Tuesday, April 18, 2006
Science of Measurement
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by Guest Blogger - The Fool
"Everything we are and are made of, is measured. From our birth to our graves... what an insight!" - Jasgrave333
That is quite an insight indeed. But how many of us stop and think about measurement and what it entails. Science bases its very existence on it and claims that from this “objective” process all things can be identified, classified and explained. Without measurement, the Church of Science’s foundation would crumble. Objectivity would be lost. But upon examination of The Science of Measurement, we find that it is not only, not objective, but that human consciousness, imagining and creativity are the sources and driver of ALL things, including science’s precious trump card. A book I read in 1994, Physics as Metaphor written by Roger Jones, changed my perception forever about “objective reality”. I have picked out excerpts from the book that best illustrated to me how non-objective, objective science is.
Roger Jones defines a metaphor as “an evocation of the inner connection among things: it’s an act of consciousness that borders on the very creation of things, blurring the distinctions between them, even between them and their names.” He thinks of metaphor in a “larger context in where all things are connected to one another in an underlying unity. When one uses metaphor to juxtapose to apparently unlike things, they are not only referring to a symbolic or apparent connection between the things, but it is hinting at the very creative act itself which underlies all naming and evoking processes.” And whether we know it or not, that creative act applies to EVERYTHING that occurs in our lives. For us there seems to be existence, structure, differentiation, space and time. And as he points out, “we experience the manifestation with its variety and multiplicity, but we only remotely sense the underlying unity or don’t recognize it at all. Scientists often use creative analogies and comparisons to extend theories and even make new ones. The deceptiveness of science comes when metaphors become crystallized and abstract, cut off from their roots in consciousness and forgotten by their creators, and they become idols. An idolator is not so much one who creates idols, but one who worships them.”
He also points out that “as long as our own participation in creating metaphors to separate and differentiate the different aspects of unity remains unconscious, the world will continue to sustain us. But as soon as we acknowledge our unaccustomed creative role, the supporting scaffolding structure evaporates and we fall. Our mapping of and control over the physical world has so beguiled us that we no longer sense, as did the ancients, any connection between the psychological, spiritual elements of our inner world and the inert, mechanistic elements of the external world. Nor do we see them as different aspects of an underlying unity.”
This is the biggest schism that Western society faces, in my opinion. Science has done such a great job of instilling the belief that everything that “exists” is separate and that is why we are so devoid of connection to the Great Chain of Being. It is much easier to justify lining our pocketbooks at the expense of others, raping the land and its resources, and using military might to force ones beliefs on others when that connection to Unity is forgotten. Perhaps this is not an accident. Citizens of countries that engage in such behavior are much more likely to allow such atrocities to happen if they are ignorant of the fact that when they are perpetrated against other entities in the Chain of Being, they are also perpetrated against themselves. We ARE our brother’s keeper, but science is complicit in concealing that fact. In that respect science is a great tool for keeping the masses “in the dark”.
Roger Jones states that “the scientized concepts of space, time, matter and number should be explored as metaphors, expressing the human need and ability to create meaning and value. Those metaphors have an intuitive, mythic, life-giving character which completes and enhances their quantitative meaning and which is motivated by basic human fears and yearnings. It is the fear of death and chaos that gives the metaphors of science their modern lifeless character.” His purpose in writing the book was “to explore the subjective side of the metaphors of physics-their metaphysics, psychology, and ethics-with the dual purpose of illuminating the human quest for meaning, the role of science can be reevaluated and reoriented.” To do that he, “first finds it necessary to discredit the dogmatic belief that is held that science is strictly objective. It is useless to seek the seeds of space and time in the human mind without first loosening the firm grip that 3 centuries of scientific indoctrination has had upon us. Objective measurement is subjective by its very nature and science’s ability to predict and generalize comes from the stacking of the scientific deck of knowledge.”
In his view, “the heart of modern idolatry is quantification-the world reduced to quantities and the relationships between them, the belief that the quantitative description of things is paramount and even complete in itself. Physical science persuades us to disregard, devalue and even deny that which cannot be measured and to act as though such things as love, life, optimism, wonder, and beauty do not matter much in an objective description of reality.”
It is this mentality that is the biggest limitation of science. Subjects like ESP, telekinesis and UFO’s can never be examined because they can’t be “objectified”. Scientists who are honest with themselves will realize that in any discovery, it is not the objective that drives research. It is their FEELING that there are on the right track It is something that RESONATES deep within them. In fact, some of the greatest innovations came from the scientists or inventors dreams. I don’t know of a single person who can call their dreams objective.
Jones continues, “The Western idolatrous notion of an objective world, independent of our “minds”, is sustained by the qualitative, subjective feel of our senses, corroborated by objective measure. The raw data of the senses is largely interpreted in terms of a construct of reality based on the measurement of physical properties. Years of conditioning have established and reinforced the physical, spatial interpretations we make-a long process of indoctrination that is extremely difficult to recognize as such and which plays quite a useful role. It makes possible the hand-eye coordination of sense data that enables us to live an efficient, ordered life. Without that, life would be chaos, unintelligible and unnegotiable. It would be a schizophrenic nightmare, the experience of an infant mind, or perhaps even of death.”
As the scientific constructs of space, time, matter and number are examined, by Jones, “it becomes obvious that there is an imaginative character of those metaphors and that their quantitative and qualitative sides are inseparable, and that there is an essential human element even in the coldest, most objective and external of scientific concepts. Quantitative description is not only incomplete, but at its heart, ultimately subjective.”
In the next installment, I will show how Roger Jones breaks down space, time, matter and number and I will give his examples of how the human element comes into play in each of them. My hope is, like me, you won’t see science in the same light again.
posted by Anonymous at 4/18/2006 12:22:00 PM
324 Comments:
What an interesting evening and morning of posts. (from the comments in the last blog)
Boh, and Eric, Wayne and others,
Good posts and interesting questions and answers. THAT is FSHOD! As the wife sometimes says, "KEEP IT UP"! ;)
Seeing all the activity of the Agents of Dissuasion, I must continue to take the stance that SOMEONE doesn't want us asking the questions we're asking. And on that basis I, WE, will and must continue to ask questions.
Fellow Shoddies,
Have faith, seek knowlege, ask questions, demand truth....that's all we can do! AND it is the very best weapon we have. Do not be dismayed by the 'white noise' you see here, dear readers. Truth is being rendered and disclosed here almost daily. It may not be obvious, it may require the ability to see thru the chiaroscuro so deftly deployed by those who truly fear. And what they fear is YOU, your thinking brain and the power that YOU represent.
As long as FSHOD is here, we will be plagued by a planned and executed programme of dyzinformatya, in all it's forms. And we will be plagued by idiots and people for whom there is no room at the asylum. IGNORE IT! Do not descend to their level, Let not your hearts and spirits be troubled. One day, we will prevail!
And when we do, you can bet that there will be some pain-in-the-asses like us, waiting in the wings, DEMANDING truth and justice! Or so we can only hope. :)
LOL, LDA! Jas, they should use your 333 skull&bones logo for the cover of that 'Numbers' game...hell, just use YOUR pic!
Yeah, Fool, that came out nice, thanks. Stay Tuned for part II, folks!
Space, Time and Matter. The (not a) Fool's timely post on a subject that actually landed me at the TEM way back in 1998. Blame it on Yahoo!. Googlebot wasnt grokked yet.
Quote from the Roger Jones snippets :"This is the biggest schism that Western society faces, in my opinion. Science has done such a great job of instilling the belief that everything that “exists” is separate and that is why we are so devoid of connection to the Great Chain of Being.
Nikola Tesla, the Russian psychotronics research in mind-space-matter control and Remote Viewing, Chinese Qi Gong, Reiki, Acupuncture, Japanese Aikido and Sony Corp's experiments in using the mind to control electronic equipment.
All these entities, came from the other side of the Atlantic. Or should I use a big brush, Eastern Philosophies.
The Force as an underlying principle guides mystic Sufism, Tibetan Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam. The One-ness of the physical and spiritual realm, and the control can we have over different planes / dimensions of existence. Without space or time constraints. With much practice, of course.
Ideas pooh-poohed by mainstream Western Science, which chooses to mutilate the Maxwell Equations for electromagnetic theory.
I like this blog article by The Fool, because it is going to show just how much Western Science has deviated from the Truth that has been in circulation in Asia for thousands of years.
(aside: The Force as One Love?)
Waiting for Part 2, TF. Great post!!!
ATTENTION ALL HANDS
Arrrrrgh, mi hearties. Certain liberties have been taken that affect the welfare of the Crewe and this vessel by the Scarvy Dawg Bio_Unit. A certain Crewe-member has called for the vote...on his head be it!
Does Bio_Unit walk the Plank? You decide. Vote on the FSHOD page.
Somebody, toss a bucket of chum the starboard....and you there, fetch the plank! Prepare to call the Crewe to quarters. Arrrrrrrgh!
One should read "Who Built the Moon" by Christopher Knight and Alan Butler and one would find that the 'Megalightic Yard' has its roots in ancient atiquity and is personified and made manifest in the movements and size of the Earth-Moon-Sun as seen by humans since ancient times...BUT...is only IDEALLY realized in this present time frame.
The Megalithic systems of geometry is based on 366 degrees to a circle, sixty minuets to a degree and sixty seconds to a minute. As a seperate reference confirmation the 4,000 year old Minoan 'foot' is 1,000th part of a Megalithic second of arc.
One would have to read the book to fully appreciate how this measuring system kind of CONFIRMS the artificiallity of the Moon hypothesis and its placement in orbit about the Earth in a precise manner.
Now...to some other issues:
Sword...again good to know you're still alive n breathing.
Bohemia 371, I tried Cornell NY searches but can't find 'sonogram' data re the Iapetus measurements. Secondly since sonogram would be via SOUND...HOW can you measure that in vacuum????
Bob...:D
http://commonsensecentral.blogspot.com/
V,
Oh, there ain't nothing we can do. But someone, who thinks BU's being treated unfairly, thought that the decision to BSHOD and otherwise exclude BU was being made too unilaterally on my part, so I got fed up being made out to be some sinister character that I'm not, so now we'll have a vote.
The best that can happen is that the vote shows BU the general disapproval with his behaviour and that he then changes his ways.
The worst that can happen is that the vote shows BU the general dissapproval with his behaviour and that he then refuses to change his ways and keeps doing the same horseshit. In which case, nothing changes.
Hi Bob, always a pleasure to see you.
I don't know the answer to your interesting question but, well, aren't we able to listen to the 'music of the spheres', here on earth? Not sure 'bout the sonogram business. I'll wait for Boh! ;)
I'm going to re-read this one with great pleasure. This is the sort of thing I have thought for years and ran up against whenever I tried to talk about the paranormal to those obsessed with measurement.
Th Fool, A1 blog my friend, Ya Know! ...and others will in time.
Tough stuff to articulate, as I am finding. Good Job, I'll re-read your work again. Thanks.
latter_days-aint,
have you seen the gif animation of the Earth Moonlet 3753 Cruithne?
Quite awesome for a body that has apparently NO direct gravitational relationship to us, yet has 1:1 resonance.
Oh, and its pattern was more flower than fruity. :)
Good info by the way , thanks. Staying Tuned, watching the numbers, watching the codex.
Subjectively informed.
ssl4000g- hey bud, got your post, then lost my notepad during a crash.
Re: Embassy-Baghdad.
Sword tweeked about Iraq and earlier about the museum looting that was so pro tied into what else they wanted to control in Iraq beyond Oil and then boom!, story about collosal embassy project with mega excavation behind huge cement walls of 104 acres. A nice very big dig.
In the middle East, you dig anywhere and you come up with stuff. Remember the Dead sea scrolls? If I remember that was an easy find. Now the story of the Judas papers. A lot of happenstance finds in other words.
I had a seen a few other great examples from my Persian Rug days along the same lines of blind discovery of many things buried in the sands.
Sword,
Assiniboine? Lakota, Nakoda? iow the Sioux
Mount Assiniboine in BC? How about Winnipeg?
That was too small a crumb.
Universe recognizes no number only.
Monkey Wrench
Monkey Wrench, I just came back from a rather nostalgic cruise of TEM and Drydock, and I gotta say this:
Come ON! You can do better than THAT! You were spewing physics at TEM :)
Definately keep BU here. He's been making incredible sense, these last few pages.
MW
Never pasted anything before.
I'll try this... it's not too long... and quite current.
China Using Artificial Rain to Clear Dust
Apr 18 3:17 PM US/Eastern
By JOE McDONALD
Associated Press Writer
BEIJING
Beijing will use artificial rainmaking to clear the air after a choking dust storm coated China's capital and beyond with yellow grit, prompting a health warning to keep children indoors, state media said Tuesday.
The huge storm blew dust far beyond China's borders, blanketing South Korea and reaching Tokyo.
The storm, reportedly the worst in at least five years, hit Beijing overnight Sunday, turning the sky yellow and forcing residents to dust off and hose down cars and buildings.
Hospitals reported a jump in cases of breathing problems, state television said.
The government was preparing to seed clouds to make rain to clear the air, state TV said, citing the Central Meteorological Bureau. It did not elaborate, and the bureau refused to release more information.
Storms carrying chalky dust from the north China plain hit Beijing every spring, but newspapers said this week's was the heaviest since at least 2001. The Beijing Daily Messenger said 300,000 tons of sand and dust were dumped on the city Monday.
That was "definitely one of the most serious pollution days in Beijing," weather forecaster Yang Keming said, according to the China Daily newspaper. "Small children had better stay at home during such days."
The dust reached Tokyo on Tuesday, the first time that has happened in six years, said Naoko Takashina of Japan's Meteorological Agency. Dust from China was found in more than 50 locations throughout the country, she said.
The Japanese agency warned of reduced visibility but did not say any health dangers were expected.
In South Korea, a light layer of dust blanketed the country, but no ill effects were reported. Rain was forecast overnight Tuesday, and the weather bureau said it should clear the air.
The dust storms are expected to last through at least Wednesday in Beijing, neighboring Tianjin and a swath of north China stretching from Jilin province in the northeast through Inner Mongolia to Xinjiang in the desert northwest, the China Daily and other media said.
That region is home to hundreds of millions of people.
More storms were expected later in the week in Xinjiang and other parts of the northwest, according to news reports.
China's government has been replanting "green belts" of trees throughout the north in an effort to trap the dust after decades when the storms worsened amid heavy tree-cutting.
Last week, the western Xinjiang region was hit by its worst sandstorm in decades, which killed one person and left thousands stranded after sand covered railways and high winds smashed train and car windows.
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Associated Press reporters Chisaki Watanabe in Tokyo and Bo-mi Lim in Seoul, South Korea, contributed to this report.
When you get sick of being sick, you stop being sick.
The sage has gotten sick of being sick, therefore he is no longer sick!
Lao Tzu
Something, Lao tzu. ;)
Anonymous,
OH! Bohemia has NOT been abandonded? BSHOD to you!
Hate really takes my energy away. Just so there is no confusion I copied yesterday's blog to my hard drive. Not impressed. Not one little bit. But from every cloud comes that "silver" lining.
I have yet one more proposal for the crewe to think about. I am posting a link to a website that offers all the benefits and none of the drawbacks of Blogger.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/login.php
Anyone can get into the blog but only members can write a reply to a blog after X number of visits after which time, a committee decides if that particular blogger can submit an article to the blog.
Anyone in a person non gratis situation will lose their "privelege" of "reply" or their "privelege" of posting an article.
This site works. Multiple threads with huge potential for links and graphics and it's free.
My vote.. FSHOD...battens down the hatches. The ship has room for all but the "plank" is real.
Fool,
Your blog rang true to me. Almost to the point of DUH!(slaps head :) We always talk about the unity and continuity of our own presence here at FSHOD. The closest thing we come to numbers is our polls. Nice job, looking forward to part 2. I will re-read for clarity.
Wayne
So noted, Eric. thanks!
Subjects like ESP, telekinesis and UFO’s can never be examined because they can’t be “objectified”.
What about Bio's UFO sound ? Isn't that an "object?"
What about Dr. Leir's alien implants?
no,
Nice work, that blog article ya wrote.
While reading, I recalled someone said somathing like: "...the table exists only because we agree it does...we simply forgot that that's the deal...if we all remembered the agreement, there would be no floor beneath our feet"
Maybe there'd be no feet either ?
Great article, nf
Looking forward to more
uni
Apr 18, 2006
Sunspot Penumbra Shock Astrophysicists
Textbook theory of sunspot activity faces new difficulties posed by the magnetically confined structures of the penumbra. The old idea that the penumbra filaments are “convection currents” must now give way to new evidence that electric currents dominate these solar structures.
We can thank the “Astronomy Picture of the Day” folks for the two images above. They are from a brief sequence that can be viewed as a movie by clicking here. The movie shows the sunspot in false-color images from different heights above the surface or photosphere. The first image (upper image in the picture above) shows the Sun's photosphere as it normally appears, covered with granules. The large dark sunspot sports a clear dark umbra in the center through which we can peer into the cooler region beneath the surface. Surrounding the sunspot is the lighter penumbra, composed of rope-vortices rising explosively from beneath the surface. In the linked movie, the images appearing toward the middle of the sequence show what is occurring a few hundred kilometers above the photosphere, as the twisted filaments of the penumbra begin to spread out horizontally.
The last image of the sequence (lower image above) shows the Sun at a few thousand kilometers into the chromosphere, the layer of the Sun’s atmosphere just above the photosphere. Here we see the “ropes” of the sunspot penumbra extending outward into a surrounding maze of filaments, all constrained by the complex magnetic fields that have so amazed and enchanted solar physicists in recent years.
For decades, the standard model of the Sun treated the penumbra filaments as “convection cells”, columns of hot gases transporting heat from the interior to the surface. Astrophysicists formulated such concepts while under the spell of gravity and familiar gas laws. Seeing the Sun as an isolated island in space, they had no other tools to work with.
But proponents of the Electric Universe assert that there are no isolated islands in the universe. They contend that concepts of simple heat transport are alien to the plasma discharge behavior evident in sunspot activity. As Wallace Thornhill observed, the penumbra filaments “bear no resemblance to any known form of convection in a hot gas, magnetic fields or no”.
So we pose the question: what is controlling the behavior of the penumbra in these pictures—magnetic fields or gas laws? The new profile of the solar atmosphere has left the astrophysicists in a state of ambivalence. The APOD folks do not describe the network of interacting filaments as “convection cells”. They say simply, “Here magnetic field lines can be clearly followed outward from the sunspot to distant regions”. That is not the behavior of convection cells!
The problem is that now the solar physicists appear to have fallen under the spell of another popular fiction—that science can appropriately discuss magnetic fields without concerning itself with the cause. Now the refrain is, “Just look at all those twisted magnetic fields!” The solar “experts” have forgotten first principles: only electric currents produce magnetic fields. Yes, the complex magnetic fields are there, and they are the predictable effect of “anode tufting” or secondary discharging above the positively charged sphere in a glow discharge.
While the electric model of the Sun remains to be elaborated in important details, sunspot activity is eminently suited as a critical test. Where should one look for evidence of electron currents flowing into the Sun? If, as Thornhill claims, the sunspot is the opening through which discharge currents pass from the more negatively charged torus around the Sun, then sunspot activity should be investigated systematically with an entirely new vantage point in mind.
Unipax:
I thought about that as well. My thought is that we arrived here with a certain amount of programming, artificial intelligence so to speak. When we were first set upon this earth, we would have had no knowledge/experience to draw on to “realize” that that was a rock, a tree, etc. We have built in “instincts”. Our knowledge and experiences seem to pass down through the generations, through DNA programming perhaps? You can see this in other species more readily; the parent gains knowledge, and somehow “instinctively” the siblings have this knowledge without it being taught by the parent. The theory that “we could be someone else’s toilet bowl” also opens up a whole new concept.
Sorry TF: Great Blog. A lot to absorb.
Hersh: Joint Chiefs Opposed to Iran Nuke Attack, Members of Congress Gung-Ho
A new report by Seymour Hersh finds that senior Bush administration officials are developing plans for a massive attack on Iran which could include nuclear weapons. Hersh points out that the Joint Chiefs of Staff — a panel of the highest-ranking military officials from each branch of the U.S. armed services — are strenuously opposed to the plan, so much so that some have threatened to resign if it goes forward:
[A] Pentagon adviser on the war on terror…confirmed that some senior officers and officials were considering resigning over the issue. “There are very strong sentiments within the military against brandishing nuclear weapons against other countries,” the adviser told me. “This goes to high levels.” The matter may soon reach a decisive point, he said, because the Joint Chiefs had agreed to give President Bush a formal recommendation stating that they are strongly opposed to considering the nuclear option for Iran. “The internal debate on this has hardened in recent weeks,” the adviser said. “And, if senior Pentagon officers express their opposition to the use of offensive nuclear weapons, then it will never happen.”
But such advice hasn’t fazed the ultra-hawkish members of Congress, who now refuse to accept any plan that doesn’t include the use of nuclear weapons:
A senior member of the House Appropriations Committee…said that no one in the meetings “is really objecting” to the talk of war. “The people they’re briefing are the same ones who led the charge on Iraq. At most, questions are raised: How are you going to hit all the sites at once? How are you going to get deep enough?” (Iran is building facilities underground.) “There’s no pressure from Congress” not to take military action, the House member added. “The only political pressure is from the guys who want to do it.” … “These politicians don’t have a clue, and whenever anybody tries to get it out”—remove the nuclear option—“they’re shouted down.”
While senior military officials oppose the use of nuclear weapons, Hersh’s sources add that the idea “has gained support from the Defense Science Board, an advisory panel whose members are selected by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.”
The Fool who is no fool said: "In his view, “the heart of modern idolatry is quantification-the world reduced to quantities and the relationships between them, the belief that the quantitative description of things is paramount and even complete in itself. Physical science persuades us to disregard, devalue and even deny that which cannot be measured and to act as though such things as love, life, optimism, wonder, and beauty do not matter much in an objective description of reality.”"
starshipconstellation adds: When this belief in measurement becomes dogma, look out. But then, whose measurement? Look what happened to the Mars probe where one set of people working on it used inches and the other used centimeters. As Emeril would say, BAM! Probe splatters all over the Martian landscape creating a nice junkpile.
That incident aside, dogma in any form, tends to be the insturment of devaluation. When once flexible ideas are allowed to fossilise by the high priests who claim guardianship of knowledge, the world becomes an automatically smaller place. You then have the current problem at NASA in which challenges to the scientific rigor mortis are met with not just resistance but also with aggressive censorship. Yet those same high priests of science sneer at their ancestors for doing the sort of things as was done to Galileo and Copernicus and routinely do the equivalent everyday to their own questioning colleagues.
imagine THAT, fool! lol!
other side of the pacific said...
A lot to absorb
It's nothing but hot air and fancy talk - and it is ILLOGICAL !!
http://eastsouthwestandnorth.blogspot.com/
I hope this takes your mind off what you read in the funny papers.
eric, I may be wrong, but I think that was an OSOTP imposter.
I am looking at waking up a few more people to what it is we are facing down the road. I think December 20 would be a good date for world wide protest with 2012 or 20 day 12 month and 6 anniversaries arriving at "Ascension". If you have time for an extremely long post on chemtrails and really want to know the WTF... read it..
http://eastsouthwestandnorth.blogspot.com/
yeah T, didn't sound right. I PMd OSOTP.
Sunking..this prolly should be something we can fix and with the talent we have here, it shouldn't be a long time coming. I have no problem leaving this site up and active but it has become apparent that the system has its failings and maybe, just maybe we should do something about that.
Ms. T. said...
Sk
I was thinking the same thing, that the OSOTP posts were an imposter. Didn't sound like OSOTP at all.
Evening to ya Crew
T
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Thanks all. while said imposter was busy at the keyboard, i was feeding my kid breakfast (+13 hours remember?)
Jesus, the length some ass* will go to spoil this place!
p/s hey imposter, good post on the Joint Chiefs thingy. They shouldnt resign in disgust. They should get sacked, and then take their case to the ground troops.
"You say you want a revolution, weeell you know, we all want to change the world." Beatles.
The funny papers..ie..mass media..HMMMMM?
The Fool said...
Ericswan said....
> I hope this takes your mind off what you read in the funny papers <
That's high praise Eric, thanks soooo much. Teach me to be cool please!
Fool...I am not the teacher you seek.
Hello all.
Great post TF, very interesting read.
My thoughts went many places in reading,
nice job! I think The Author's viewpoint
is extremely valuable although I think
he does what many science writers do,
over amplify his idea while flogging his examples of wrongdom. There are
many examples of his main point. The ultimate burrito
for many scientists and mystics is getting into the synthisis of everything.
The relationships in all things should be pondered, labored over, re-examined anew
and leads to amazing growth. That growth should be seen in regular posters with large
yellow hazards but alas some do get bogged down and like to chew on their own entrails
in public. All things in their own time I guess. My vote is take a pansy walk
down tha plank !!! Give him a chance to make an apology post, a sincere one
perhaps. I'll be happy to kick 'im in tha ass right off tha slimy plank and we
won't pull him up till he's got hypothermia-then we'll ask him how smart he feels!
ARRRghhhhhhhhhhh !!!
Anyways TF, thanks for the post again, sends me mind streaming into fields of thought, finding
connections.
Great posts of late Ion, Swo, boh, sun, Foo, et allll minus some interestin' swarms of
putrescense.
Clan great to see yah. My question has been from a post of yours not so long ago...really...?
Q: How is the gridwork you mention differ from that of Bruce Cathies? Could his
'software for a fee' work for the modeling? According to Cathie (as I see it) the magnetic
motor I am now participating in building CANNOT work consistently -it might work today but
it won't tomorrow unless I move to this specific location. Well I'm off to check progress,
make plans for a scientific 'project' I'm not trying to make money, sell it, huckster it,
or even recommend anyone else try it, nope I won't do that! ! Over unity >>>==! >>>==! >>>==!
6 power plants are extracting cold energy from the vacuum of BU's
brain right now! YES 6 power plants at over unity in Switzerland RIGHT NOW!!! The dirty oil
bastards should be scared!
It is not my contention that my vote to boot BU is objective, simply that I'm a pissed off
pirate!
Arggghghhhhhhhhh to BU ((( PUNT )))
...but just a mouse about my little science inconsequential lightning project, hee hee.
Bohemia, thanks for some interesting information and those images!
Right there, right here! *smile and a toast*
Bryan gone tinkering ... in this system energy is only used for a fraction of a
millisecond... there is no loss of energy in the system... ...in a uni-directional
staccato fashion. The true Tesla circuit very much resembles a pulsejet where no
back pressure ever stops the onrushing flow. Electrostatic charge rises to a maximum,
and is discharged MUCH MORE QUICKLY... ...Ed Gray liked to refer
to it as 're-creating lightning' ... hee hee said with derision "FREE ENERGY""
One love to the crew off to a garage near you!
synthissis too
Cameras are going up as we "speak".
BU.. you dont got what it takes to be a T'zmet quality personna.
Sword:
I'll bite, Ark of the Covenant, Chamber of the Gods?
starshipconstellation said;
"That incident aside, dogma in any form, tends to be the insturment of devaluation. When once flexible ideas are allowed to fossilise by the high priests who claim guardianship of knowledge, the world becomes an automatically smaller place. You then have the current problem at NASA in which challenges to the scientific rigor mortis are met with not just resistance but also with aggressive censorship."
I still wonder, re; aggressive censorship, what is really being suppressed. The real results? Maybe some great discovery that will change the world for the better? What are they hiding? That still nags at me. We've gone from aggressive science and exploration to drop a probe here and there all the while controlling the data releases. WTF?
On Nova last night, the show was about global dimming and global warming. They presented global dimming as actually slowing warming because of all the pollutants in the atmosphere. They used the 3 days around Sept 11 as a sort of control to measure the temp variations (diff between hi and low) since there was no air traffic. And they found that the temp swing was significantly greater than when there were pollutants in the air.
They showed contrails, as we call them chemtrails, as contrils only. Also shown was a sat view of SoCal with trails everywhere. These were attributed to pollutants from the plans in proper contrail inducing conditions. Hence, the need to use the 3 Sept 2001 days as a control of sorts. Interesting. Still, info overload from all directions, the truth is out there and the lie is different on every level. The Nova show painted a very grim picture of the next 50 years.
Now we got a t'zemt poser, too funny!
Wayne
T'zemt poser BSHODed...along with the same 'imBposUter's' other fake posts. Despite DjB's sooth injunctions against Big Pharma, 'someone' (George?) SHOULD be taking his meds...or go see the good doctor before he becomes a threat to his community...or to himself?
I really pity you, BU...what a sordid existence you must lead, being awake when others are in bed, expending your life's energy thru hate and childish behavior. Are you in pain? Or is this all a result of the mental abuse you suffered from Mum and Dad? Have you been married? Did Wifey leave you, too? It didn't last long, did it? The marriage, that is.
Pity. Pity. Pity.
(If this is confusing to any readers, don't worry or concern yourself. Realize that the posts from the poster calling himself Biological_Unit (when he's not using some other anonymous name to hide behind) should simply be ignored and do not reflect the thoughts, ideals or nature of the majority of the people here. We welcome you! Unless you are another schizoid not taking your meds...we do not need another.)
V, et al,
WHY, do we really care?
Again folks, some radio talk show hosts will NOT allow the discussion about abortion, because they know the nuts that will come out of the woodwork on both sides.
I feel the same here about Jews/Zionism. Read the FSHOD main page about what this blog is about. It is NOT about Jews or Zionism, please. That should be for a blog set up for that purpose and that purpose only, because there will be no time for anything else there. Go create your own blog for that, people.
Nothing personal, V...don't mean to embarrass you or make you a focal point, so do forgive. Let's focus on Space and Science or the Davinci Code.....ANYTHING else, please.
And feel free to BSHOD yourself, there.
Wayne...thanx for the post about NOVA. missed it..damn..
Sunking...couldn't agree with you more..As far as I'm concerned, Protocols of the Sons of Zion is way down my list of "things to do" with my time.
Sword...Starship was talking about coriander and it's relationship to bdellium being manna in the last blog. I think you're on to something. Someone (contractors unknown..Halliburton) is collecting fossils. That's why Shell has a shell for a symbol.. Lots of marine fossils in an oilfield. As far as Iran goes, do you really think Bush has the pajamas to go into Iran? Wouldn't that be just a bit over the "Top"?
V,
Thanks, pal! BTW, Almost all your other posts have been interesting and/or funny. Pray continue.
Eric,
Thanks.
I must have missed something along the line here. If Sword is on to something, what is it? I haven't seen him say anything substantive...just ask leading questions. But then, you see the effects of attention distractors, eh?
Well, looks like we'll have a new WH Liar. Good, was tired of seeing McClellans face. Put a new scoundrel in the job.
And Rove...yes, he needs time to work from his bag of dirty tricks. If you've never read about this louse, do so. You'll find ample reason to dislike him.
Better go look at this Kaplan chap's background.
Thanks for the head's up, V...'twas news to me! :)
That would suit Big Oil and Big Auto just right, V. Agree with your analysis.
lol.
For those of you who like to take polls,a form of scientific measurement, this is a good place for polls that cover a wide range of topics.
http://www.pollingpoint.com/index.html
SWORD--o.k. your just not giv'n er up are ya? :)
O.k. o.k. well I still don't get the bit about the ex-wife who was Assiniboine and how that is important enough to cut yourself off and I keep returning to the Horse Themes that are revealing themselves in many relevent ways, but I'll save that for later with a consideration about "Persepolis" in Southern Iran. ;)
What does come up for me with your very tiny bread crumb, is (ET) Ships again.
1.This link from you(?) was quite interesting and I specially liked the ship image-ya right artist's illustration! :) .
Is yours like that? If I remember...SS Dauntless was it?
But I specially liked the head-line from your link:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/exploration/mmb/antimatter_spaceship.html
New and Improved Antimatter Spaceship for Mars Missions
04.14.06
IonTruO2--Sounds like one of those periodic "TIDE" laundry commercials on TV---New and Improved!!!
...From an existing product...:0
A little more in a minute. My thought from your nudge is that after the Biblical Noah's flood, when the waters had settled, there had actually been a number of ships that had "retreated to orbit to wait out the deluge"(Sitchen-12th planet) before the returned as the story goes.
As fictionalized in the 'X-Files movie", I speculate there are ships buried in both Iran and Iraq maybe Turkey as well if one considers the stories about Mount Ararat.
It would be much better to work with a ship that is nicely intact instead of the examples like Rosewell(Col. Corso) that were products of a crash with a high measure of damage and destruction.
Backward engineering would be much more effective and this is definately NOT 1947 anymore. So perhaps our getting a grip on flying one of those ships could bring about an "Independence Day" of a different sort.
A few songs just come to mind with that thought thread.
1.Fools Overture-Supertramp
2.Come Sail Away-Styx
3.Red Rain-Peter Gabriel
4.Here Comes The Flood-Peter Gabriel
Know the lyrics and you'll know what I mean.
So where the heck is fruity ion floating in the clouds with this one, hmm?
Well, we have already seen quite a bunch of content re: anti-gravity(Naudin-Bearden etc) at our level and it sounds like our resident "really smart mad scientist-guy" :) Bryansail is rock'in in his lab towards an Over-Unity device. Some of you also saw that info about the Air Force anti-grav ship and test in the 70's that was sent around.
Bryansail-here's one for ya buddy!!!...and of course the CREW.
Kosols Anti-gravity Device
http://www.atlantisdivide.com/
Really, check it out!
So-more about anti-gravity and space ships and perhaps buried ET ones that aren't all beat up and 'broken'.
There now comes an interesting corelation that {{{JASGRAVE333}}}} will appreciate because you guessed it Du-Pont is behind it. Yes! The Company who made the Prohibition of Cannabis(their word-marihuana) in the first place. And yes, whilst at the same time destroying the world HEMP industry and the Global Natural Button trade which was garmently huge. Replaced by plastic buttons for all fashion, and "Polyester" for rope and fabrics and everything else under the sun. I digress...
Here is where they and some other notable people and companies join the story about anti-gravity and reverse engineering!
This is Breaking News at cyberspaceorbit.com
http://cyberspaceorbit.com/exotwood.htm
I offer two little excerpts that stood out for me: pardon me if may be BOLD: he he he!!
Daniel Hopsicker's recent book "Welcome to Terrorland" shows that Bush Jr.'s subordinates worked to prevent public awareness of narcotics trafficking surrounding the 9/11 hijackers' flight training in the small coastal city of Venice, Florida.
Apparently, numerous heroin flights preceded the arrest of two men caught with 43 pounds of heroin in the private jet of Wally Hilliard, a businessman with Bush family and CIA ties. The heroin was seized by DEA agents at Hilliard's small Venice, FL airport/flight school where 9/11 ringleaders Mohammed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi were training, at the time. How does this relate to Deep Throat?
For decades, FBI men like Mark Felt were pushed aside and told to shut up so that "intelligence"-related narcotics shipments could proceed into the United States unhampered, for national security reasons. But which "incredible" and "fantastic" covert project did such narcotics
trafficking point to?
The obvious answer, the only massive project that eclipsed Watergate on a major scale, is narcotics trafficking that SECRETLY FUNDS "REVERSE-ENGINEERED" BLACK BUDGET TECHNOLOGIES, some of which are truly bizarre. Which covert project back in 1971-2 was more important than
Watergate?
Government whistle-blower and former head of Air Force Project Pounce, Col. Steve Wilson, told researcher Dr Richard J Boylan that, "the FIRST SUCCESSFUL U.S. ANTIGRAVITY FLIGHT took place July 18, 1971 at S-4 (on Nellis Air Force base in Nevada), wherein light bending capabilities
were also demonstrated to obtain total invisibilities.
"Present at this flight were notables such as Admiral (Bobby Ray) Inman (former National Security Agency director), who is now head of SAIC
(Science Applications International, Incorporated) in San Diego, CA, which makes the antigravity drives."
{{{ion}}}--further along in the article:
...In 1971, when the first successful U.S. antigravity flight assured that manufacture of such technology would soon follow, a shady financier named Robert Vesco met and did business with Hughes' arch competitors in the Du Pont family just before Vesco escaped abroad with the looted IOS millions. The two Du Ponts sold a company called All American Aviation to Vesco, who was then known for mob ties. Shortly afterward, Vesco, who was short on cash at the time, took millions from All American's
accounts and used it to bankroll his looting of IOS' $224 million.
In other words, Du Pont money made the IOS looting possible. Vesco
consulted with mob financier Meyer Lansky's aides, Dino and Eddie
Celini, in Rome before looting IOS. In short, just before Nixon's 1972 re-election campaign and Watergate, Hughes (and Helms at the CIA) may have been betrayed, Hughes nearly bankrupted, by a Du Pont faction that was competing with a Hughes-Mellon-Rockefeller faction for control of
reverse-engineered antigravity technology.
Later the Hughes-Mellon-Rockefeller faction joined with Allied Chemical, the company that Katharine Graham's father had owned a major share in.
Within months, Richard Helms' Hughes-related CIA was maneuvering in ways that helped to expose the Watergate case, perhaps as revenge against Nixon, who had favored the Du Pont faction and Vesco over Hughes.
As a result of his big cash losses, Hughes' finances were crippled and Hughes Aircraft was soon taken over by Du Pont who controlled General Motors. All of the reverse-engineered, antigravity technology that Hughes had been working on was apparently taken by Du Pont family interests. It was an aviation coup, of sorts, that involved the worst of organized crime. Those who haven't read about such subjects won't appreciate just how "fantastic" the further implications of the Mark Felt story actually are. Would Bob Woodward actually come right out and speak about such things?
IonTruO2--NOW HOW ABOUT THEM FRUITY APPLES?!
SWORD?--more bread crumbs for my apple crumble please. :)
Dang, Ion. WOW! Sounds so crazy it makes perfect sense!
V,
in light of that link to FOX news item that was "removed" about the spying isralies and the NSA, I find it very very curious.
Hi All,
Re: V's analysis of global warming etc.
There was an article in the NYTimes I believe that said just that. Someone from the EPA was quoted as saying that when the air was cleaned up in the 80's the dimming decreased and the sun penetrating rose dramatically to cause warming.
UP is DOWN.....DOWN IS UP
The games just keep getting more inane as time goes on.
And now we have....
THE GREAT DECIDER.....WTF.
All these guys sound like they escaped from some Jr.High reccess.
Here's an idea...Since Bush, Rumsfeld,Cheney, the pres. of Iran, the new PM of Palestine and Putin are such tough guys why not put ' em all together in one of those chainlink boxing rings like they use for ultimate fighting and let them kill EACH OTHER. then we can all get back to business without thier bullshit.
What a goldmine for pay per view.
mac
ericswan said: "Sword...Starship was talking about coriander and it's relationship to bdellium being manna in the last blog."
starshipconstellation is puzzled: Eric, I said no such thing. Someone must have quoted me on something else and then went on to talk about it. Same for seeing the NOVA programme. Wasn't me either, but Wayne was quoting something I did say in that post.
:-)
Mac,
No, no, noooo...have them duke it out in the Roman Coliseum, under the auspices of Il Papa. Eh?
Ion said:
Government whistle-blower and former head of Air Force Project Pounce, Col. Steve Wilson, told researcher Dr Richard J Boylan that, "the FIRST SUCCESSFUL U.S. ANTIGRAVITY FLIGHT took place July 18, 1971 at S-4 (on Nellis Air Force base in Nevada), wherein light bending capabilities
were also demonstrated to obtain total invisibilities.
----------
Say 5 years for stress testing and pilot familiarisation, I figure we have gone to Mars by 1980s, or maybe even before Viking landed.
With cloaking capability, we could have a whole f88king armada of these ships now parked at LEO, with HAARP as a comms centre, and no one would be the wiser!
Over to you, Robert ;)
p/s ALIEN 1 the movie: remember the Nostromo? Picture a giant billboard on its side saying "HALLIBURTON GALACTIC"....
LDA, coriander doesnt have any psychotropic effect :P Used to have a 10 foot tall plant, we used the leaves for curry. Give it a light fry to set off the aroma with the onions, ginger and garlic, then add the other ingredients.
Hinduism -> i think youre referring to goode ole J in India ;)
Even better SK.I like that idea. It could be a worldwide event. Thumb down for the loser(s).
other side of the pacific
you said...
Ion said:
Government whistle-blower and former head of Air Force Project Pounce, Col. Steve Wilson, told researcher Dr Richard J Boylan that, "the FIRST SUCCESSFUL U.S. ANTIGRAVITY FLIGHT took place July 18, 1971 at S-4 (on Nellis Air Force base in Nevada), wherein light bending capabilities
were also demonstrated to obtain total invisibilities.
----------
Say 5 years for stress testing and pilot familiarisation, I figure we have gone to Mars by 1980s, or maybe even before Viking landed.
With cloaking capability, we could have a whole f88king armada of these ships now parked at LEO, with HAARP as a comms centre, and no one would be the wiser!
Over to you, Robert ;)
p/s ALIEN 1 the movie: remember the Nostromo? Picture a giant billboard on its side saying "HALLIBURTON GALACTIC"....
Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:09:16 PM
IonTruO2 BINGO! Glad you caught that. The plot is thickening.
As well, I have posted a number of times about the Earth Moon Lagrange Points and recently talked about the idea orbiting Trojan Horses or Arks(Noah like).
Really just playing off RCH's hints about Lapetus as an artificial body and other sources with his, about Phobos.
I find the complex orbits of our Earth Mini-moons, Cruithne3753 and AA29 to be curious and thus thought about Sitchen's story about retreat to orbit during the Deluge(Noah's Flood).
I considered seriously Toffler's visioning of the L4 and L5 Points being perfectly stable for an orbiting platform and at a 60 Degree angle gives us a look around the Sun as well. From that I spoke about the use of existing bodies for our use.
As there is nothing new under the Sun as they say here is an interesting link to a similar kind of proposal.
http://www.permanent.com
great thoughts and links today crew, thanks !
uni
The weather, climate, and air quality satellite, CloudSat/Calipso, scheduled for launch sometime between 20 - 23 April, will eventually be brought to failure at the overbearing urgings of members in the Bush administration according to a close personal contact at NASA HQ in Washington, D.C.
For future reference remember the "stifling," firing, and threatening of the NASA climatologists, environmental researchers, and geologists.
CloudSat and the Cloud-Aerosol Lidar and Infrared Pathfinder Satellite Observation (CALIPSO) spacecraft will study the role that clouds and aerosols play in regulating Earth's weather, climate and air quality.
The average adult breathes more than 3000 gallons of air every day, and small particles in the air, aerosols, can affect our health and well-being.
Is "Bohemia" doing well?
iontruO2 said;
IonTruO2 BINGO! Glad you caught that. The plot is thickening.
As well, I have posted a number of times about the Earth Moon Lagrange Points and recently talked about the idea orbiting Trojan Horses or Arks(Noah like).
Really just playing off RCH's hints about Lapetus as an artificial body and other sources with his, about Phobos.
I find the complex orbits of our Earth Mini-moons, Cruithne3753 and AA29 to be curious and thus thought about Sitchen's story about retreat to orbit during the Deluge(Noah's Flood).
I considered seriously Toffler's visioning of the L4 and L5 Points being perfectly stable for an orbiting platform and at a 60 Degree angle gives us a look around the Sun as well. From that I spoke about the use of existing bodies for our use.
As there is nothing new under the Sun as they say here is an interesting link to a similar kind of proposal.
http://www.permanent.com
Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:08:23 PM
Dude, very very out of the box there! Including the post about anti grav 1971 etc. Not only possible but plausible! Sitchen again in our views.
"x",
Will keep the climatologists in mind per your request. :)
Wayne
I wonder when you Yanks get your first sniff at the blockbuster news of the day...
Russia says it will sell Iran all the Star Wars tech (read Tesla Shield) they want. They claim it will take out any f... thing that comes.. All Iran has to do is "pony" up..
And of course Bush says Nukes are on the table.. Well, their ain't no table cause it don't got legggs..
Thanks Latter Day..you're a saint.hehe..
You cleared up all my misappropriations and then hit me with everything I always wanted to know about coriander..
You have to wonder when the ship of state starts throwing crew overboard. Maybe they should keep a bailer or two. Me thinks something is up the pipe. Russia came out strong today. I heard a deal was in the works a couple of months ago but putting Tesla tech in the hands of the Iranians is just a bit too much. Bush is probably getting kickbacks from this deal. Iran pays the way with filthy oil and Russia splits the take. Nukes only work with celestial alignments and they can't be dropped from a plane. I'm sure Americans can get by with spy satellites and the little drones that Russia says they can take out matter nought.
I heard this report on CBC radio on my way home from work.
AkenGeorgeUnit
Please seek help for your lonely, unfulfilling existence. I hate to see people waste life.
This unfulfilled person made money sitting on my tuchas today just like yesterday.
Fool
i used to have a really good recipie for BBQ troll. Let me see if i can find it.
Where's Crypto ?
Where's Jas ?
You forge your chain of bondage link by link and yard by yard.
Don't pick a name like "Fool" and expect to hide your "Hasidic Gentile" status.
Is that Yul Brenner I see there:
"So let it be written, So let it be done"
I wish you'd prove him right.
How can I when I get deleted ?
If I said I converted to "Hasidic Gentile" can I rejoin this group of fake rebels ?
A Hasidic Jew walks into a bank in New York City and asks for the loan officer. He says he is going to Europe on business for two weeks and needs to borrow $5,000.
The bank officer says the bank will need some kind of security for such a loan, so the man hands over the keys to a new Rolls Royce parked on the street in front of the bank. Everything checks out, and the bank agrees to accept the car as collateral for the loan.
An employee drives the Rolls into the bank's underground garage and parks it there.
Two weeks later, the man returns, repays the $5,000 and the interest, which comes to $15.41.
The loan officer says, "We are very happy to have had your business, and this transaction has worked out very nicely, but we are a little puzzled. While you were away, we checked you out and found that you are a multimillionaire. What puzzles us is why would you bother to borrow $5,000?"
The Hasidic Jew replied, "Where else in New York can I park my car for two weeks for 15 bucks?"
Yisgadal Viyiskadash Shimay Rabbah......"
Russia
Russia will deliver air defense systems to Iran - top general
20:19 | 19/ 04/ 2006
MOSCOW, April 19 (RIA Novosti) - The chief of the General Staff said Wednesday that Russia would honor its commitments on supplying military equipment to Iran.
"We discussed supplies of military equipment to Iran, including the Tor M1, in the framework of bilateral cooperation, but it does not fall into the category of strategic weapons," Army General Yury Baluyevsky said after talks in Moscow with NATO Supreme Allied Commander in Europe General James Jones.
"And I can assure you it will be delivered under the control of the relevant organizations," he said.
At the end of 2005, Russia concluded a $700-million contract on the delivery of 29 Tor M1 air defense systems to Iran.
The Tor-M1 is a fifth-generation integrated mobile air defense system designed for operation at medium, low and very low altitudes against fixed/rotary wing aircraft, UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicle), guided missiles and other high-precision weapons.
Despite strong criticism from the United States, Russia has maintained that the systems could be used only to protect Iran's air space.
Baluyevsky also said Russia's Armed Forces would not be involved in any military conflict in Iran.
"I do not think the conflict [in Iran] will turn into a war," he said. "Russia will not propose the use of its armed forces in a potential military conflict on either side."
Baluyevsky said he did not discuss the Iranian nuclear program with Jones, although the issue is "on everybody's mind."
Meanwhile, Iran's Defense Minister, Mostafa Mohammad-Najar, said Wednesday that his country would go ahead with its non-military nuclear research because it was a legitimate right of the Iranian people.
The Iranian official is currently on a three-day visit to the neighboring Central Asian republic of Azerbaijan to discuss bilateral cooperation in the defense sphere.
Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, will attend a summit of Economic Cooperation Organization, a regional cooperation body, in the capital of Azerbaijan, Baku, on May 4-5.
Two yidn are in Shul and they are "davening "
But one of them is looking towards the womens'
sector ,because he saw there a woman that is very attractive.
The other yid says :
Kuk nisht tzu di froien . Dafst davenen .
The other returns to the prayer , but after a while he looks back towards the woman.
His friend is mad at him , and says :
Kuk nisht tzu di froien . HAINT IZ YOM KIPPER!
Then the other answers :
Bai mir in di oizn iz haint SIMJES TOIRE!
I'm and Orthodox Cowboy
I have an axe to grind and plenty of fury to turn the wheel
looks like your a ten per center..hmm. doubled up in 10 years eh?
Gentile = genitals
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:26:46 PM
V, Hi
V said...
Ion said:
Government whistle-blower and former head of Air Force Project Pounce, Col. Steve Wilson, told researcher Dr Richard J Boylan that, "the FIRST SUCCESSFUL U.S. ANTIGRAVITY FLIGHT took place July 18, 1971 at S-4 (on Nellis Air Force base in Nevada), wherein light bending capabilities
were also demonstrated to obtain total invisibilities.
----------
Ion,
Where did you get this from ? I remember Bob Lazar on the Art Bell show talking about how we had a SINGLE,CAPTURED ufo that was flown in the atmosphere only, for fear of losing it in space, as they did not know how it worked.
Was this the same craft or did your source specifically state that it was built here on Earth ?
Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:57:43 PM
iontruo2-That craft was a pretty clunky looking product of human making. Prototypes, you know, they get pretty later. :)
The above info can be viewed at:
http://cyberspaceorbit.com/exotwood.htm
and is from:
Daniel Hopsicker's recent book "Welcome to Terrorland"
Good Reading at the above link.
bryansail--6 plants already operating as over-unity devices?!
Of course Switzerland. Thats a very encouraging example, dude. May that seed grow, or I should say overgrow the western schism.
Dances in clouds
Where is Goldberg?
Sword:
Don't know - we passed the full moon cycle.
Care to answer what they are digging for in Iraq? Iran?
Sword,
You know nothing about this dig? 104 acres. Largest military complex in the world? I assumed you of all people would know about this.
:)))
Thanks for the links Iontruo2. Energy is everywhere.
It is time for the new. I wish I were that smart I
really do, but am much more of an ordinary joe which
should make any success building an EM circuit much
more compelling.
Anyone seen anymore about the company linked by blasted
a while back claiming the
huge jump in solar panel efficiency? Something like
80% efficiency gain combined with a lower cost in
manufacturing? That fire will be stomped I'm pretty
certain, maybe they'll be paid handsomely or snuffed.
There are more and more fires and hotspots requiring
stomping, soon there will be far too many
to contain.
The comments on dimming are interesting, I will keep an
eye out for that Nova show. I have noticed
of late that sunset images, some of them from Antartica
and other remote areas on the planet have
that thick orange haze that used to be reserved for smog laden cities
like Los Angeles. V your comment on the aerosol catch 22
is a bullseye.
and X that is grim, but the pattern is there. What a
disclosure! Hopefully someone will stand up in time
to stop it beforehand. These idjiots really should be
on trial.
-Bryan
Sward is teasing us with little dainty hors-d'ouevrs.
GET TO THE MAIN COURSE !
Bloggus Interruptus
which should make any success building an EM circuit much
more compelling.
Power (Watts) = Volts times Amps
Once you place a LOAD on your "phantasm" you will see your "energy" is nothing but Voltage WITHOUT AMPERAGE !!
I'm not like most here who BRAG about being ignorant of Science (specifically Electricity)
ericswan said...
Russia
Russia will deliver air defense systems to Iran - top general
20:19 | 19/ 04/ 2006
MOSCOW, April 19 (RIA Novosti) - The chief of the General Staff said Wednesday that Russia would honor its commitments on supplying military equipment to Iran.
-----------
In case anyone forgot, Iran has 2 fully equipped air forces; their own and Iraq's which flew over a day before Gulf 1.
Hi all...
Wow, I really missed a lot...
I saw the new poll, and I voted to keep biological_unit "alive" (though I'm not exactly sure what he did to merit "walking the plank")...
Anyway, I stopped by to tell y'all about this INCREDIBLE gallery of galaxies as seen through backyard telescopes! It's so strange to see them like that...
http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=3971&gid=286
I'll post again if I find some REALLY interesting stuff (like if they find an exact replica of Cydonia on Venus)...
John
BTW, I updated my blog (newenterprisecrewman.blogspot.com)
John
I'm not exactly sure what he did to merit "walking the plank"
I know exactly why I was banished.
I cannot say why because I would have to use a "Z" word.
My Website has been slightly upgraded:
HijackthatUFO.net
Shalom, biological_unit!
mazel tov! How was your Pesach?
mazel tov! How was your Pesach?
What an eccentric request !
I'm not a "Hasidic Gentile" with some "stake" in your religion.
God made everyone EQUAL - not what you believe.
mazel tov - nonetheless
God made everyone EQUAL
Even the "schwartzes".
That doesn't help them though, does it ?
biological_unit,
how is your gold, today?
:)
beautiful isn't it!
how is your gold, today?,
God's money.
With images of False Roman Gods on them.
Words of the Day:
PRINCEPS
SAVITUR
N.A.D.S. (North American Defense against Squirrels)
:)
;)
Bunker-Busters Readied; Iran Attack Near?
"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy." Henry Kissinger as quoted in the book "Kiss the Boys Goodbye".
Henry Kissinger
What a sweetheart !
If you ever need to carpet-bomb some villages he's the man !
Like others here have said: Why is this man not arrested?
tactical NUCLEAR weapons !!
NOOK-U-LAR
To be deployed to help Z'ism but will kill everyone.
At least their won't be any Anti-Semitism then !!
(but there won't be anyone around to celebrate)
There's stuff about Gray's Motor at Cyberspaceorbit.com. I often throw him cash (because I'm rich)
4/17/2006 12:05 PM
Al Francoeur writes: Good morning Everyone
Please pass this around to the energy groups for their thoughts on this find which changes the once thought known history of the developments of the EMA system with Edwin Gray.
Check out what I now have, it's the original motor generator that Edwin Gray used as part of his development of the EMA system. I now have the motor generator here that was left behind from when I first bought the EMA motors from the people in Texas.
Check out the links of Alexander's motor generator device. I have included a picture of his proto type machine which is shown. I only have two pages of his patent and the patent is also not available on the US patent office, it has been deleted. Hmmm, very interesting. After looking much further I found a place where I can get a copy of the patent and our good friend Jeanne Manning bought me the patent number 3,913,004, but it did not come from the US patent office because it is not on the US patent office web site..
http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/US03913004
http://geoffreyegel.tripod.com/alexand.htm
This motor generator is claimed to produce 1 to 3 over unity (if I can use the term). Turns out that I happen to have a Alexander motor generator here right now. The light blue start motor that Edwin Gray used to get the ema motors turning (shown on the jpeg file) is in fact an Alexander motor generator device shown in the jpeg picture.. Edwin Gray must have known of Alexander's motor generator or Alexander knew of Ed Gray's development. This proves a link between the two people and their work in which their patents that have been issued to them is also very close together. Edwin Gray used an Alexander motor generator in his research with these 3 pole ema motors, now it also may change the date of development being done on these motors because Alexander's patent was issued Oct, 14, 1975, which is after Ed Gray's patent of June 17, 1975. So did Edwin Gray have this Alexander motor generator before he got the patent for it or after? If he got the motor generator from Alexander after he got his patent, then the 3 pole ema motors I have may have been constructed after the number four - 9 pole ema motor. If Ed Gray got the Alexander motor generator before Ed Gray got his patent on June 17, 1975, then these 3 pole ema motors may have been developed before the 9 pole ema motor was constructed prior to 1974.
I have completely rebuilt the Alexander motor generator with new bearings and a new machined phenolic brush holding plate to replace the broken one. The machine looks bran new and is now the color of dark navy blue with black motor mounts, the brush ring assembly and rest of the motor is completely cleaned and ready to run.. Its looks great.
We now have an original (excellent shape) Alexander motor generator here complete with duel isolated primary and isolated secondary windings on the rotor and bifilar wound stator coils. You don't see many of these around anywhere, and everyone else seems to have over looked this device except me.
If anyone out there can shed more light on this fascinating suppressed technology please bring it on.
What do you think?
Al Francoeur
Inventor & reviving the EMA radiant energy system.
PS; I am getting many requests from allot of people asking me to reopen the alfenergy series of groups. I hear everyone and If all goes and everything is ok, then I may reopen the groups January 1, 2005 which is just over a month from now.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alfenergy/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alfvaporizer/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlyingSaucerMachines/
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Hi All,
Interesting claim, however as you say, the patent isn't on the USPTO website. Why is that? Also, the Delphion site shows only images of the first page, and the tripod site is down. An analysis of the patent would shed light on this subject. I must say that I've never found a patent to not be on the USPTO site, and I will e-mail them to find out why. If I find out anything significant, I'll e-mail you about it.
Have you verified the claim yourself Al, on your own motor? And with what methodology, might I ask? Too interesting! Please keep us posted, Al.
Have an excellent weekend everybody!
Yours truly,
Alfred Reaud
Independent Investigator
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Hello Bruce and Everyone else
Another fellow pointed me to a link toward the European Patent Office where it is there shown at one or both of these links.
http://l2.espacenet.com/espacenet/viewer?PN=US3913004&CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPD
http://l2.espacenet.com/espacenet/bnsviewer?CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPD&PN=US3913004&ID=US+++3913004A1+I+
Check it out if you have not seen the patent yet, which goes to show you how reliable the US patent office is doesn't it, and also which makes it very strange why it's on the European Patent Office and not the US Patent Office. I checked with the original copy I have here and it looks like it's all there except not in the same order. The US Patent Office suppresses the information in the patent and the European Patent Office still makes it available to the world.., HAH, what a twisted screwed up system we live in...
Have a nice weekend everyone.
Al Francoeur
Nu Energy Research Laboratories wrote:
Alfred,
I had no problem accessing the entire patent.
-Bruce P.
If the U.S. government has no knowledge of aliens, then why does Title 14, Section 1211 of the Code of Federal Regulations, implemented on July 16, 1969, make it illegal for U.S. citizens to have any contact with extraterrestrials or their vehicles?
BU..Your perceptions are not correct. I suspect you are not what you claim to be. You are not fighting Zionism you are feeding the "Fear Mechanism" that has been foisted on a small group of people the "Chosen" which feeds your masters who work in the nether dimension and live on fear for their sustenence. You are a pawn and a lazy one at that. I post you nod off. I quest you chase your tail. I reason you lick your dog's barf.
Th big picture George. Look at the big picture. Visit my blog. Read. Try to retain George. Make tomorrow a stand against your fetid yesterday.
You are not fighting Zionism you are feeding the "Fear Mechanism" that has been foisted on a small group of people the "Chosen" which feeds your masters who work in the nether dimension and live on fear for their sustenence.
So Zionists fear some "group".
That's the Zionists business.
My Master is the God of every EQUAL human being - NOT whatever it is that Zionism is !!
What proof do we need of God ? WHY WOULD HE ALLOW SUCH A RIDICULOUS SITUATION TO EXIST ??
Do you know any Muslim or Christian Pornographers ? No
Do you want to know why those in the Tribe think that this is a harmless money-making opportunity and yet whine about "being hated and opressed" ??
whine about "being hated and opressed"
Do some research BU
Think about leverage. Think about a people that have been tormented by the crap you have posted here. What would you do? Look for Linus' blanket?
Visit my blog. Read
It's a MF'en blog with words written by someone using "professional tricks to stay alive"
Every MAF in this MAF'en world has the same chances.
Think about a people that have been tormented by the crap
because they think Porn is healthy and fun ?
you know the drill.
We need him crucified, it's all you have to do
A PEOPLE ?
NO - JEWS
THAT'S DIFFERENT. ONE GROUP IS SANE. THE OTHER IS NOT.
ONE GROUP IS GREEDY. SO IS THE OTHER.
ISSUE SETTLED.
I mistrust the Rich White "horsey" set as much as I mistrust any group of Hu - Mans (an Apex predator)
Yes that is exactly what ocurred !!
Got links?
Good to see ya bryan.
We need a noise gate on this channel.
"
Why the hell not ? He just allows us to suffer and die and expects us to read GAY things and be "saved"
"
B_U, excuse the personal question, but are you gay?
Have you been bitten by a gay person?
meaning, we each are 'unique'.
Gay people are just that to themselves.
I've never had any gay person female or male, force their sexuallity upon me.
I have many friends of all sexualities. Who are we to judge?
we are a single person each.
Each of us is ONE person.
Each with a vastly different background, that leads to OUR conclusions.
but to take another persons judgement from their background and simply plaster and label all other "similar" peoples is not loving in any way or neighbourly.
This blog is regarding measurement and observation.
From our births, we were weighed, tested for illnesses and defects and given quantities of food and love to nurture our growths.
To our deaths, the coffin and the tomb stone above our heads are measured and weighed.
EVERYTHING we are is measured.
The amount of heart beats over a lifetime of an average human's 3 score years and 10, is 3 billion beats.
Average human temperature is 37 Degrees Centigrade.
All things measured.
How do you measure? By a given standard.
One 33 year old Jewish man, proved that he could live in Altruistic Agape love and serve others unselfishly.
That was a standard, Are we living to that standard?
How can a person live to a standard of a man that died? who was put to death for living to that standard?
Faith, love and charity...
And also 33 links Jesus to Cannabis. A foundation of Agape love...
More ta write, good blog, mi name in lights again skipper :D
harrr harr...
more to add...
Boh, was musing over the moon and it's gravity (3.3 Grams Per Square inch)
The fact that it does NOT spin, yet still has gravity...
How come that is not pointed out in science classes?
Of course, the spin that the liers get, the disinforming 72 year Rumsfeld$ of this world. Power hungry eejits, don't like the masses knowing the truth.
Might mean that FAT Pensions and Rich OIL F*ckers get no more ca$h to line their blood drenched pocket$. Might mean that they have to have their freedoms taken away and themselves be incarcerated for treachory and treason to the human race.
the moon doesn't spin, yet it's MASS has gravity.
The earth spins, yet gravity would remain even if the earth didn't spin.
Off course the sunny side would get real real hot, and the cooler side would errrrm not...
but 5.5 grams of earths gravity against the 3.3 of the moons.
91 million miles from the sun to earth...
The bible is measured.
Each word is carefully counted and measured out into the 66 cannonised books of the bible.
Jehovah measured to 133 instances, in the GREEK scriptures.
Jesus written 1110 times entirely in the same book.
Smoke written 33 times in the 3rd book.
Everyting is measured.
So who are we?
What do we as humans have to do with that observation and measurement?
Don't we each have a responsibility to sculpt and craft our selves to perfectly accurate measurements?
To shape our mental mantels to be of Agape love?
Of course everything is we do is measured too.
A concience is the tool that gives a warning or a welcome to the mind and of the deeds performed.
133 foot below water is the limit of Recreational diving.
measurements everywhere, that give away the science and truth of our origins.
Hurricanes become so at 39 MPH...
Water can only be 'sucked' up to 33 feet, above that it 'must' be pumped...
Of course, the ancient mariners, the navigators had to make charts, to tri-angulate a course...
They had to be pretty smart observant measurers.
I guess ya could say, they were 'rulers'.
Just need to be observant and measure tings too...
It all links and adds up...
Not least that NASA's last shuttle mission was 333 hours and 33 minutes and possibly 33 seconds long...
hi hi hi...
33 and a seven leaved plant...
All measured...
Crypto, was musing over Romans 9:33 when mi checked Revelation 3:3
"
3 Therefore, continue mindful of how you have received and how you heard, and go on keeping [it], and repent. Certainly unless you wake up, I shall come as a thief, and you will not know at all at what hour I shall come upon you.
"
33.
Tomorrow isn't guaranteed for everyone like we have said before.
to the people that were hit by a Tornado in the middle of the night... They saw Armageddon in those few minutes or seconds.
Death came like a thief...
So lifes too short to carry on hate and anger.
But setting an example and teaching/serving others, there lies the path of truth.
to be a pillar of morality, of love.
Sword, ya have three pillars in your Temple. Samson was the central pillar that pulled down the lot in the bible account.
interesting connections sah!
and ya will like this;
mi Buccaneer piccie
:D
...we each are a single person.
The war on the media, is for our hearts and minds.
Once we realise that we are part of a dysfunctional corrupted, $ociety, then we can free our minds and start to discover who we are inside, with true objectivity.
Each of us is a character, but based on what strength?
Each of us has personality love and soul, but how to express it?
Each of us has hopes, ambitions and goals, to what end?
Weren't we simply tasked in the Genesis with looking after the earth and having in subjection the living things?
Doesn't that require love and intelligence, to truly look after and serve?
How can we be a good neighbour, if first we can't love and truly forgive ourselves?
Life is a journey, the treasures of heart and mind, that we pick up on the way along with the friends, family, aquaintances, enemies...
Each of walk that journey mostly alone... in search of something to quench that deep inner thirst.
Searching amongst the rubble of facts and the dissary of data, to find that little golden scrap of wisdom, the key that opens the door to REAL life and living...
That's what this blog is all about, bringing forth the objective measured data freely, communicating the ideas and inspirations truthfully. Adding spirit to the higher conciousness of the universe, the biggest buccaneering, altruistic Agape mind of the cosmos...
sigh...
Are we ready fi warp 6?
nearly 6/6/06 and hurricane season is nearly here...
[hifff...]
More pentacanes?
Jasgrave333...
> mi Buccaneer piccie
Arrrrrrrrrrrr...
My Brother said he had an 'evil' look on his face, but I disagree.
I now have enough money to get a passport, and maybe even to travel,
so I might be coming out there, Jas, to give 'commissions' to your
scary looking crew (those black guys, with shades your're hanging around
on the beach with?)...so watch out !
I even have cousins in Canada who owe me a trip around Toronto (I showed
them round London once)...so Iontruo2 ?
I'm coming....be afraid....be very afraid....:-P
DJbarney
Barrow, Alaska..the ice over winter used to be 15 feet thick. Now, it gets 18 inches.
Turn one side of your face to the sun and "it does something".
Anecdotes are okay says the climatologist but the fact is the thermometer says it is 5 degrees warmer now than it was 50 years ago.
buried in the 3 AM CNN news.......
Harrr harrrrrr
we is ready DjB...
just if ya need a lift from the airport...
(remembering your shuttle landing failure...)
We is also ready...
including the scary lookin beach characters, wearing shades or bandannas or patches or...
hi hi hi
ATTENTION ALL HANDS
Henceforth, to comment on this blog will require that you be a registered Blogspot User.
Well there ya go;
"
buried in the 3 AM CNN news.......
"
at 3:33 AM ?
Pieces of 33... pieces of 33...
V..hehe
I'm still looking for that Gary Lunn cuts funding to climatologist link that you put together. Do you have a link?
Bubba... get back to me on verity. I think it's time to launch FSHOD.com.
V,
No...just made the decision to use it. email me, please, I have a question for you.
LOL re:333. Hey, Jas, mi brudder!
John,
If you didn't know the issure surrounding BU (how could you NOT?), then you shouldn't have voted.
A vote is a powerful thing. If you don't know the issues, your vote can be dangerous.
Your wisdom for the day.
Harrr Harrrrrrrrr
"
LOL re:333. Hey, Jas, mi brudder!
"
SunKing mi Buccaneering Bredren
talking of BBQ's and Bucaneers or Buccaneers.
Aren't we toasted daily by the sun?
I mean, like meat on a spit, we rotate before the biggest furnace of our solar system. A nice steady third rock toasting from da sun...
...Now isn't it handy that we have a nice toasty 7 leaved plant that smokes of all da daily grilling...
sigh...
harrr harr[ifff...] [coff...]
Jehovah, Da buccaneering God of da Universe... hiding right there in plain site...
Sword said...
Whats with all the spammers?
Sword
Sword, John, et al,
Go back to last night's comments and work your way thru the early AM hours. I decided not to delete them today, like I and some good helpers ave been doing. This is the work of Biological_Unit. It's digital masturbation and the reason for the poll.
If my memory serves me, Bio thought he'd save the FSHOD world and, according to him, bought a website (read: Promised Land) that He (BU in his guise as Moses) would lead us to. When nobody followed, he got pissed and demanded a contribution from all FSHODers to pay for the Promised land we neither asked for or wanted. Being rebuffed, and with time on his hands after having been banned from the TEM forum for Criminal Idiocy, he proceeded to begin a campaign of daily attack against FSHOD. Except for the few comments above that break his normal pattern, most of BUs postings are 2-3 lines of incomprehensible horseshit or what is essentially hate-speech, typically against Jews. When I asked BU to tone it down, he only got worse.
BU, you're a sick asshole. I'd give anything to stick my Size 13 boot square up your ass...repeatedly. I truly hope something bad happens to you today...and tomorrow...and the next day.
So, Sword there it is.
John, Does the poll make sense now?
If anybody has any questions, feel free to ask, here or via email.
Jas, et al.
It is International Pot Smoking Day...4/20!
"Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight up!
And Be Haaaaaapy!
Joiiin Us in our Cele-braaaaation!"
OSOTP, Mac, and any of the responsible FHSOD Crewe that typically post as anonymous or unregistered users....IF you have a problem with registering, email me and let's talk. I do not want to lose you.
I you are an 'x' poster, please email me, in full confidentiality, with your info or just to talk.
fshod@hotmail.com
"Weeeeeeeell, a sailor's life, 'tis not so grand.
Bend boys, Bend.
But at least mi feets aren't on dry land,
Bend boys, Bend!" - from Buggery on the High Seas, Cheech & Chong
Yo Hoooooooooooo, mi bucko.
Aye aye, ye say the waters be a-warmin'? Bodes not well fer the starmin', laddie. Repair the hatches, matey, the better to be battened inthe time of the battening. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!
Info re: 420
http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/420.htm
V,
Wish you'd provide a link with those interesting blurbs.
The biggest problem with what Rumsfeld and Negroponte have done with our nation's intel is to squach it up in to one giant apparatus. Gone is the differing viewpoint, gone is the advantages of a decentralized intel product. Gone is the ability to reign in one branch of intel by another...if the big daddy says it's so, ain't no one to say "NO!"...and that's dangerous to OUR nation...which can be dangerous to YOUR nation, if your nation is the enemy du jour!
SunKing said...
Jas, et al.
It is International Pot Smoking Day...4/20!
"Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight up!
And Be Haaaaaapy!
Joiiin Us in our Cele-braaaaation!"
Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:22:30 AM
IonTruO2-Ahhhh YES! ...and Sunking gets out the urghhmm :D
STYX and STONES!! he he he
...Sweet sweet smells will fill the air!
Well, it's the 107th Anniversary of Hitler's birth.
Maybe that explains why BU posted so much last night...he was having a party for his 'inspiration'.
Just to balance, things...Ion. hehehe.
I'm thinking about the time I smoked a joint on Liberty Island in NYC....just under the Statue of Liberty.
and it was some "Baaad Azzzzzz Weeeeeeeeeeeed".
Saw a bit of the show last night, FORCES OF NATURE.
Outside of all the damage and sadly the possible losses of life, I have to admit the video footage of those various funnels and the visuals around their earthly contact was strikingly(oops) beautiful.
A very cool bit of grand earthly power that the storm chasers got so close, to film.
Damn, IOn....now that song is stuck in my head!
V,
Oh....OK! NP. Again, scary what this Administration has done to intel in this country.
Thanks sk! :)
SK, done as requested, please check your email. Thanks.
WOW. How easy was that ?
unipax said...
WOW. How easy was that ?
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took me almost 30 minutes to figure out the instructions :P
It gets more confusing when it (does it still) prompt you to create a blog you may or may not want.
Thanks for the cooperative spirit!
SunKing
you said...
Damn, IOn....now that song is stuck in my head!
IonTruO2-Oh sure now its gonna stick in my brain now! :0
Oh well, maybe its the anthem of this Special Day- as Sunking informed us!
It is International Pot Smoking Day...4/20!
"Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight up!
And Be Haaaaaapy!
Joiiin Us in our Cele-braaaaation!"
So we "lightened UP" and fondly remembered a great Band-Styx who also told us about the Grand Illusion,
TOOT! :Oooooo
ssl4000g,
you said:
Dude, very very out of the box there! Including the post about anti grav 1971 etc. Not only possible but plausible! Sitchen again in our views.
iontruo2For sure! I also have an 'article' about a later test.
V on that note I stand corrected, The picture I saw, was of the test vehicle in 1988, not the 1971 one. That said, the trail is challenging because we have found evidence of parallel programs, and previously we saw a patent for a warp drive engine from about 1960 sold to the U.S Air Force yet developed in the 50's.
So, it is hard sometimes to speculate on just how evolved the actual leading edge is. After studying Naudin's site, I personally found the science of it fairly straight forward, nothing too "out there" and super advanced or "exotic", it seems to be really all about the math.
Kind of like the "breathrough" to make the Transistor, which as Corso revealed in his book about the Roswell crash, was thanks to reverse engineering. Yet it was a simple combination of two metals we just hadn't groked yet while still in the vacuum tube era.
Here V and ssl4000g:
It is aledged that a very large triangle, ours or otherwise, crashed on june 11,1953 near Garrison Utah.
It was huge, in fact too big to even remove, so apparently it was buried where it was.
see a number of pics: at this one link, but there are others:
http://www.aliendave.com/UFOcrash_Utah1953.html
or at google for info:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-27,GGLG:en&q=buried+ufo+triangle+linda+moulton+howe
Size of the ship is currently considered to be 4,400 feet long and 2,700 feet wide.
Thats pretty massive, how many acres might that be?
... an Iraqi 104 acres perhaps? ;)
Now where the heck is SWORD?! Time SWORD for some input. Common throw me some toast! :)
just a bunch of coincidences...
"All I neeeeeeeed is just one hit to get me byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy,
cuz baby when you're near I'm haaaalf waaaaay Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh!
W V = g logwce
"Light up dat log, stonoid"
Wow ion. Here is some info on the "acre" for grokking;
An acre is equivalent to approximately:
* a square of side 208.71 feet (63.61 m).
One square mile is 640 acres. A square parcel of land ¼ mile wide is 40 acres. A square parcel of land ½ mile on a side (i.e. a quarter-section) is 160 acres, the usual land tract under the Homestead Act in the United States. This results in common field lengths of ½ mile, with every rod in width equal to one acre.
One acre is slightly less than 91 yards on an American Football field, with the full field, including the end zones, covering approximately 1.32 acre
Dude, the thing is FU$&ING HUGE!
Wayne
Kinda tough to make out the Starship in those pics. Bet get new glasses!
Gerald has found a part of a rather old vacuum cleaner on Mars !
Under his April 20, scroll down 6 images.
It looks kinda like aluminum.
http://marsrelaystation.blogspot.com/
v,
Very close to GR indeed. Still really friggin big. :)
Wayne
Anonymous said...
>N.A.D.S. (North American Defense against Squirrels)
ROFLMAO! Thanks Anon!
I needed that kick in da head!
Too funny.
ahh.. styx
~Crystal Ball~
I used to like to walk the straight and narrow line
I used to think that everything was fine
Sometimes I'd sit and gaze for days through sleepless dreams
All alone and trapped in time
I wonder what tomorrow has in mind for me
Or am I even in its mind at all
Perhaps I'll get a chance to look ahead and see
Soon as I find myself a crystal ball
But tell me, tell me where I'm going
I don't know where I've been
Tell me, tell me, won't you tell me
And then tell me again
My heart is breaking, my body's aching
And I don't know where to go
So tell me, tell me, won't you tell me
I just gotta know
Crystal ball, there's so many things I need to know
Crystal ball, there's so many things I've gotta know
Crystal ball, won't you tell me please before I go
Crystal ball
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nTruO2 said...
>It is International Pot Smoking Day...4/20!
>"Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight up!
>And Be Haaaaaapy!
>Joiiin Us in our Cele-braaaaation!"
>Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:22:30 AM
!@@! OH Cool!
seein as I just found dat out, do I get a full 24 hrs from now?
ok? I hurry'n.. anyways..
hffffft... hfffft... hfffffffffftttttt.. hfft.. hft.. hf.. h.. ....
(((peace crew)))
Nice visuals.. The cats are from another planet..
Thanks Na Zdrowie!
Indeed!
blasted2 good to seeya.
...long ways to go on my magnetic motor project
and it's going to cost me some USD.
BU that mag motor post was epic for me thanks,
defineately doesn't make up for all the hate-spew
though. As to not having AMPS, the circuit
is high voltage, high current. If the switching
and uni-flow are done right THEN the current
can do work.
Agree w/ Na Zdrowie in that there is much
to be amazed about and that it is important
to connect to it.
Na Zd said:
Tradition tells me
that Jesus Christ
was crucified today;
and as a reminder,
it always rains
on Good Friday.
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Looks like its a global phenomenon. I can't remember a Good Friday when it didnt have a rumbling thunder in the background. As a child, my father told me it happens every year. And right he was. This year , it stormed with lightning...around 3pm of course.... There's more than 1 billion Christians worldwide.
I'd like to add that this region is also the most populous Muslim area in the world. It always FLOODS during their Eid Fitr (end of fasting month). Has always been that way since I was young. There's more than 1 billion Muslims worldwide.
A connection ?
This could be a GLOBAL CONSCIOUSNESS event we hardly pay attention to. Perhaps another subject for study by the Princeton Eggs.
na zdrowie, long time, good to see ya !
oso,
Speaking of eggs, here is an entertaining little snip from Alex Jones, about Bush 'the decider'
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/200406Decider.htm
Want to know which side you're really on? Take this 10-question test.
You'll be asked just 10 questions, and then it instantly tells you where
you
stand politically. It shows your position as a red dot on a "political
map"
so you'll see exactly where you score. You may be surprised.
The most interesting thing about the Quiz is that it goes beyond the
Democrat, Republican, and Independent.
The Quiz has gotten a lot of praise. The Washington Post said it has
"gained
respect as a valid measure of a person's political leanings." The Fraser
Institute said it's "a fast, fun, and accurate assessment of a person's
overall political views." Suite University said it is the "most concise
and
accurate political quiz out there."
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html.
Good to see ya na zdrowie! I am one too. Wayne
Gee. didn't do well on the test. Could only respond to one question and the rest were hog wash mind control .
Tesla wars ..7.7 earthquake in E. Russia... The response to protecting Iran?
Gold at $636 and rising. Sure looks like paper money is heading for the salon de toilette.
na zdrowie,
Hi! And your poetic imagery and words of wisdom PROVE why you should be here more often! Please!
Huh! I came up on the survey as on the border between liberal and libertarian. FREEEEEEEDOM!
ssl4000g,
Huge is so right, errr umm ya F'ing HUGE!
Thats a scale that would certainly "fit" the size of the dig at the "Embassy" site in Iraq.
V you said...
4400/2700 = 1.63 (approx)
Golden ratio = 1.62 (approx) = Golden Spaceship
and latter_days_aint said...
So Sword, you think there'll be a golden shem rising from the Middle East presently?
Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:52:46 PM
IonTruO2--Wow, Golden ratio-of course! Good call V. Golden Shem, indeed latter_days_aint, it starts to fit, at least as a speculation.
They did bury the thing pretty good, but some of the pics further down the page on that link I posted, do seem to show subtle more linear lines and the triangle outline. Some interesting comments regarding the debris scatter as well.
From an earlier link offered by (Sword or BO-i think?) about the new and "improved" antimatter spaceship, it seems that various problems exist in regards to radiation issues both from space in general and from the propulsion.
From that earlier book exercpt that said: Government whistle-blower and former head of Air Force Project Pounce, Col. Steve Wilson, told researcher Dr Richard J Boylan that, "the FIRST SUCCESSFUL U.S. ANTIGRAVITY FLIGHT took place July 18, 1971 at S-4 (on Nellis Air Force base in Nevada), wherein light bending capabilities
were also demonstrated to obtain total invisibilities.
ion-->This brings me to wonder if that might also be a means to Sheild or bend for 'other' wave lengths as well?
The whole anti-grav emphasis these days with those offical examples from http://cyberspaceorbit.com/exotwood.htm
and is from:
Daniel Hopsicker's recent book "Welcome to Terrorland", leads me more to the ship theme for what might be in Iraq and Iran-that they don't know about.
As Sword proposed, with the location and the "buried" idea, I wonder what value the ships could be at this stage 2006, except the key idea that they may not be products of crashes with a measure of damage?
Golden Shems-Shems and Gold hmmm?
Na Zdrowie! , Good to have you posting. Thank you for your point about the tone of the Blog, much has been said in recent weeks about just that and the persistent negative invective.
That said, you poem is excellent and if you don't mind I am going to pass it on to my wife at work today. She'll appreciate it.
other side of the pacific said... -commented from your post:
Looks like its a global phenomenon. I can't remember a Good Friday when it didnt have a rumbling thunder in the background. As a child, my father told me it happens every year. And right he was. This year , it stormed with lightning...around 3pm of course.... There's more than 1 billion Christians worldwide.
I'd like to add that this region is also the most populous Muslim area in the world. It always FLOODS during their Eid Fitr (end of fasting month). Has always been that way since I was young. There's more than 1 billion Muslims worldwide.
A connection ?
This could be a GLOBAL CONSCIOUSNESS event we hardly pay attention to. Perhaps another subject for study by the Princeton Eggs.
Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:11:25 PM
IonTruO2--Really good point Osotp. You Hear.
Subtleties of the synchronicity, those little(big) signs that resonate with these archetypal themes expressed tangibly in the enviroment we soak in.
Who Knows-Who Notices?
ericswan
you said...
Gold at $636 and rising. Sure looks like paper money is heading for the salon de toilette.
Friday, April 21, 2006 8:27:43 AM
IonTruO2--Gold is rising, hmmm? like a golden shem.
Might we still be the garden of gold pit-stop for the Annunaki, as they do their 3600year lap-tour-orbit? Just thinking out loud.
Thanks eric for that stat on Gold! wow, $636.00 is startling to me.
Yes, that's right, the correct answer is Liberals, mmkay ?
I'm willing to help any non-Liberals with their homework,
so they can score better on the test next time.
LIBERALS usually embrace freedom of choice in personal
matters, but tend to support significant government control of the
economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net"
to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation
of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations,
defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action
to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.
iontruO2 said;
As Sword proposed, with the location and the "buried" idea, I wonder what value the ships could be at this stage 2006, except the key idea that they may not be products of crashes with a measure of damage?
Golden Shems-Shems and Gold hmmm?
Friday, April 21, 2006 8:49:43 AM
Maybe, since the Annunaki original spaceport was in that area, they have a ship left there pre-flood. Wild speculation yes, but is it? Anything is possible. If this is possible, we should see some flak appear in the blog. you think?
Wayne
other side of the pacific said...
Na Zd said:
Tradition tells me
that Jesus Christ
was crucified today;
and as a reminder,
it always rains
on Good Friday.
starshipconstellation finds that interesting: It's raining here today in Kentucky.
WV: duepal
ssl4000g, hi
you were saying:
Maybe, since the Annunaki original spaceport was in that area, they have a ship left there pre-flood. Wild speculation yes, but is it? Anything is possible. If this is possible, we should see some flak appear in the blog. you think?
Wayne
Friday, April 21, 2006 9:27:27 AM
IonTruO2 Like a Princeton egg? They might all start squaking and giving us the flak en masse. lol :) What a barometer!
I'm with you on this specualtion, maybe more little elements will reveal in time, but there are some funny linkages and if we take Sword to be an acknowledged insider as he has presented himself as, for so long now then his nudges are relevent to this train of thought.
I've tuned into the "ship" consideration and that may prove over time to not be the case for "what might be in Iraq and Iran that THEY don't know about".
Temples, GOLD, and key artifacts are possible as well, considering the point made by him about the very pro job of raiding the museum right at the beginning of the war.
SO, I'm not stuck on the ship thought, but a number of dots connected right away around that first premise. Many sightings of the TR3B(i think?) describe this ship as a black triangle as well, of human production. Derived from what, inspiration? That article we, looked at earlier here, beyond the struggles and scandal, showed me as well some serious official, large scale industrial co-ordination behind the anti-gravity premise.
Lifters anyone? Arks? Maybe that 500 Million number thats popped up a few times is a global total lift target if things here go sour and humanity must leave the surface for a while.
If the current population is somewhere around 6 Billion then thats 12 times 500 Million.
Interesting to consider what is the right ratio for Human Continuity.
Maybe we just have to pay someone like the Annunnaki to "give us Lift"? ;)
hmmm? We may not be overtly gold slaves anymore(ala 12th Planet-Sitchen), but perhaps, the covenant is that we still have to "pay the Ferryman"...in gold
The Fool,
My first thought with that, is that as the story goes, the Annunnaki are are/were about a million years ahead of us, so perhaps the means to generate an 'artificial' gravity as needed is already understood by them. Heck maybe we(Earthlings) are already able to deal with that now.
Don't rotating craft create pseudo gravity, as in some sci fi, like 2001 Space Odyssey?
And is that a good enough substitute ?
Well, it's not the Third Day yet, but I got an email from Biological_Unit. He was crucified in mid conversation with Jasgrave333, so, before he emerges from a cave (attic?) to go father children in Southern France, he has given Joseph of Arimathea a message.
I
From Jas:
>I've never had any gay person female or male, force their sexuallity upon
me.<
Many or most Gay men were abused as Children. Those "Gays" DID force their
sexuality on them. But of course that doesn't matter because three days after being brutally
crucified "the Lord" came back to life and showed himself to three apostles in an attic.
II
Jas:
>One 33 year old Jewish man, proved that he could live in Altruistic Agape
love and serve others unselfishly.<
One 33 year old Jewish man WAS NOT RECOGNIZED BY JEWS AS A "MESSIAH"
GO SERVE YOUR LORD AND DON'T FORGET TO GET CRUCIFIED - AS "YOUR" LORD MOST
CERTAINLY DOES DEMAND THIS "COVENANT"
KEEP YOUR FAITH "AUTHENTIC"
III
To Jas:
Do you know anyone who killed themselves because they're STRAIGHT?
I'm curious to know where "people" come up with the statistics to link gays with pedophilia. Sex is a sport - we all discover sex at different ages - 12yrs for some, 19yrs or 39yrs for others. Most don't learn they're gay until University - or later.
My personal {never heard anywhere else before} original interpretation of Jesus, is that he was born King of Kings and never lost focus on improving the world - no matter what they put on his head. Jesus showed that you can do nothing and have people bring you gold & frankenscence & myrrh - or, you can selflessly heal people, turn water into wine and walk on water and end up being crucified wearing a crown of thorns.
As a guy who walked away from a publishing contract because I insisted on publishing the truth - I think about the lessons of Jesus quite a bit - whether I'm driving my 1985 4cylinder, or sitting here in my rented accomodation.
The seekers of the Grail were told - YOU WILL GET OUT OF IT (the Grail) WHAT YOU BRING TO IT.
Long Live Sir Bob Marley !!
IonTruO2 said...
The Fool,
My first thought with that, is that as the story goes, the Annunnaki are are/were about a million years ahead of us, so perhaps the means to generate an 'artificial' gravity as needed is already understood by them. Heck maybe we(Earthlings) are already able to deal with that now.
Friday, April 21, 2006 1:56:09 PM
unipax said...
Don't rotating craft create pseudo gravity, as in some sci fi, like 2001 Space Odyssey?
And is that a good enough substitute ?
Friday, April 21, 2006 2:02:23 PM
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I thought Bo explained that gravity was independent of rotation. It's dependent on Mass.
I suspect its the bones that need gravity to maintain its density, where as the brain needs the earth's magnetic flux to maintain functional stability. Lest we all end up posting Crypto Zionist stuff.
--------------
crypto2 said...
Well, it's not the Third Day yet, but I got an email from Biological_Unit. He was crucified in mid conversation with Jasgrave333, so, before he emerges from a cave (attic?) to go father children in Southern France, he has given Joseph of Arimathea a message.
I
From Jas:
>I've never had any gay person female or male, force their sexuallity upon
me.<
Many or most Gay men were abused as Children. Those "Gays" DID force their
sexuality on them. But of course that doesn't matter because three days after being brutally
crucified "the Lord" came back to life and showed himself to three apostles in an attic.
--------
It always amazes me how we can read the same sentence and come up with different interpretations.
ROTFLMAO!!!
OOSOTP said...I thought Bo explained that gravity was independent of rotation. It's dependent on Mass.
I suspect its the bones that need gravity to maintain its density, where as the brain needs the earth's magnetic flux to maintain functional stability. Lest we all end up posting Crypto Zionist stuff.
<
Bo did say that. So, I'm wondering about the pseudo gravity of centrifugal force which apparently keeps the feet on the floor and the cup on the table.
Does it provide what bones need, I wonder?
The Poll Is Now Closed
Aaarg, Does Bio Walk da Plank?
Aaaaaarg, Crewe, Should Bio_Unit Be Made to Walk the Plank?
Walk the Plank, ya Scarvy Dawg! 75% 27
No...Save Him Save Him! 11.1% 4
Aaargh, Let's give the bugger a little more rope, see what happens. 13.9% 5
total votes: 36
There ya go...IF we had a plank, BU would be walking it?
End of Story
ATTENTION ALL HANDS
New Poll is Up!
Talking about gravity.
Here's a very good link on current thinking of gravity's cause, that also ties in to Naudin and Bearden and others re: anti-gravity
http://www.soulinvitation.com/gravitycause/
Crypto, thanks fa keepin tabs...
ta comment on da conversation and add further comments, whilst tokin a little here...
"
Well, it's not the Third Day yet, but I got an email from Biological_Unit. He was crucified in mid conversation with Jasgrave333,
"
harrr harrrr...
well, in this instance it wasn't me, da boat kinda "dinged" him as it went by, but he'll be'right soon enough, with any unfortunate/fortune coincidence...
"
so, before he emerges from a cave (attic?)
"
Where does a B_U live?
everyone's got quarters I guess...
(don't get me started Eric) hi hi hi...
"
to go father children in Southern France, he has given Joseph of Arimathea a message.
"
well there's always that...
France, near Holland I hear...
hi hi hi...
worked in France for a little while. Any French women with unaccounted for blond children, it wasn't me...
harr harrrr...
"
I
From Jas:
>I've never had any gay person female or male, force their sexuallity upon
me.<
"
I don't think I can clarify that sentence, it stands all by itself, and no doubt will be pasted in da F-SHOD Bogs... (Toilets to any spacelings)...
"
Many or most Gay men were abused as Children. Those "Gays" DID force their
sexuality on them. But of course that doesn't matter because three days after being brutally
crucified "the Lord" came back to life and showed himself to three apostles in an attic.
"
Everyone has to answer to their concience eventually. That which is done in the darkness, WILL come to the light.
Let them be judged by God...
it's a sickness and perversion, persisting a sickness and perversion... it must stop!
"
II
Jas:
>One 33 year old Jewish man, proved that he could live in Altruistic Agape
love and serve others unselfishly.<
One 33 year old Jewish man WAS NOT RECOGNIZED BY JEWS AS A "MESSIAH"
GO SERVE YOUR LORD AND DON'T FORGET TO GET CRUCIFIED - AS "YOUR" LORD MOST
CERTAINLY DOES DEMAND THIS "COVENANT"
KEEP YOUR FAITH "AUTHENTIC"
"
That's a true statement.
I mean, look at it like this, how many musicians and singers were more famous after they died.
The list is long, we all have our favourites.
mine fi instance; Otis Reading.
To the Jews, there spiritual rockstar was Jesus.
Probably da feller could sing and play an instrument too.
The bible doesn't say, it simply says, John 21:25, there where many other things that Jesus did, that are not written down etc...
I mean, it's a cop out scripture.
The guy could have ridden a harley up the roman emporers speed way for all we know. But the point is, he was one man. Famous for God knows what reason.
Simply an embodiment of Agape love, a gang-star...
a real fella... probably married...
etc...
the bible doesn't say...
but ya can be sure of this, 33 links Cannabis to the man.
"
III
To Jas:
Do you know anyone who killed themselves because they're STRAIGHT?
"
Yes, I have, a fella, in a gym I used to train in, in Slough, related a story of a man, who'd been married four times.
On the fourth divorce, hung himself...
I guess, there's trying and trying again, but there's a point you gotta read da signs...
good blogging.
Had a little poke on a pot (cannabis) Guardian article here;
"
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/david_boaz/2006/04/no_patience_for_pot.html
"
...or probably wasn't Jesus
"
there spiritual rockstar was Jesus
"
maybe I meant King David (ruled 33 years), I seem to recollect, no Xmas trees in the windows at the appropiate times of year...
well, gotta keep da protocol correct (at times...)
k... it's gettin close ta beach bar time and wouldn't wanna miss the cold beers and da sunset...
sigh...
Hey gang,
one more link with some descent summary and depth about 2012.
A little more spiritual but nonetheless well detailed.
http://weinholds.org/2012_home.asp
da time is countin down Ion bredren... 2012 just under 6 years from now...
interestin new poll SK, I'm lackin data. But with all the mass build up in the media etc...
ya never know...
These eejits, will start launching shuttles and dusting Bruce Willaces space suit in a heart beat.
Well, ya remember mi primary blog from last year...
Something is getting quicker, has anyone tapped da princeton egg recently?
No Fool, forgot ta mention, good blog entry, got mi head buzzing good.
Na Zdrowie!;
"
I'n it odd how real "Liberals" and "Moderates" are pretty much cut from the same cloth? Guess some people actually realize this here birdy can't fly with only one wing. . .
"
Moderation in everything Na Zdrowie!, even liberalism...
[hifff...]
OK 10 spliffs a day IS normal...
because I said so... hi hi hi
THIS IS A MUST!
http://decider.cf.huffingtonpost.com/
Thanks, Boh!
From an email from a friend:
Hey Steve,
On a more serious note, there is a story that very few have heard about.
On June second, the US government will explode 700 tons of conventional explosives at a test site in Nevada in order to simulate the effects of a proposed bunker busting tactical nuke to be used on Iran.
To put things into context, a B52H bomber (the largest strategic bomber in the world) can only carry 35 tons of ordinance. They are going to blow up at once the equivalent to twenty bomb loads at once.
They may be trying to bluff Iran into negotiations but it is unlikely. Back in 2003, Iran made back door contact with the Bush Administration through the Swiss Government to negotiate a solution to the stand off between us. Not only did Bush's people not talk to the Iranians but they rebuked the Swiss ambassador for passing along the message. Like with Iraq, they are eliminating all alternatives to military action.
Combine this with the intel from Scarlet re: Eglin activity? hmmmm
iontruO2 said;
"I've tuned into the "ship" consideration and that may prove over time to not be the case for "what might be in Iraq and Iran that THEY don't know about".
Temples, GOLD, and key artifacts are possible as well, considering the point made by him about the very pro job of raiding the museum right at the beginning of the war.
SO, I'm not stuck on the ship thought, but a number of dots connected right away around that first premise. Many sightings of the TR3B(i think?) describe this ship as a black triangle as well, of human production. Derived from what, inspiration? That article we, looked at earlier here, beyond the struggles and scandal, showed me as well some serious official, large scale industrial co-ordination behind the anti-gravity premise."
I like the ship idea only for the fact that we have been able to see into the ground for a while now (ie; GPRadar, and other sats). Something like that could easily remain hidden as did the Nazca Lines. More speculation, I know. However, artifacts are easily found. Now if the artifact was of such antiquity (pre-flood) and contained much information, could it be translated? Possibly. But I would think a find like that would have been absolutely accidental in it's happening. As I don't see the military having the foresight to say, "Hey guys, while your keeping your asses alive watch our for artifacts. Especially while digging foxholes!" Nope, I think we need to speculate some more. Or, get more info. You?
sk,
It wouls certainly be heartwarming to me and many others if the Shrubs entire cast and crew won an all expense paid vacation to The Hague! ): (
Wayne
Bo posted:
CALIPSO/Cloudsat Update - April 19, 2006
Launch scrubbed. Rescheduled for tomorrow, Saturday, April 22, 3:30 AM PDT from VAFB.
This morning's launch was scrubbed at T-48 seconds due to loss of the primary and backup phone communications between the Mission Directors Center at Vandenberg and the Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales Space Command in Toulouse, France. The communications loss is being evaluated.
<
Now weren't that the one that someone (Bo?) said might be messed with, as other warming research has been suppressed ?
v,
I thought about that too (stargates). I guess anything is possible. The stargate too could be pre-flood. ????
Wayne
Stargate?
I always thought they were stationed in orbit.
That Venus report on TEM was pretty intriguing, re;the accutron watch experiment. Still looking for pt 7 of ARWAV!
Wayne
Another commentary on our inability to learn anything;
Iran: The Next Neocon Target
Wayne
protect your computer:
http://www.happyhacker.org/defend/index.shtml
Bo, Thanks for the latest !
Ion,
I may have mentioned this before, but the military and DoE budgets for that past ten years have included substantial funding for research, software, and equipment designed to search below ground...obstensibly for use in identifying potential oil drilling sites...but I'm sure is can be used for finding the underground structures (like we've built) and, maybe, now that you mention it, for the prototype or Robert's starship?
This is data that you can see, no FOIA required. Ya just have to know how to read between the lines.
In fact, if you go back on Drydock, I think on one blog I had links to several mil budget sites...You may find some stuff in there.
With re: The Bomb story I mentioned above, I noted Scarlet's recent reports about activity at Eglin, whuch he said was verrrry interestink, then added:
...this will be a single explosion equal to 117 Oklahoma City Nitrate bombs.
We need to get our local media to look into it, since the national Main Stream Media won't touch this. Call the news directors at your local stations. If they doubt you, have them Google "700 tons explosion Nevada"
Do it!
Great idea SK,
about this part:
"have them Google "700 tons explosion Nevada" "
<
what if the Google gangsters are censoring like they did with Charlie Sheen.
Alex Jones was thinking when he saved and posted the Google searches that gave nothing on Sheen.
I'm avoiding Google.
Whats better than Google ?
And are there other search engines that are just Google in disguise ?
Hi all...
Well, the scientific community has just announced what we already knew, that Mars was once a wet world...
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060420_mars_water.html
More good pix from MRO...
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mro/newsroom/pressreleases/20060413a.html
BTW, there's supposed to be a Bible code coming up soon (April 29)...
http://www.exodus2006.com/eli/1iyyar2006.htm
I have no idea what it means, but it's about Iran...
Oh, and here's the list of 2006 Bible codes...
http://www.exodus2006.com/sutton/All-of-the-dates-found.htm
John
BU said:
# Catholic Churches around the world are losing attendance.
------------
Your source is referring to European and American congregations.
This is hardly the case in Asia, I assure you.
In Singapore alone, 647 sq km, there are 28 parish churches. Most of them run 3 or more Sunday Masses. That's not including the Saturday evening Sunset Mass.
Seating capacity in my parish church is 1,500. We have 5 Sunday Masses, and 1 on Saturday. If you're late, you have to stand in the aisles :P
This is very common in Asia.
Go figure the math on this one BU.
Know Your Rights
(The Clash)
This is a public service announcement
With guitar
Know your rights all three of them
Number 1
You have the right not to be killed
Murder is a CRIME!
Unless it was done by a
Policeman or aristocrat
Know your rights
And Number 2
You have the right to food money
Providing of course you
Don't mind a little
Investigation, humiliation
And if you cross your fingers
Rehabilitation
Know your rights
These are your rights
Wang
Know these rights
Number 3
You have the right to free
Speech as long as you're not
Dumb enough to actually try it.
Asian Catholics cheered the burning towers?
Asian Catholics quickly went on the air as if they were completely "preped" for the story
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