
IMHO, the immigration debate, global corp. greed, weather control, privacy invasion are all the same gig. The elites at the top controlling everything and the rest of us at the bottom. If you keep people overwhelmed and off balance they just run around chasing thier tail. The average person is so busy working and trying to keep thier own life under control, they can't pay attention to the rest of this crap. When I talk to friends about this stuff the eyes glaze over and they just say there is nothing they can do about it. Thier big concern is making enough to live and that is more than enough to have to deal with.
The whole system is broken and until it hits that 'tipping point' where people have no food or gas or whatever the people at the top will get away with what they are doing. Notice how the immigrants banded together to protest getting deported? That is what has to happen with the everyday American before anything changes.
end of rant
Mac
Mitsubishi made the Japanese Zero airplane ... and I've been wondering about corporations NEEDING secret societies - and Japan had both, with an Imperial Plan. The Weather Wars guy alleged that the YAKUZA (from Japan) had directed the Hurricanes towards New Orleans. Has anyone spent any time in the 'snake pit' to sort out the pecking order ?
Is the Green Dragon Society like Volksmagic & Freemasonry ?
Then the Yakuza is like Rune Magic (Nazis) and Shriners (US-UK)?
OSOTP,
LOL! and how spot on yo;u are in your "Dear Lurkers" missive. He's RIGHT folks! (except I haven't had any weed for Waaaaaaaaay to long, but 20 years of smoking it left a permenantly open mind!) Thanks for that, O!
Uni,
See how that was pulled off? Dodged my question like a tspeeding bullet. After the show ended, I called the station back and asked to speak to David of the air, which he graciously did. I pointed this dodging out and he said that what he wanted to impress to the people was the content of what this guy was saying and that he was saying it to our leaders. Which sounds good!
BUT...you really have to listen between the lines to pick up on that, since David was practically, or seemingly, fawning over Barnett. And in acutality, it was David who nudged 'me' into the 'lunatic fringe' but immediately making an allusion to the Charlie Sheen topic.
Next time, I'll just out and out say, "You a lyin' MoFo....". In fact, when I heard the intro about this clown's accomplishments on my commute home, my initial impressions was "And I should trust this bastard for WHAT reason?"
All of you know, I think, that my theory is that we've been actively controlled and guided into our current set of circumstances (i.e. a fascist corpocracy triving towards Corporate Globalism (i.e. worldwide economic ensavement)) since the assassination of JFK. And obviously before that with the creation of the CIA. Eisenhower warned us. We did not listen.
The one reason I left the long anonymous post above was this statement, which I knew 'in my heart', but could not express as well:
Upon appointment as president, Bush appoints 6 Iran-contra defendants to his staff, (13) fills the upper levels of the White house and pentagon with senior members of the PNAC (14) including his speech writer, chief advisor, secretary of defense, and vice president. Uses the terrorist attacks of 9-11 (16) to illegally invade and occupy Iraq under the false pretense of imminent threat (15) and reaps billions for Cheney's Halliburton, Rumsfeld's Bechtel, and his own family's Carlyle group.
The problem is less Bush, who is the beard and a mere tool, as much as it is the people who work 'in the shadows'...people who have been working and manipulating in the halls of power for decades, from as long ago as Nixon's reign. And when Dems were in office, these folks were still involved via the corporate world and think tanks, impacting policy and actions.
I get so mad I could spit.
hmmm...just found this searching for something. You might enjoy.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/July05/Rockstroh0731.htm
Absolutely right SK. The key thing is that they've all been around since Nixon and some probably even earlier. Even a few of the ex-presidents and foreign policy advisers stick their two cents in from time to time. Don't these people have a life?
We need to go back to the citizen gov't the founders envisioned. Serve for a term or two and then go the hell home and leave everybody alone.
People think corporations are benign ... that wealth is based on merit ... that billionaires work hard (like they do on soap operas) ... and economic 'forces' are random like the weather.
As long as people keep watching Hollywood and listening to corporate controlled media - there aint gonna be any changes. Great ! We've got Blogs, but look at what passes for journalism these days. C'mon - Bill O'Reilly is a loud-mouth opinionated bully, not a journalist. The Bill O'Reilly show is pretty extreme, but it's fascinating to wonder at what future historians will think of him and Rush Limbaugh's ditto-heads. It seems to be about indoctrination, not information.
There are decades of propaganda to un-do and I doubt whether I'll see 'commoners' giving informed consent to ANYTHING in my lifetime because of geographic illiteracy and a highly paranoid Economic glossary.
Think I'll go load up the bowl and contemplate the Liberal Leadership race. We've got an Imperial apologist who's soft on torture (Ignatieff) and the champagne socialist Bob Rae. The former NHL goalie Ken Dryden is drumming up support before declaring.
I can see that, Mac. Can hardly produce worse results than we have.
There ya go...elect a goalie, have him take the stick to work with him...and USE it! ;)
mac said:
The subjects change fast here....
which is why the world changed for the better when you stopped lurking and joined in.
good to read you, mac.
The key thing is that they've all been around since Nixon and some probably even earlier. Even a few of the ex-presidents and foreign policy advisers stick their two cents in from time to time. Don't these people have a life?
When they pulled Henry Kissinger out of the hat after 911, I smelled a rat. WTF is he doing alive?
BTW, where's Dr John. Now, there's a really sharp one.
Crypto: Zaibatsu(Japanese), Chaebol(Korean), they tried to do the same in Singapore as well.
Guess who would have led the Singapore Trade Federation? why, the PM's wife of course. She's Chairman of Singapore's state owned enterprises, and by law passed last year, has free access to the national reserves (est about 1 trillion SGD) bypassing parlimentary oversight.
Talk about business and politics in bed.
WTF!
Monkey-See learn new song to sing with Condi to impress her!
Hmmmm, me think song needs to be modified in SOME way. Any suggestions ?
Aqua
Barbie Girl
Ken: Hi ya Barbie!
Barbie: Hi Ken!
Ken: You wanna go for a ride?
Barbie: Sure Ken!
Ken: Jump in!
Chorus1:
I'm a barbie girl, in the barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
You can brush my hair, undress me everywhere imagination,
Life is your creation
Ken: Come on Barbie, Let's go party
Repeat Chorus1
Barbie: I'm a blonde single girl,in the fantasy world, pick me up big giant, I'm your dollie
Ken: Your my doll, rock and roll,feel the glamour and painkiss me here, touch me there, hanky-panky
Barbie: You can touch, you can play, you can say I'm always yours
Repeat Chorus1
Chorus2:
Ken: Come on barbie, Let's go party
Barbie: Ha ha ha yeah
Ken: come on barbie, let's go partyBarbie: ooh ooh
Repeat
Barbie: Make me walk, make me talk, do what ever you please,I can act like a star, I can begg on my knees
Ken: Come jump in, be my friend, let us do it againhear the sound, fool around, let's go party
Barbie: You can touch, you can play, you can say I'm always yoursYou can touch, you can play, you can say I'm always yours
Chorus2
Chorus1 x2
Chorus2
Barbie: Oh I'm having so much fun!
Ken: Well, Barbie, we're just getting started
Barbie: Oh, I love you Ken!
Sometimes the feeling is rightyou fall in love for the first timeheart beat and kisses so sweetsummertime love in the moonlight
Eye yipi I ooheye yipi I eheye yipi I ooh ahh
Now that summer is goneyou had to go back homeplease come and see me againI've never felt more alone
Chorus:
Ken: Baby I am missing you
Barbie: I want you by my side
Ken: And I hope you miss me too
Barbie: Come back and stay
Ken: I think about you every day
Barbie: I really want you too
Ken: You swept my feet right off the ground
Your the love I found
Monkey See said...
Monkey-See learn new song to sing with Condi to impress her!
Hmmmm, me think song needs to be modified in SOME way. Any suggestions ?
Stick to Neil Diamond. Plastic chicks doesn't sound interesting.
mac said;
Wayne,
You're south of me and we usually have the same type of weather but I think the pattern has changed of late. We had no trails for a few weeks and now it has gotten out of control. Have you noticed the same pattern?
Mac
Friday, March 31, 2006 1:00:03 PM
There have been some days of no trails. Had some cloudy days lately and some good rain, what may seem typical for this time of year. Everyone is always, I am assuming, March is a fickle month for weather. But yes, some warm days, like today, then some below normal ones. I don't think I've seen any patterns at all. That's the thing. It seems as if each and everyday is handled on a day to day basis. Granted, some mornings are bright and blue skied, but then the haze moves in and the "clouds" sometimes looking like leftovers from another state. Today, they are up there spraying and doing some really good turns. Then, they cooled out for a while. I anticipate seeing more trails as the sun goes down. It could be a full time job for someone just to monitor these things, since most of our research is analog with some radar help from the web. Right now, milky white sky but sunny. Some jets with contrails. It has been rare to have multiple days wothout trails. Staying in phase.
osotp said;
Stick to Neil Diamond. Plastic chicks doesn't sound interesting.
Friday, March 31, 2006 4:17:29 PM
Plastic chicks are also high maintenence and have no personality.
Wayne
Bill O'Reilly's show is NEWS ANALYSIS (read: His opinion). Anyone who doesn't know they are listening to O'Reilly's opinion when he is talking, must be retarded. I like the Factor, and I don't agree with everything the man says. He has the balls to confront people. You can call him a bully if you want, but I think he's one of the few people out there who actually DOES SOMETHING about the matters he believes in. Agree or disagree, the guy is making things happen. I don't watch much else on Fox News. One thing you can bet on with O'Reilly is that his fact checking is usually very clean. He does not want to be called out for errors in facts.
One of things that has really been pissing me off in journalism lately (and I see this mostly on Fox News) is how they insert their opinion into an argument by saying "Many people are saying...." or "The Majority of Americans say...". It's bullshit. Unfortunately, many people just take it as fact.
By the way, when I say O'Reilly's fact checking is clean, I mean as far as "official record" goes. Doesn't mean I buy the official record's propaganda or point of view off hand.
Just a public service announcement for those who still have little ones at home.
Death prompts recall of building sets
Magnetic building sets cause illness in over 30 children, as small magnets cause damage when swallowed.
Parents should immediately take all Magnetix Magnetic Building Sets away from their small children, the CPSC said, estimating that 3.8 million sets have been sold.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/31/news/recall/index.htm?cnn=yes
A 20-month-old boy died after swallowing magnets that twisted his small intestine and caused a blockage, the CPSC said. Overall, 34 incidents involving small children have been reported to the government.
Three children, ranging in age from 3 to 8 years, "had intestinal perforations that required surgery and hospitalization in intensive care," the CSPC said. "A 5-year-old child aspirated two magnets that were surgically removed from his lung."
Cory said:
One of things that has really been pissing me off in journalism lately (and I see this mostly on Fox News) is how they insert their opinion into an argument by saying "Many people are saying...." or "The Majority of Americans say...". It's bullshit. Unfortunately, many people just take it as fact.
I guess you missed crypto's post about Astroturfing (fake attribution). Happens all round the world. The bastards.
Wayne,
Plastic chicks are also high maintenence and have no personality.
LOL!
OSTP said...
Death prompts recall of building sets
Magnetic building sets cause illness in over 30 children, as small magnets cause damage when swallowed.
I can understand a 20 month old swallowing something like that, if the parents aren't supervising every second...but an 8 year old?
The last kid I saw that age that put things in his mouth acted like he raised himself anyway. Parents need to take some responsibility for this stuff.
Great Friday pm on FSHOD, kudos to crew !
Mac said...
"The average person is so busy working and trying to keep thier own life under control, they can't pay attention to the rest of this crap. When I talk to friends about this stuff the eyes glaze over and they just say there is nothing they can do about it."
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Right on Mac. All part of the plan, as is mind numbing TV crap and dumbed-down education.
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Crypto,
Tom Bearden has some opinions re Yakuza. he says they lease HAARP gear from Russians and use it against US.
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sk said...
"BUT...you really have to listen between the lines to pick up on that, since David was practically, or seemingly, fawning over Barnett. And in acutality, it was David who nudged 'me' into the 'lunatic fringe' but immediately making an allusion to the Charlie Sheen topic."
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HA ! Sheen is practically mainstream compared to you, you frikkin leading lunatic fringester !!!
;P
Yes, David Allen manipulated you with that one.
Where is he usually, politically? Just hearing his intro, (fawning over Barnett) I figure he is either stealth or openly one of those cheerleadin right wing radio stooges. Was he one of the Sheen-bashers you mentioned coupla days back?
Cool, hearin you on radio, btw. "LUNATIC FRINGE BLOGGER GETS ON AIR. FSHOD NUMBERS EXPLODE. BLOGGER MAKES MILLIONS ON FSHOD HATS AND T-SHIRTS"
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Here is your FSHOD mission, should you choose to except...
Order free dvd from reopen911.org
Give it to David Allen. Where he be anyhow? Jax?
Follow up. Make sure he watches it.
I been thinkin of doing same with local talk radio moron here.
Ya, I know, maybe hopeless.
I just wanna corral some of these stooges and let them see some evidence. How many of them already know the truth, and deny it anyway?
Grrrrr.
Ditto re JFK, Eisenhower.
I just found out the origin of "Astroturf"
Its a twist on 'grass roots' as in a fake grass roots movement.
Oh, so I was the only one that didn't know that?
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Wayne,
I have seen a pattern here where one month the average is considerably above normal temp, and the next colder. Like every other month.
Sky is milky here today too. Looks like they quit for now. Had the grid pattern going, and all the patterns they spray. If they were trying to fill it in they succeeded.
Check the next storm coming in on a radar map. Looks just like a small hurricane with the comma and almost an eye. No coincidence with all the spraying and that jacked up storm system. It was disorganized until it got over the midwest.
mac
mac,
yes, that was the pattern. Warm then cold. Trying to watch the weather.
New website praising Charlie Sheen:
You can login and offer up yer 2 cents worth.
http://www.bravocharlie911.com/component/option,com_akobook/Itemid,31/
Then, you can tell Oprah we need her to do a show on 911:
http://www.oprah.com/email/reach/email_showideas.jhtml
If anyone can do it, Oprah can !
Hi all,
Happy weekend! I hope this post does not qualify as a long or excessive posting per the new request. Please tell me if it does. Although I try to link whenever I can, some articles are internal news and therefore are not available publicly. In this case, the entire article or appropriate chunks are posted. Making up for some lost time ... onward:
NASA Space Science Continues To Be at Risk (Editorial)
NASA leadership is laying the groundwork for an American space science program in permanent retreat. Research and analysis programs - the very foundation of future exploration efforts - are being cut by more than 25 percent through the 2006 and 2007 budgets to help pay for increasing costs in human spaceflight.
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Mars Express Images: The Libya Montes Valley on Mars
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Goldstone Dish Celebrates 40 Years Of Service
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SMART-1: Tracking Reiner Gamma
The bright albedo feature called Reiner Gamma, is located in the Oceanus Procellarum on the near side of the Moon. From ground-based observations, this feature was first mis-identified as a crater. Only spacecraft orbiting the Moon revealed its true nature. Reiner Gamma is totally flat and consists of much brighter material than the surrounding dark mare. (emphasis mine) Only three features like this exist on the Moon: apart from Reiner Gamma on the lunar near side, there are two more on the lunar far side, not visible from the Earth. The last two features are exactly opposite of the large impact sites which created Mare Imbrium and Mare Orientale. It is assumed that these features formed due to the reflection of the shock wave of these impacts on the opposite side of the Moon. The area also coincides with a strong magnetic anomaly. (emphasis mine)
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RELEASE: 06-130
CASSINI FINDS "MISSING LINK" MOONLET EVIDENCE IN SATURN'S RINGS
Scientists with NASA's Cassini mission have found evidence that a new class of small moonlets resides within Saturn's rings. There may be as many as 10 million of these objects within one of Saturn's rings alone.
The moonlets' existence could help answer the question of whether Saturn's rings were formed through the break-up of a larger body or are the remnants of the disk of material from which Saturn and its moons formed.
Careful analysis of high-resolution images taken by Cassini's cameras revealed four faint, propeller-shaped double-streaks. These features were found in an otherwise bland part of the mid-A ring, a bright section in Saturn's main rings.
Cassini imaging scientists reporting in this week's edition of the journal Nature believe the "propellers" provide the first direct observation of how moonlets of this size affect nearby particles. Cassini took the images as it slipped into Saturn's orbit on July 1,
2004.
"These moonlets are likely to be chunks of the ancient body whose break-up produced Saturn's glorious rings," said Joseph Burns of Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y. Burns is a co-author of the report.
Previous measurements, including those made by NASA's Voyager spacecraft in the early 1980s, have shown that Saturn's rings contain mostly small water-ice particles ranging from less than one-half inch across to the size of a small house. Scientists knew about two larger embedded ring moons such as 19-mile-wide Pan and 4-mile-wide Daphnis. The latest findings mark the first evidence of objects of approximately 300 feet in diameter.
From the number of moonlets spotted in the very small fraction of the A ring seen in the images, scientists estimated the total number of moonlets to be about 10 million.
"The discovery of these intermediate-sized bodies tells us that Pan and Daphnis are probably just the largest members of the ring population, rather than interlopers from somewhere else," said Matthew Tiscareno, an imaging team research associate at Cornell and lead author of the Nature paper.
Moons as large as Pan and Daphnis clear large gaps in the ring particles as they orbit Saturn. In contrast, smaller moonlets are not strong enough to clear out the ring, resulting in a partial gap centered on the moonlet and shaped like an airplane propeller. Such features created by moonlets were predicted by computer models, which give scientists confidence in their latest findings.
"We acquired this spectacular, one-of-a-kind set of images immediately after getting into orbit for the express purpose of seeing fine details in the rings that we had not seen previously," said Carolyn Porco, Cassini imaging team leader and co-author. "This will open up a new dimension in our exploration of Saturn's rings and moons, their origin and evolution."
The detection of moonlets embedded in a ring of smaller particles may provide an opportunity to observe the processes by which planets form in disks of material around young stars, including our own early solar system.
"The structures we observe with Cassini are strikingly similar to those seen in many numerical models of the early stages of planetary formation, even though the scales are dramatically different," said co-author Carl Murray, an imaging team member at Queen Mary, University of London. "Cassini is giving us a unique insight into the origin of planets."
The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA and the European and Italian Space Agencies. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., manages the mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate.
For images showing the propeller-shaped features on the Web, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/cassini
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Russian Satellite Hit By Micrometeorite?
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MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES -- March 27-31, 2006
o Unstable Dust (Released 27 March 2006)
o Lava Flows (Released 28 March 2006)
o Changing Winds (Released 29 March 2006)
o Dunes (Released 30 March 2006)
o Layered Deposit (Released 31 March 2006)
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371 Bohemia
I just sort of threw my opinion of Bill O'Reilly because it typifies what's wrong with the media - it's SO unbalanced. I know that a show featuring the name Bill O'Reilly gives the impression that the ideas belong to Bill O'Reilly - and maybe they do - but they do not differ from the Republican party line, much like the other shows, the pundits, the on-air personalities. If Bill O'Reilly was 75% Republican and 25% Democrat - it wouldn't be so offensive to me (par for the course). But 100% ? Accusing people of "hating our troops" ? Cut his mic - Cut his mic .... Shut Up ! Shut Up! That's not an opinion, that's strict control over the flow of ideas - not inviting contrary views.
WMD's = defending America. No WMD's = Imperialism. Notice how Bush seemed surprised that the commoners would distinguish the two ? Bill O'Reilly puts the anal in analysis.
OK, you lunatic fringe bigfoot wackos:
Or as Charlie Sheen said, 'Conspiracy Nutbags'
Finally, the TRUTH !
Just ask the State Dept !
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Sep/16-241966.html
Here, your "outrageous conspiracy theories" are addressed calmly and rationally, no doubt approved by Condoleeza.
an excerpt:
" As noted above, when Mr. Silverstein was recounting these events for a television documentary he stated, “I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is to pull it.”
Mr. McQuillan has stated that by “it,” Mr. Silverstein meant the contingent of firefighters remaining in the building."
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But Larry Silverstein actually said: "I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is to pull it, and they made that decision, to pull, then we watched the building collapse."
The Public Safety is not an issue for an owner like Larry Silverstein. Owners use pronouns related to ownership level decisions - especially when they use possessive terms like "we" decided to pull it. He doesn't have discretionary power to pull firefighters, but he does have discretionary power to pull a building he owns - or rather start the application process to pull the building.
yes, and Larry blamed it on the fire dept, saying "...they made that decision, to pull, then we watched the building collapse"
All,
Some more news ... anyone listening?
NASA HQ Raided In Kiddie Porn Probe
This should sound familiar to some...
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371 Bohemia
Bohemia,
Magnetic anamoly eh? Now, what do you suppose that is from??? :) Thanks for the great links, I DLing the large tiff of Libya. Very cool pic!
NASA HQ Raided In Kiddie Porn Probe
This should sound familiar to some...
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371 Bohemia
Friday, March 31, 2006 8:28:45 PM
Saw that on Drudge. Just sad it is.
Wayne
T,
I've seen the cloud types you are talking about. It was windy when I saw them too. Keep lookin up!
W
Iapetus and the Moon are cousins? Ponder that.
Anonymous said...
bahamaia works for nasa and is a child molesting faggot
Friday, March 31, 2006 8:49:28 PM
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I take great exception to this anonymous posting. I cannot fathom this insult. This tremendously infuriates and disgusts me.
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371 Bohemia
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Bohemia - you're a provocateur and you're not a "yes" man (though I have indulged in guilt-by-association to suggest you might be) ... posts like that are not taken seriously. Posts like that are sorta the reason we all invent new names for our bad selves, aint it ?
biological_unit,
how are your annihilation photons?
-Chiam
Hey Bo,
Thanks for great info and links !
And just ignore the idiots, please if can.
;)
Iapetus and the Moon are cousins?
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who say dat?
izzat YOU?
To Crypto2 and others,
An agent provocateur is one employed to associate with suspected persons and by pretending sympathy with their aims to incite them to some incriminating action.
As I interpret this, it has negative and nefarious implications.
To whom am I inciting to incriminating action?
And Crypto2, are you suggesting I invent a new name? If so, why? The message and content is the same. Anyone can figure it out. Please elucidate.
The information sometimes gets posted here a couple of days before any public forum receives it. Sometimes, some events and news-worthy items never see the public light or go unnoticed. I try to get it out in the hopes that someone else can see the puzzle and figure out the pieces. On my side, we cannot see the forest for the trees. We are piled high and deep with data. We try to piece it together but end up only able to put together a few pieces of a gigantic jigsaw puzzle. Then, we lose sight.
I have been inspected and audited for posting here. I used what every good government employee employs -- plausible deniability. I took my chances. Nearly got caught. But am still on the loose.
I share the frustrations. It pains me to see the profession I dedicated my life to study at risk of becoming extinct. The once great space organization I believed in as a child is a mirage of it's former prowess. Tainted and poisoned by greed, excessive bloat, and ugly politics. If I can't scream out what is behind the scenes as best I can, then what is the point of being in my profession? What is the point of being an educator? It is freedom of expression without freedom or expression. I become a useless and empty shell of my former self ... like NASA and many other programs?
We have not done well in recent decades. I'll be the first to openly admit to that. We have done wrong to the tax payers supporting the programs. We have stalled and dulled the advancement of science and the understanding of our stellar origins. We have built the impenetrable Ivory Tower behind which all secrets are kept in silence, darkness, lock, and key. Why?
Why did this have to happen? Do we think we are shielding anyone? If so, who? I haven't the answers either!
The engine grinds slowly due to the viscous fluid.
I wanted to see us on the Moon already. Perhaps even inhabiting it to some extent. We should be there. More than 36 years have passed since our last journey and we still have at least another 12 years to wait.
I wanted to live in the world of Star Trek space exploration reality. Now, we cannot keep our space shuttles super-glued together long enough to complete a mission. We cannot even maintain any useful orbit. And, to me, the moon seems more distant than ever.
All this is posturing like peacocks during mating season. And the grass is NOT always greener on the other side.
I and other "old-timers" keep saying every year "It cannot get any worse." Yet, it does and continues to decline. Every year we say amongst ourselves "this is the worst it has ever been." And the following year still surprises us. We hold on and stay the fight because we still have our hopes and childhood dreams -- and for some, the dreams of their own children as well. Perhaps we are blind idealists or hopeless romantics. But we stick to our beliefs of an organisation, an industry, regardless of how extinct, WAS.
Flip the coin, there are the politician-types who are here to simply get the name recognition, their egos further inflated, to call themselves the "heroes" while standing on the backs of their associates. Et tu, Brute? Their ideas are seemingly the antithesis to mine. To them, they see greedy opportunities and advancement. They ignore the legacy and the sacrifice of those to get us to the point we were. They defile the sanctity of pure scientific investigation, pursuit of knowledge and dreams that fill the minds and imaginations of our future explorers and researchers. Shallow, soulless, self-centered egoists incapable of comprehending the value of the research and investigations we do. This is the group I am personally against. And I certainly am not on any of their holiday lists (except maybe the sh!t list).
I am very warmed that some find my postings more of a helpful service than as an agent provocateur. To those individuals, I sincerely say thank you. To other who disagree with me or question my intentions, I appreciate your tolerance and ask that we can work on common ground.
So, what do you all want me to do?
P.S. If I am over-reacting, please forgive. It has been one twisted week. I'll spare the details. I guess I was set off by the highly offending anonymous post. I am sickened.
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371 Bohemia
biological_unit,
if you were a Pharaoh inside a pyramid, and you fell, would anyone hear it?
-Chiam
Biological-Unit,
It also does not help that "space scientists" are unaware of the extended Maxwell equations. 40 years ago or so, this was taught. Now, it is inexplicably omitted. Through the extended Maxwell Equations allowances for the electric universe are made and the far reaching consequences of an EM universe becomes apparent.
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371 Bohemia
biological_unit,
i forgot to ask what is the color of your fez?
biological_unit,
surely we can forgive your trespasses against us ... can you do the same?
We can gather over Babaghanouj with Cumin and introduce you to some elders (Gershom and Yadid).
You will enjoy very much, yes?
A gezunt ahf dein kop!
-Chiam
Oy vay iz mir
biological_unit, the day you speak, well, it was a ery important day for us too. My ancestors have wondered deserts endlessly. We, like any other nation, are entitled to a homeland.
To single out Jewish self-determination for condemnation is itself a form of racism. "A world that closed its doors to Jews who sought escape from Hitler's ovens lacks the moral standing to complain about Israel's giving preference to Jews," wrote noted civil rights lawyer Alan Dershowitz.
Now that we understand each other, my offer still stands for Babaghanouj with Cumin or Gefilte fish.
You accept, no?
-Chiam
Oy!
Biological_unit, remember ... Kaporeh. Kaporeh! Forgiveness.
-Chiam
biological_unit,
If you wish, we can give you your own kippah as an act of good-will and acceptance.
-Chiam
Bo,
Sorry to hear of your discouraging experience at your career workplace.
You are welcome here. I really appreciate your presence and info, and I know others do also. Please stick around.
I can only imagine the depth of your disappointment, your being part of the (once) so profound and great, now floundering space program. Your experience is linked to ours here, and that is probably how you (and we) got here.
There is support here.
Ich ken dir nisht farfeeren.
It is for the unity!
How about making a voluntary contribution to the Tzedakeh box? You will feel better you did and draw closer to understanding and UNITY!
-Chiam
word verification is "joyxh"
just a word of encouragement bohemia,
your posts here are most appreciated.
Despite the case of NASA being hijacked from the public
on many 'sensitive' subjects, I greatly look forward
to your links, on more than a couple of occasions the
new releases of images that you have linked have been
highlights of my day.
That person that posted that is a sorry slimebucket.
It really is hard to comprehend someone being that
much of an idiot.
Unipax, I ordered the video, lol 29.95-hope it delivers.
Having fun trying to learn about circuits, a rewarding
experience thusfar. Will have more about the Gray
magnetic motor soon.
Bryan
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Gerald T has found a cylindrical looking relic on Mars !
http://marsrelaystation.blogspot.com/
Just saw the news....Don't fall for the hype about flooding in Hawaii. We are having a wet spell in an average monsoon season. There are some isolated incidents, but they are due to:
a) crappy govt not maintaining the overflow control systems.
b) slimy developers building homes in known flood prone areas.
c) poorly maintained dam on Kauai. (combo of a and b above. Cost; 7 souls.)
d) coincidentally, a burst water main, combined with, and due to 'a' above
With all the precipitation, Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea have had some awesome snowcaps lately.
The local CBS affiliate in Honolulu is hyping "severe weather" (pounding the fear drum). CBS is the biggest Fearmonger, I think.
Its just more bullshit. You know the M.O.
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In "Bowling for Columbine" MIchael Moore really nailed the media's fear machinery.
How come he let Bush off the hook in "Fahrenheit 911" ?
Bohemia,
Yes, u r always welcome here. Valued member of the Crewe. Sorry you were exposed to such stupidity, just wasn't quick enough on the BSHOD.
Bio-Unit,
I WILL NOT HAVE THIS BLOG TURNED INTO A PLATFORM FOR YOUR ANTI-JEWISH SENTIMENT! END IT...NOW! You were doing pretty good there, be are slowly degenerating...and no we have this fucking battle with Chaim? This is NOT what FSHOD is about. Create you own Jew-hating blog and go spew your crap there, I will not have it here anymore. You denigrate this blog, the people here and our purpose. Shape up or walk the plank!
Also, getting tired of your nonsense posts, wherein I have NO idea what the hell you are talking about or to whom you speak. When you communicate effectively, your are good. When you act like an idiot or Jew Hater, you're bad.
C'mon...go with he flow, friend...I do NOT want to get into apissin contest with you.
We have not done well in recent decades. I'll be the first to openly admit to that. We have done wrong to the tax payers supporting the programs. We have stalled and dulled the advancement of science and the understanding of our stellar origins. We have built the impenetrable Ivory Tower behind which all secrets are kept in silence, darkness, lock, and key. Why? Bohemia..thanks for "reposting" the comments as Sunking obliterated the thread and the rest of us who have to work at real jobs and do not have access to the Internet doing our menial day to day activity, (yes Sunking you are getting flak here), would be in the dark. The fallout, however, (just above) is only the third time you have posted something relevant but do not despair in that comment; I am really impressed with your disclosure and for that alone, I thank you.
I copied and pasted a blog I thought should be documented. It includes the 80 plus comments to that blog.
http://eastsouthwestandnorth.blogspot.com/
Just in case you thought Indiana joined daylight savings on April 1, 2006 for a practical joke..FEMA
http://getintheirface.blogspot.com/2006/03/fema-camp-footage-google-video.html
Good Stuff Dad
Now for a look at the real world of Halliburton style 7-11 concentration camps in a neighbourhood near you...
http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/7417909.html
Thunderstorm in March, not uncommon but really rare. Usually is cooler than 71 like in the 50's F. WTF!
fool,
Never mind the pope. Your dad is a saint. You are courageous and an inspiration. I've had my secret doubts, and now I can follow in your footsteps. As I write this, my books, my old mufon card, my videos and dvds, and all my tinfoil hats are blazing in a ceremonial pyre.
Fool said:
I pray for you all at FSHOD and I hope you get “on track” to avoid going to hell.
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Hellbound, yeah that's where we're ALL headed anyways.
Might as well reach your destination with a smile :)
Pass me that hoogah TF! Hisssffff...........AHHHHHHHHHH!
On April 7, 2001, the 2001 Mars Odyssey spacecraft began its journey to Mars with a flawless launch. Five years later, the spacecraft and science teams are going strong, returning unique information about the composition, geology and environment of Mars. On Friday, April 7, the Mars Odyssey Project celebrates the 5th anniversary of its spacecraft launch and its remarkable successes over the last 5 years in advancing our knowledge of Mars and its environment.
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Venus Express orbit insertion still on-track for 11 April 2006.
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371 Bohemia
Do you think you might respond to the blog subject?
Bohemia, I didn't see the awful post that upset you, but I will say as I have said before that your postings of links to what is going on inside NASA is very valuable and I hope you continue to do this. I admit that I don't have the science background others seem to, but I enjoy reading them nonetheless. It's my tax dollars, I think I should have a chance to peek at what my dollars are doing at NASA. If it weren't for you, this window would not be open.
As for being an agent provocateur, I think you might not be viewed that way as crew here, but someone at NASA is looking at you that way as soon as they figure out who you are because you are putting out the information they would rather see squashed.
I share your disappointment that the "future" has not turned out to yet be the one we were shown on Star Trek. I'll oversimplify it here, but to someone growing up in the 1960s and 70's, the thought of going out among the stars and being mature enough as a species to quit wasting time and resources trashing this planet was quite exciting. The rate we seemed to be moving towards reaching out physically to other planets in our own solar system was also an exciting step in this direction. It seemed reasonable at the time to think that be 1999 or 2001 we would have a base on the moon and to have built a ship that could take us to other planets and back again. My excitement took a huge hit when it was apparent that the shuttle was very limited in capability compared to what we could be doing in space. My excitement dropped further when it seemed that the goals were less lofty for human exploration, yet I felt the robotic exploration was still a great way to pave the way for humans to follow. Now it all seems completely SNAFU'ed. The squandered opportunities has got to hurt the worst.
with sympathy,
starshipconstellation
Mr Sheen is the latest celebrity to confuse fact and fiction
Pay attention, civilians. Actor Charlie Sheen has been focusing his mind on the official explanation for 9/11. And you know what? He's not buying it. "It just didn't look like any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life," the Hotshots Part Deux star told a US radio station this week, "and then when the buildings came down later on that day, I said to my brother 'call me insane', but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition?"
You're insane. Next.
"It seems to me like 19 amateurs with box cutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75% of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory."
But it is George Bush's assertion that he saw the first plane hit the north tower of the World Trade Centre before any footage of it had been released that tells Charlie he's on to something. "I guess one of the perks of being president is that you get access to TV channels that don't exist in the known universe," he continued in a manner which in no way suggests he once had a monstrous coke problem. "It might lead you to believe that he'd seen similar images in some type of rehearsal as it were, I don't know."
Mmm. For many celebrities, conspiracy theories are the VIP rooms of history. Sure, you'll have your Earl Warrens and your senate investigations patrolling the velvet rope, but if you know the right people, and have access to enormous quantities of self-regard, you can get through to the inner sanctum where they tell you It's All A Big Lie.
Frankly, with dentistry as expensive as yours, you simply can't afford to let The Man stamp his jackboot down on your face, and so it is that when faced with the inquiry "did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone?", you find yourself thinking: "God, I mean ... do any of us? Like, he had to have people, you know? At least an agent and a publicist."
Anyway, back to Charlie. "It feels like from the people I talk to in and around my circles," he blathers on, "it seems like the worm is turning."
It's hard to be sure who's in his circles, but you'd have to think there'd be a seat in the Sheen kitchen cabinet for Spike Lee, who last year told CNN he suspected the Bush administration had blown up the levees in New Orleans.
"Remember the film Chinatown?" he began promisingly, "where they flooded the LA basin ... I believe that it's not too far-fetched to think that, look, we got a bunch of poor black people here. We got to save these other neighbourhoods. What we got to do, dump this in this ward, boom. I believe it. I don't put anything past the US government."
Also taking a position round the table comes this column's beloved Tom Cruise, who famously dismisses psychiatry as a big conspiracy. Which is a little like a dehydrated man claiming water is a conspiracy. And completing the quartet is Michael Jackson, who not only claims all his recent legal bother was a vast plot against him, but was taped espousing the oldest conspiracy of all: it's the Jews! And they're targeting people in the, um, entertainment industry. "They [the Jews] suck them like leeches," he whined in a telephone call played to a courtroom last year. "I'm so tired of it. They start out the most popular person in the world, make a lot of money, big house, cars and everything and end up penniless. It's a conspiracy. The Jews do it on purpose."
Michael? You're wanted back on Planet Earth. Well, in a way.
So lonely? He must be
Ever since he cemented his eco-warrior credentials by advertising a huge gas-guzzling Jaguar, the world has wondered: what's the next inspired idea Sting's going to have? The wait is over. He's opening a lapdancing club.
God knows there are times we've all thought, "Sod the rainforest: let's go to Spearmint Rhino," but few of us have been committed enough to raise the money to stick in the bank's knickers and open one up.
Happily, Sting is all set to do just that by bringing a branch of the Forty Deuce chain of strip clubs to Manhattan, where the local press reports he is famous for insisting lapdancers keep their clothes on while performing for him. Which is not at all the sort of preposterous affectation you'd expect from the old boy.
Of course, it wasn't long ago that Sting was publicly berating Middle East leaders for failing to heed the message in his song Desert Rose, so it'll be nice to have a ready-made entertainment emporium to whisk delegations off to after any summits he's planning.
George what is it you want from us? Do you want us to say that Jews rule the world and that money actually means something? Sorry, my universe is bigger than that.
SK- I saw the post - it said 'bahamia' was a pedphile and I forgot to copy/paste it at the top of MY post, which said you can call Bohemia many things, but not that (not here). I'd make fun of a uniform or not respect the authoritii of rank, but never the man inside. Pedophile accusations should be directed to a county prosecutor, not a Blog.
Money makes the world go 'round, but money is not the world. Or, maybe it is, because world is socially constructed space and Earth is more God-made. Until they start rounding up non-Jews, I don't mind if Red Sea pedestrians have a delusion or guiding myth that they're the chosen ones. The British Israel Association thinks they are the Jews, while Sir Francis Bacon spoke for the Aristocracy when he said, "we are the ancient and wise" - and the Anglo-American Establishment elevates the Jews as a canary in the (gold) mine shaft. It's an insurance policy, so when the commoners rise up, the Jews will be rounded up - not Episcopalians. It could be that Jews "control" the media because they themselves are controlled, or easily controllable because of their religion ...
Biological_Unit said...
Jews (Zionists) rule the world and money actually means something.
You are a contradition..a b u needs; food, warmth, shelter.
B U..911 is a dead issue. We really need to focus on the very near future. Think of 911 as the punctuation mark at the end of a long litany of evil. Only one thing left and "its a thief in the night" and what you do now and what you say are ultimately the "reality" you must work in. Why preach from a pulpit of fear when triumph is just in front of you.
"911 is a dead issue"
eric, please help me understand your comment.
The 911 truth movement is growing exponentially, or so it appears.
Increasing numbers of people see 911 truth as a key to regime change.
Some say don't hold your breath cuz tptb are not about to allow the truth to get out and cause their demise.
Is that what you mean by dead issue? One question is what will they do to stop the 911 truth movement?
Jesus was a philosopher born into a Jewish family - if Jesus were Jewish forst, more Jews today would imitate him, wouldn't they ?
A superiority complex is required for super-power status ... and in the 1950s, I would be told to "shut up" because the Russians might take our belly-aching about obscene wealth and private power to be an invitation to invade (in a working men of the world unite sorta way) ... but the Soviet Union is no more and they're still telling truth-speaking Economists to "shut up" ... because nobody with money in their bank account wants the rules changed - even if it means 100% employment and 0% homeless ...
Unrelated to our discussion - since many people write letters about NASA and truth ... does anyone know an e-mail address for Oprah! ??
yes cryps,
bravocharlie911.com has a link to Oprah for asking her to do a 911 show or something.
Actually, why has she not acted yet? She has mucho power.
I'll go look for the link
sorry, cannot find Oprah link at bravocharlie911.com
I sent Charlie a note to tell him BRAVO ... but couldn't find a link to Oprah ... Charlie's going to out-do Alec Baldwin for having his act together. Bright guy ... wonder if he's a pot-head ...
I should have elaborated about my Oprah email dilemma - is there a way of reading properties to get an actual address, like, oprah@oprah.com ? I don't need to reach the host of the show, just looking for an e-mail address.
I got this from BravoCharlie911
http://www.oprah.com/email/reach/email_showideas.jhtml
That might work for you.
Errorism, that's great!
Peace,
Daniel
> I got to your site while looking for an e-mail address for Oprah (couldn't find it) but I am among the 83% who are thinking, "Bravo Charlie !!!!"
> Loved the term Factivism ...
> I've been calling it Errorism.
> A Hollywood movie = lies that tell a truth.
> 9-11 Commission = official truths that tell a lie ...
>
Oil, that bubbling crude, Black Gold, Texas Tea; no matter which country’s buying or selling it, all oil purchases around the globe are made with U.S. dollars only. The greenback is the international currency of oil sales, all oil sales the world over. Since the dollar is the money needed to purchase oil, every country around the globe must hold U.S. dollars. By having to earn or borrow U.S. currency to purchase oil, the value of the dollar is artificially supported because of the demand for oil. Supporting the value of the dollar is vital to the economy of the United States.
If the demand for the dollar overseas would diminish fifty percent, meaning that half of the U.S. currency floating around the globe would no longer be needed by foreign governments, every country and person holding U.S. dollars would quickly experience a fifty percent decrease in their monies purchasing power, or one hundred percent inflation.
As long as the greenback reigns supreme as the international currency for oil purchases, catastrophic economic collapse of the U.S. economy will be prevented. Even as the United States national debt approaches $8 trillion, and despite the fact that for all practical purposes the federal government of the United States has been legally bankrupt since 1933, the U.S. dollar has survived depressions and recessions, bull and bear markets, inflation and deflation, fluctuating interest rates, and every other pressure and strain placed upon it. As with any other commodity, the reason the dollar has weathered the storms of the last seven-two years is directly attributed to demand.
The currency of the United States is fiat money. Fiat money is paper money decreed legal tender, not backed by gold or silver. What that means is that any value the U.S. dollar retains in the United States is the result of the federal government enacting law that says it is legal tender. Legal tender means that the dollar must be accepted in the United States as payment for all debts, public and private. If the people living in the United States lost faith in the dollar and began to defy the legal tender law by only accepting gold coin to pay for debt, the value of the dollar would plummet. If the people persisted and resisted the federal government’s certain forceful effort to make people accept the dollar to pay for all debts, the value of the dollar would completely vanish. It would not be worth the paper it’s printed on. It would be worth-less.
If people refused the dollar in the United States and started trading in gold coin, the big losers wouldn’t be the people, although they would know hardship and lean times. It would be the banking cartel, the Federal Reserve, and the federal government, because it is the borrowing of fiat money from the Federal Reserve that allows the federal government to spend money it doesn’t have on things it should not need. The Federal Reserve is sustained by interest paid on fiat money and the global demand for the U.S. dollar resulting from the dollar being the international currency of all oil sales. It’s as simple as supply, demand, and interest payments.
The problem with fiat money is that it creates the welfare state. When money is one hundred percent backed by gold or silver, government cannot spend money it does not have because they cannot print more money unless they have the gold or silver to back it up. Fiat money has allowed the United States to run up a high interest, credit card-like debt of, as previously mentioned, $8 trillion. When the politicians in Washington DC need more money, they simple print it. For each dollar printed without any commodity like gold or silver supporting it, and for each printed while there exists a national debt, the value of all other dollars already in circulation depreciates. Again, it’s supply and demand. When the federal government can manipulate the money supply simply by printing more money, the value of the money in the people’s wallets decrease. This decrease in value increases the number of dollars required to make purchases. When this occurs, it’s called inflation. Inflation is a hidden tax on the American people. When the politicians in Washington DC continue to spend borrowed money, they are in fact passing a humongous tax onto the people.
So what’s this have to do with the price of Texas Tea in Iraq? The background information explaining fiat money and the U.S. dollar is necessary to fully appreciate one of the reasons why I believe the United States invaded Iraq and why we may have little choice than to invade Iran. It is my contention that the War on Terror has some additional elements that are seldom discussed by the mainstream media. Some of the fight has to do with protecting the supremacy of the U.S. dollar as the international currency for oil sales.
Protesters of the War in Iraq say oil is the reason we invaded that country. The Iraqi people that are now fighting against our troops say we’re in their country to steal their oil. Both are wrong. The world’s oil supply is stable, despite what big oil would like you to believe. Consequently, there is no need at this time to invade oil-producing countries to steal their oil. Remember, it’s supply and demand. No, America is not in Iraq to steal oil. Part of the reason America is in Iraq is to re-establish the U.S. dollar as the only currency accepted to purchase Iraq’s oil.
In November 2000, Iraq stopped accepting U.S. dollars for their oil. Counted as a purely political move, Saddam Hussein switched the currency required to purchase Iraqi oil to the euro. Selling oil through the U.N. Oil for Food Program, Iraq converted all of its U.S. dollars in its U.N. account to the euro. Shortly thereafter, Iraq converted $10 billion in their U.N. reserve fund to the euro. By the end of 2000, Iraq had abandoned the U.S. dollar completely.
Two months after the United States invaded Iraq, the Oil for Food Program was ended, the country’s accounts were switch back to dollars, and oil began to be sold once again for U.S. dollars. No longer could the world buy oil from Iraq with the euro. Universal global dollar supremacy was restored. It is interesting to note that the latest recession that the United States endured began and ended within the same timeframe as when Iraq was trading oil for euros. Whether this is a coincidence or related, the American people may never know.
Today there’s a greater threat to dollar supremacy in the global oil market. It is Iran’s goal to open their version of the New York Mercantile Index (NYMEX) and London’s International Petroleum Exchange (IPE). The NYMEX and IPE are both owned by a U.S. consortium and operated by IntercontinentalExchange, Inc. based in Atlanta, GA. Both the NYMEX and IPE can be described as stock exchanges for oil and other natural resources – they’re oil exchanges for the world’s global oil market. Obviously, both only accept U.S. dollars.
Iran is projected to launch a third oil exchange in March 2006. They have developed an Iranian petroeuro system for oil trade, which if enacted, would threaten U.S. dollar supremacy far greater than Iraq’s euro conversion. Called the Iran Oil Bourse, an exchange that only accepts the euro for oil sales would mean that the entire world could begin purchasing oil from any oil-producing nation with euros instead of dollars. The Iranian plan isn’t limited to purchasing one oil-producing country’s oil with euros. Their plan will create a global alternative to the U.S. dollar. If opened, the Iran Oil Bourse will further the momentum of OPEC to create an alternate currency for oil purchases worldwide. China, Russia, and the European Union are evaluating the Iranian plan to exchange oil for euros, and giving the plan serious consideration.
If these countries drop the dollar in favor of the euro and support the demise of the U.S. dollar as the international currency for global oil purchasing, America’s debt will end in default, the trade deficit will likely double, and the dollars that we carry in our wallets will be worth less, much less then they are right now. In the simplest terms, everything will appear to cost more because the dollar will be worth less.
In theory, the price of goods and services do not go up. It is actually the value of the dollar going down that causes economic insecurity and inflated prices at the cash register. Once the American people understand this important lesson regarding fiat money, change will be demanded in Washington DC.
Whether the United States can thwart Iran’s Oil Bourse without military intervention is debatable and remains to be seen. The damage done to the economic security of the United States by both the Democratic and Republican Parties over the last seven decades, their running up a staggering $8 trillion national debt, has weakened the dollar and placed the United States in the precarious position of having to find excuses to invade countries that threaten not America’s sovereignty and way of life, but its currency.
This strategy of backing the U.S. dollar with bullets instead of bullion cannot sustain itself forever. Sooner or later, the American people will be required to pay for their government’s out of control spending. When that time comes, the people are going to pay hell trying to do what needs to be done; abolish the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and 16th Amendment of the Constitution, eliminate the IRS and at least twelve hundred of the fifteen hundred agencies of the federal government while slashing the two million federal employee payroll by fifty percent.
Essentially, the current grip of the two-party juggernaut in Washington DC needs to be broken, the current government needs to be abolished and returned to a constitutional republic, and finally, the dollar has to be returned to the gold standard once and for all. If the American people fail to take these specific actions now, it is likely that in ten years or less, the dollar will be replaced by the euro as legal tender in the United States, and the American people will be subject to direct, global taxation by the United Nations on behalf of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund.
You can now consider yourself forewarned.
Government can afford to spend on the people - that's why the $75 screw-drivers make sense to some people. Funding the enemy makes sense to people using the enemy to put the squeeze on the bottom 95%. Over-inflating the gold in reserve is sorta like ... over-estimating the oil in the ground while underestimating the world's supply with faulty science. We're talking about repeat offenders - trust fund brats of today are descnded from tycoons who ran the US economy into the ground, pretending they had more reserves than known world supply. They closed the banks on 3-3-33 and used the panic to extract The New Deal. I think reserves went from an over=inflated $44B to something like $12B - the known world supply of gold was at $22B. Who paid for that ? The working poor and the farmers ... and who decided to fore the issue at 3-3-33 ? When you claim to have $44B and there's only $22B worth of gold in the world ... when do you fix things ? How about when the fake reserves equal world supply ? Why let it go until 1933 ? Could it be the Dust Bowl that gave the elites their opportunity to strike ? If the farmers were not in such a vulnerable position, things might have been different ... but the city poor had nowhere to turn. The ballistics is all there, while motive was never established because the sins of the elites were washed away with WWII. Ekites resented the heck out of the independant American farmer because he was immune to the (world) economic forces. Urbanization also blurred the lines, as rural America sold out to corporate America. The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is the motive (there's that Z word again) but I think it was written by some super-elites that travelled London-New York on a ship. When the crash comes, the same clique of super-rich (new generation) will also resent that they will lose more than people with nothing to lose.
Uni..911 is an icon or talisman to power. The more you play with it, the stronger you make it appear. The times they are a changin. Focus on the foul of this earth is like being a cop on the porno watch. It doesn't matter how many people think Brutus killed Ceasar, what really counts is what Truth can be attained by beating this drum now. Are we going to "swing"... the election? Yea right......
Another way to look at this is to point out that the portal of "light" seen by many in the past in a near death experience, has closed. This has something to do with hyper dimensional fiddling with weather, volcanoes, earthquakes and the skies over our heads. Dante would be proud. Souls lined up and down the mountain waiting for a cosmic cleansing while FEMA builds "Rapture".
Hi all...
Been very busy with school recently, and haven't had a chance to post...
For those who didn't see the recent solar eclipse, go here...
http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=3912&gid=283
It's got some incredible shots of the eclipse there...
I see we have some new people. To them, I say, welcome aboard...
And now, in the words of Speedy Delivery (the mailman in "Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood")...
"Gotta run, gotta fly, gotta say goodbye!"...
John
What's that Monty Python sketch animation where a crotchity, bad tempered, old man goes
to bed...a while later he wakes up and an amazing, transformed butterfly human emerges?...
...anyway.
Sunking...
Great to hear you on the radio !
I thought the answer went on to reel out exactly what you were painting a picture of.
Sort going on auto-pilot into the future.
He said democracy is being spread in the middle east so it must OK, must'nt it ?
Made me think of a future society where Bush is hailed in the history books as bringing
order to the Middle East. Then a student decodes that 'un-accessable' ancient hard-drive
with...100 year old FSHOD postings on it.
From your link:
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/July05/Rockstroh0731.htm
> "Otherwise, we would be forced to face our complicity in Nixon's crimes; otherwise, a million Vietnamese corpses would have risen accusingly in our dreams"
"And the dead will walk the earth"....er...Jas ?
> "As a rule, we used drugs neither to expand our awareness nor as an act of social or political rebellion -- rather they were utilized as apolitical agents of anesthetization."
Could the 'rave generation' have been manipulated ?
> "seeming rebelliousness was, below the lank-haired, faded denim-clad, reefer-reeking surface, a pervasive anomie ... the metastasizing of an insidious indifference -- to a large measure a radical renunciation of anything more challenging than those things available within the immediate confines of our comfort zones. It was a revelry in adolescent, pop culture narcissism, punctuated by incessant self-medication, that was mistaken for the excesses of freedom"
Soma...Brave New World...E...That stuff actually numbs you out, I suspect.
"a pervasive anomie"...That's the best description I've heard of what we 'winge' about at
FSHOD !
> "inner desolation that threatens to devour the resources of the entire planet"
I think feel sorry for the human race sometimes :-(
mac...
> The elites at the top controlling everything and the rest of us at the bottom.
But what if you have a 'short circuit' to God so you no longer need 'religion'?
What if FSHOD is actually a band of 'stupid people', who took the anti-zombie pill ?
> The average person is so busy working and trying to keep their own life under control, they
> can't pay attention to the rest of this crap.
Yes! I don't expect everyone to fall in step with my grand 911 theory. Only that people
allow some of us to get 'down and dirty'. Occasionally a few drops of oil get
splattered on the pavement to disrupt innocent civilians day to day business. That gets
cleaned up as soon as possible.
> The whole system is broken
BINGO! Now we're getting somewhere :-> How else do we get serious industrial pollution, whole
forest eco-systems being taken out and a seeming lack of a feedback from people protecting
their home systems (hint: little, itty, parts of earth that add up to the whole) ?
This is maybe where I go off the scale, but the entire shock of modern industrialised society
looks like what is described when an indigenous culture is shocked by 'first contact' with
outside, global society. There's a hole in my radar screen...and I ain't getting no signals back :-/
> That is what has to happen with the everyday American before anything changes.
From my UK perspective it seems that America is still a place based on revolution. Boston
Tea Party, Freedom of the Colonies ? The rabid (ish...ok) gun / survivalist lobby in the
US. The myth of the American hero, killing off the very thing that could teach him something
while simultaneously laying the ground for a peculiar hybrid form of different races living
together in occasional harmony called 'American Democracy'.
What could change, you NEO'S ?
Monkey See...
> Condi Barbie...
Can I do the music video ?
DJBarney
That last anonymous post was me....DJBarney !
I actually put in the blogger name and password....damn thing :-]
DJBarney
Good insight DJ
Soma and Ecstasy connection .. generation ...gap....
ericswan...
> Good insight DJ
> Soma and Ecstasy connection .. generation ...gap....
Well, is'nt it ? That book, Brave New World...mmmmmm.
Remember the bit in it when the main character is describing the 'difficult'
feelings he is having to his girlfriend...and she is like "just take this".
While 'the other half' suffer in starvation and war "You don't have to feel
guilty or bad"..."Just take this".
This is what we're living with.
DJBarney
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