Monday, April 02, 2007
The Warming Debate
194 comments - Click for Blog by Ericswan
It's a mystery wrapped in an enigma. The political system that expresses itself as a capitalist democracy spends all of our money on communist enterprise. The Military is an easy example for demonstration purposes. Look at how they live and work. Look at their chain of command. It's a communist enterprise top to bottom. The blood, sweat and tears of the producing blue collar worker pissed up a rope by governments intent on having a standing army at the ready to defend their cronyism, corruption and commercial interests. A hardened and brain dead mass of dependents waiting in the wings to do their bidding, foreign and domestic.
There is a new crime just over the horizon with a new class of criminal...called 'blue collar global warmers'. Be prepared to be incarcerated in work prisons for using electricity, your computer, your car or truck outside of proscribed uses. Silence the critics and save the planet and call it Patriot Act, Section 666.
It has been the modus operandi to tell a whopper of a lie that no one could unravel fast enough to save our souls. Global warming is that whopper of a lie. Global warming may be happening. We see the effects on the news daily but is it the domestic use of automobiles or electricity from coal fired generation or greenhouse gases from landfills, agriculture and urban renewal or is it a solar system wide event?
Would the millions of tons of chemtrail metals being dumped into the atmosphere be aiding and abetting global warming? What about the fuel these jets are burning just to place these toxic metals over our heads, in our air, earth, and water? Would the recent BASF/Monsanto consortium be devising control of all plant foods that can grow in a chemtrail metal soaked earth and water?
If the government could induce weather patterns, would they use it to benefit mankind or would they use it as a weapon? Would that weapon be used to benefit their friends or injure their opponents? Would they manipulate weather to manipulate the population into accepting the rationing of food, energy, or iminent domain? Phizer recently talked the government of Connecticut into taking land from a family that had held it for generations and turning it over to their corporate headquarters. If Monsanto/BASF control all plant foods that survive chemtrail metals, will Phizer control all drugs to treat humans?
We, apparently, will not be debating Chemtrail's efficacy any time soon. We, apparently, will not be contributing to the solution of global warming either. Perhaps we're not worthy. Will we dump the problem into the hands of our corporate and government leaders and allow them to be the ones to show us the 'promised land'?
Good luck with that!
Labels: Chemtrails, Global Warming
posted by ericswan at 4/02/2007 07:47:00 AM
194 Comments:
I copied the last 3 posts from the last Comments to the front here:
SSL4000G said...
Ion,
Your comment re: Baghdad Embassy, if you check out the Dan Burisch interview at Project Camelot you will find an interesting take on the possible why. He speaks of more than one time-line concurrently running with our own. Also, that there are man made stargates that should not be activated at all, especially around 2012. There may be a gate of some sort in baghdad, the possiblilty remains high. If you can, check out the interview.
Wayne
Friday, April 06, 2007 12:37:00 PM
scarletm said...
Wayne,
Could you kindly post that link. it looks compelling.
Thanks :)
Friday, April 06, 2007 1:30:00 PM
blasted said...
reposting Burisch Interview:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-401824297513952563&q=out+from+under
Well, here's the latest bleak GW news.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17953433/
Meanwhile, Dick 'stays the course'.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17975678/
Wayne, others interested;
Cosmic Voyage/Courtney Brown Ties in / reinforces quite a bit in regards to Burisch material..
even more so in his further continuation of that work titled Cosmic Explorers.
Both available here in pdf:
HERE
MR/Gary:
It would serve you well in YOUR efforts to review these.
MUCH Ties in to what you are working on. MUCH Bigger than even you have envisioned thus far... if you can believe that.
Here ya go scarlet and others;
http://www.projectcamelot.net/
Wayne
Hi All,
Wow Eric,
Great post!!
I've been pondering just these same things for weeks now. Here's something to think about. Another riddle to unravel. What if BASF/Monsanto is supplying the chemicals for CT's as well? What if Pfizer and the other drug companies are kicking in a share to pay for the spraying so they can make drugs and sell them to all the people they are making sick on purpose. Have you noticed how many different allergy, and sinus medicines are advertised every nite on TV? When I was growing up, the only time you ever saw that was during hay fever season. Now everybody has allergies all year round. Why? Why is it that when they talk about global warming, CT's are never brought up?
Why is it that volcanic activity in the northern part of the Pacific Rim under the ocean is never brought up? Or the fact that the rest of the Solar System is experiencing the same phenomena? Guess they have to stop driving those SUVs on Mars and Venus.
This time it's all too obvious that it's a scam. Have you noticed the ratcheting up of global warming in direct proportion to how badly things are spiraling out of control in the Mideast?
Anybody notice the "new policy of openess" that NOAA announced to day? I don't know how it is anywhere else but here in New England it's 10 degrees colder than normal and snowed last nite while we were out walking around.It's been that way since the middle of January here. Just flurries here but measurable amounts just a couple hours north of here.
How do you like your global warming now? What bullshit!!!
I can only stand here and scratch my head knowing that most of the sheep are buying this, and say to myself...WTF????
oh ya mac.. wtf is right. doublespeak.
Victory Gin soon to be on da shelves?..
open-ness redefined:
Although couched in rhetoric about the need for "broad and open dissemination of research results [and] open exchange of scientific ideas," the new order forbids agency scientists from communicating any relevant information, even if prepared and delivered on their own time as private citizens, which has not been approved by the official chain-of-command:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/3/132447/7483
LOL, blasted. Victory Gin!
I just finished reading 1984.
Amazing how much sounds like today.
Re: sand storms in Iraq.
I don't know if the sand storms and the drama during the invasion in 03 was natural or man-ipulated.
I don't know if there have or have not been sandstorms in Iraq in the subsequent years. I watch network news most every evening and don't remember hearing or seeing any stories about sandstorms in Iraq since the invasion.
Maybe they have been there all along. Maybe they have not been there since 03, because a certain air force "owns the weather."
I guess I was just making an observation and wondering why.
It was such a big thing during the invasion. (originally proposed to be called Operation Iraqi Liberation --OIL, but renamed Operation Iraqi Freedom, according to a recent interview with Alex Jones on Coast to coast am)
There were reddish skies and the sky turning dark at mid-day,(almost biblical?)while the satelite-cam reporters lit themselves with the alien-green glow of chemical glow sticks.
Then, for four years,not a peep about Iraqi sandstorms.
I believe the US constitution prohibits "standing armies" and also the quartering of soldiers in peoples homes. But it's ok to quarter us soldiers in Iraqi peoples homes.
We've basically had standing armies, a permanent career armed forces, since the end of WWII and the beginning of the Cold War.
At least since the reorganization of the Defense Department and the "birth" of the US Air Force in 1947.
George Orwell wrote his novel 1984 based on what he was observing in 1948. He had a lot of good 'splaining.
just my $.0333 worth.
Gort
p.s. I accidently erased part of what I was writing, but I'll add that in a later comment.
part of it had to do with how U S "Stryker" vehicles resemble the wild armored vehicles in the movie Mad Max.
gotta go now, more later.
Gort
Hi all,
Kudo's eric,
I wonder if that butterfly is telling of a 'metamorphosis'? Terra forming or Terra Firming perhaps?
Wayne- you said:
He speaks of more than one time-line concurrently running with our own.
iontruo2--> YES, and some of our people definately know how the planes are layered... and that the veils can 'thin' at times in this seven layer/spectral doorway through which we appear here.
Remember the Ulyses mission is observing the Sun in three dimensions including TIME?
So while they have a good fleet flying properly in formation now around the sun and over its 'poles', I think the story does indeed go much deeper than just that SOHO has found 1258 comets. http://ares.nrl.navy.mil/sungrazer/
This kind of leads me back to my recent (log overdue) visit to Robert's Blog-http://commonsensecentral.blogspot.com/
His smoking Pyramid, still a great enigma, really tweeked me when I saw the perfectly circular opening in the side of the structure from which the smoke seems to exit.
So what do you know, the first comment there from June 3rd last year(2006) is from SWORD. ;)
Titled--> "New Grounds"
Oddly enough – it wasn’t until recently that I started looking at sat and space images and wondering to myself – where are the clouds? The three sets of images do show a specific area of the Martian landscape emitting some sort of vaporous out gassing. Initially I referenced a book I had read call “Red Mars”[by a Kim Stanely Robinson]. In this book, colonists and teams of scientists are making a mad rush to tera-form the planet for massive immigration. One of there ideas to get warmth and humidity into the climate was to dig – “Mo-Holes” – large diameter shafts that went straight down into the warmer interior of the planet Mars. This shaft went straight out into the open air of the planet – and gradually warmer air sublimed into the atmosphere. A heat vent – only much larger and working on a slow scale – or at least that’s they thought in the book – after digging just four of them they had to stop because the effect was far more than what they expected. Anyway – I think that’s what we got here… “Mo-Holes” A mohole next to a giant pyramid shape is an exhaust vent with a modified flume. Nothing less – nothing more… If you’re the left behind race of worker bee’s – what do you do to save your off course and quickly freezing planet? You stay working – you keep digging – and you never give up. You have more than one of these down there, Robert – MRO is going to give you QUITE a treat.3:35 am (yup)
Time signitures are important. (ion)
iontruo2--> So ya, AND?
Well funny enough that brings me back to Sunking's link earlier:
http://space.com/scienceastronomy/070402_mm_mars_caves.html
If I may copy paste a little to make the point ?
A Mars-orbiting satellite recently spotted seven dark spots near the planet's equator that scientists think could be entrances to underground caves.
The football-field sized holes were observed by Mars Odyssey's Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) and have been dubbed the seven sisters --Dena, Chloe, Wendy, Annie, Abbey, Nikki and Jeanne--after loved ones of the researchers who found them. The potential caves were spotted near a massive Martian volcano, Arisa Mons. Their openings range from about 330 to 820 feet (100 to 250 meters) wide, and one of them, Dena, is thought to extend nearly 430 feet (130 meters) beneath the planet's surface.
The researchers hope the discovery will lead to more focused spelunking on Mars
further on: "Caves on Mars could become habitats for future explorers or could be the only structures that preserve evidence of past or present microbial life ," said Glenn Cushing of Northern Arizona University, who first spotted the black areas in the photographs.
A project here on Earth aims to refine the visual and infrared techniques THEMIS used to find the Martian caves and to also develop robots that can one day enter the caverns and explore them.
Cave detection using QWIP works by spotting regions in the landscape where temperatures are different from the surroundings. Inside a cave, temperatures are nearly constant due to lack of sunlight. Outside, temperatures fluctuate with the rising and setting of the Sun. At a cave entrance, these two temperature regimes mix together to create a unique thermal signature that, depending on the time of day, can be either warmer or cooler than the surrounding environment.
"The caves show up as hotspots in a sea of cold, or as cold spots in a sea of warmth," said study team member Murzy Jhabvala, chief engineer of the Instrument Systems and Technology Center at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.
The data, still being analyzed, look promising. In one series of images, the researchers snapped thermal images of Xenolith Cave in New Mexico over a 24-hour period. The cave opening can be seen clearly in some of the images.
"It jumps out at you," said Jut Wynne, a biospeleologist (cave biologist) with the U.S. Geological Survey and Northern Arizona University. "It lights up like a Christmas tree in the predawn and in the late-night shots. It's a bit more ephemeral during the day shots."
In Phase 2, the researchers will tweak their technique to figure out the best wavelengths to use and optimal times during the day for cave hunting. "In so doing, we're going to take these applications and then apply them to an orbiter platform for Mars," said Wynne, who is also the Earth-Mars Cave Detection Program project leader.
iontruo2--> Pardon me friends if I look like got a case Mars Revealer.itis. I was trying to highlight the standout points I saw. :) hope they show.
...and whats up with The Seven Sisters theme and these sevens again? Methinks no mere coincidence. The seven filaments from the Star of Jesus tale, The seven sons from the Cruithien(3753 asteroid)King, The seven companions of the Star of Crossing(Sitchen), heck this list goes on.
Pics of the entrances to the Martian caves:
http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=070402_seven_sisters_02.jpg&cap=A+THEMIS+image+showing+entrances+to+possible+Martian+caves%2C+dubbed+the+%22seven+sisters.%22+Clockwise+from+upper-left%3A+Dena%2C+Chloe%2C+Wendy%2C+Annie%25
...and how about my ever favorite Phobos...with its constant 25degrees F disproportionate circular opening? Workerbees indeed.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q21/iontruo2/moc_tes_jointPhobos.jpg
So as we all continue to feel something is coming and the enviroment is already reflecting increased energies and fluctuations too obvious to be missed, I do believe we are going to wake up to a much bigger picture that includes many of the elements and not just one. Regularly scheduled cataclysms in this pinball alley? More than just a Global warming. Old civilisations and beings, sure why not?
Remember, Sitchen was never shown to be wrong and in fact he was working with NASA for quite some time and was on the Presidential Council. Serious high level involvement, more than just some of the guys that merely want to sell books.
Sword also afirmed to me Sitchin's truth. Maybe there is more, but he(Sitchen) was essentially on the mark.
P.S. Thanks Wayne and Blasted for you links etc. I'll go check them a.s.a.p.
Good news, I'll have high speed wireless by next week. Yahoo!
Sorry to be so lengthy there.
Point was to show some corroboration of Sunking's link dated this April 2007 with Swords remarks to Robert from June 2006.
A corroboration and signs of progression? Just a speculation.
i have downloaded the material from Courtney brown-
Whsn't he the one that got into it with Art Bell some time back-
I recall it didn't end well for Mr Brown-does anyone remember what that was all about and why-
It has no bearing on what i think of either of them-i was just curious.
Ericswan: Great Blog!
In our small community they showed the Gore movie, we showed the Great Global Warming Swindle.
General feelings: perhaps the lie isn't so bad because it will force us to clean up our environment - that is a good thing and that is what brings many people on board - not the debate of human cause or not. BUT: "yes we can stop it by cleaning up." ??? Go figure.
How is it possible that chemtrails are sprayed world wide with the blessings and compliance in keeping it all a secret by all of the governments?
Maybe I am looking at this from a mere human's point of view and that could be the problem. I just don't know. Why people are so willing to give up all of their freedoms for a prison planet is beyond me. Trusing the government to take care of them?? Lemmings jumping off a bridge.
Checking out all the great links. Thanks everyone
Tacodog
Thanx iontrue2
Sword DID have 'something'...what that something was remains an enigma as does many things...especially about Mars.
I remain convinced that the 'disclosure' of Extraterrestrial Intelligent Life can and WILL be found and disclosed from Cydonia BEFORE someone from the inside HIJACKS A STARSHIP. I wish I was wrong about that.
So...to anyone at Area51, WrightPatterson, Utah test range, JPL n NASA...POKE OUT THE TRUTH.
You SURELY can't STILL believe Georgie and Dickie Cheney after all the frackups they've been responsible for since they took office in Jan 2001?!
The BEST way to show your patriotism to your country is to OUT the TRUTH and EXPOSE the LIES.
It REALLY is that simple.
Bob...:D
http://www.commonsensecentral.blogspot.com/
Robert:
Hear Hear!
God Speed and Good Health to you and your wife.
Tacodog
SunKing,
Strange co-incidence that I was writing my post when you posted about finishing "1984."
I didn't see it while I was writing, yet I ended up including a mention of Orwell.
(play Twilight Zone music...)
must be a telepathic mind meld kinda thing. :)
Gort
LOL, Gort!
Definitely an odd, but interesting book.
***ALL HANDS***
Beware! George Benkel, BU, is showing an inordinate interest in FSHOD members in emails directed to me.
Somebody please send this jerk-off a computer virus, please? :)
Sword..What do you know that we don't? How is it you are saying that Mars went off course? Have you read David Booth's "Code Red- The Coming Destruction of The United States"...2004?????
David Booth, AKA Sorcha Faal is the originator of Planet X. He apparently had a vision in 2003 which indicated that Planet X would bump Earth further out from the sun.
Sunking...great pic for the blog.. thanks much..
I have to admit that I'm just "livid" with chemtrails blocking out the sun Thursday and going great guns again today but to no avail. The wind at altitude burned them off but they just kept coming. I took pics from 6 AM to 4PM. Jet after jet after jet. I think they actually took an hour off for lunch. I will check my time stamps and see.. hehe
ericswan
you are a bit off on the Booth subject/material.
I have Booth's book in pdf if you want it. Outstanding btw..
ton of other stuff re: him as well..
I've had him on my radar since the early 80's.. he had a vision of a plane
crash at O'hare.. which missed my house by about a mile...
David Booth IS NOT Sorcha Faal
Sorcha took over his website (name only) when he gave it up.
He too was pretty much silenced..
faked death.. got disappeared etc..
While his material is very related, He is NOT an 'originator' of PX. he was
trying to put pieces together like all the others.. His vision was initially
about yellowstone going kabooom.. which he tried to
factor in with a PX crossing YET TO COME.
just more pieces.. to jig around...
Hi guys,
Just a quick link drop here to some more video:
nw0.info! #New_World_Order
blasted...please do
cygnid@gmail.com.
I have a return file for you that says the two are one and the same. go figure..
The following cut and paste has me going a bit squirrallly....
BASF and Monsanto in Terrifying Alliance March 25th, 2007
BASF, a descendant of the Third Reich’s extermination industries, is teaming up with Monsanto to put pHood on your belly, biofuel in your SUV.
Have a nice day.
Via: STLtoday:
Monsanto Co. and BASF AG, a German competitor, on Wednesday promised to work together to deliver higher-yielding crops to meet increasing global demand.
The companies announced a $1.5 billion research and development collaboration that, over a decade or more, could deliver hundreds of varieties of genetically modified corn, soybeans, cotton and canola.
…
A unit of BASF uses computers and robotics to measure more than 1,000 important chemicals that plants produce. It can track changes in the chemicals to see how a plant functions differently with the addition or subtraction of a particular gene. And it can do so quickly on many plant samples, said Peter Oakley, a member of BASF’s Board of Executive Directors responsible for Agriculture, Health and Nutrition.
The company has compiled more than 1.5 million of these profiles for more than 35,000 genes. The resulting “genetic library” is a searchable database for researchers, he said.
The next important piece of the puzzle is a BASF Plant Science unit that rapidly measures about 20 performance characteristics in plant samples grown with promising genetic modifications. BASF can test 100,000 plants a year using this automated technology and those results, too, wind up in the database.
As a result, researchers can quickly find and characterize useful traits and prioritize their development, Oakley said.
With this technology, Monsanto “has just connected a firehose to our pipeline,” Grant said. He promised product development “more, better, faster.”
…
Europe’s concern over global warming and demand for renewable fuels from plant sources could outweigh apprehension about biotech crops, said Christine Bruhn, director of the Center for Consumer Research at the University of California-Davis. “If the benefits are appealing, the people in surveys say they would consider biotech crops,” she said.
If the world is to produce enough crops to feed people and livestock, while providing corn for ethanol and soybeans for biodiesel, farmers will need high-yielding biotech crops, the companies said.
“This collaboration brings something to the table that European farmers need just as much as American farmers, and that’s yield increases,” Oakley said. “It will become very, very difficult long term for European farmers to remain competitive without access to these technologies. … It’s a door opener in Europe.”
Fraley called yield “the Holy Grail of agricultural research — in part, because it has historically been one of the most complex characteristics to dissect scientifically. Today, we have the tools to tackle that opportunity,” Fraley said.
The benefits could extend around the world, Grant said.
“Whether you’re in Schleswig-Holstein or Bangalore, the real dilemma in the next decade is going to be how do you grow more with less,” he said. “I think it’s going to be the challenge for the planet.”
Barney,
i forgot to tell you great Blog and thanks for contributing! I would like to do more but i don't want to torture y'all with my writing any more than I already do.
Not that this has anything to do with chemtrails-but i was at the Vet with Angus the other day and he was saying that this pet food scare is really freaking out the vets because the food company is stone walling and won't release vital information on HOW that toxin made it into the system-or how long it's been in there.
I have to wonder if this was a Chinese warning shot: See what we can do to cats and dogs? We can do that to you too............
I fed one of my dogs a can of recalled Alpo about a week before they finally recalled it. He was fine, but i did notice a huge change in his appetite for about a week.
Sadly, as a processed food nation we have brought this on ourselves. I am going Organic as much as i can, but lets face it, its expensive. I have a brown thumb, so gardening is out of the question. I have tried-honestly, it was an utter failure. So what do you do?
Can't breathe the air, can't drink the water and can't feed the dog fucking kibbles.
We are doomed I believe-at least for the rest of MY lifetime. Maybe the kids will get it and really be the ones to change it.
Oops, I meant ERIC! SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its been a looong day.
anyhow aftyer reading that I wonder if the wheat they used was geneticaly engineered. all that franken Food thing just gives me the willies-
ericswan,
great post, thanks!
There must be a mass paradigm change to handle some of those problems. Not too rosy on several fronts as you point out but we at least have great seats for the show.
So as I read of Mars *follow the links* (even MR) from Robert and crew, and as I try to assess it with the added stimulus of Burisch rattling in my head, I toss this into the chemtrailed salad. Ben R. Rich in a presentation (skunkworks project guy) to a packed auditorium just before he said goodnight... (and I'm paraphrasing-likely not verbatim)
'Anything you can imagine
WE ALREADY KNOW HOW TO DO, we have the ability to TRAVEL AMONGST THE STARS, but this stuff is so locked up in black projects that it has little chance of seeing the light of day TO BENEFIT MAN.'
So in summation... lol, I'm not real happy with oil pigs tube feeding us hybrid cars, warped military economies, chemtrail soup, Cheney, rummy, shrub, congress, the senate, select corporations, secret starships, secret societies, knocked off the radar water cars, etc. etc. etc....
I am somehow, (delusionally so I s'pose,) optimistic or at least eager for the future (front row seats!), eager for more knowledge.
Hope darkwood, and t can tilt their perspectives and get back with us.
ion, anyone else, u just have to do and make happen the highspeed connection for the true warpdrive onslaught of info.
-Bryan
Crew,
In light of all that has happened, I don't care to engage in this behavior. My intentions are and always have been pure. My heart harbors only love and concern.
T...apparently,. you had made this decision some time ago.
Go in Peace.
Now YOU can Defend Rosie! lol
http://www.defendrosie.com/
New Sitchin book is out and am reading it. Will share some thoughts when done.
The Courtney Brown stuff, I am looking for things that tie it too Sitchins' work. Haven't found any yet. But, I thought the Chapter about the event on how Mars lost its atmosphere to be interesting at the very least.
Very timely post Eric. Thank you, I personally am of the mind that this is a solar system wide situation and that the TPTB are just not letting that out.
Wayne
Anyone notice that Scott Stevens site is off the air?
Ion, if there are 7 time lines intertwining no wonder I feel like sometimes I see things and blip they're gone. Weird shit that is. :\
bryansail,
good to hear you again. How is your work coming?
I am interested in seeing if the new Sitchin stuff connects in any way with the Courtney Brown stuff. There are some new connections ZS makes in his usual re-cap of his writings that he opens every book with. Reading on.
Wayne
Robert good morning.
you said:
Sword DID have 'something'...what that something was remains an enigma as does many things...especially about Mars.
iontruo2-->Yes, I'm with you on that. The holes or cave openings are an interesting them, as I have watched over the last two years, other examples of NASA's focus in that regard. An article I saw in a science journal, describe plans for using the lava tubes for a base with some design details.
Kind of reminds me of some of Hoagland's images of the so-called glass tubes on Mars. Some of the shots are pretty crystal clear.
So, down here on earth we have seen plenty of human emphasis on tunneling underground.
ie. The Moscow 'underground city' conference material I posted last year. One of the best ways I found to get a sense of the activity level was to look at the suppliers of the tunnel boring equipment. On their website they posted the numbers of units 'rented' to various countries. Only so many could be easily accounting for basic subways and ordinary transit tunnelling etc.
That is the easy stuff to grasp, while considering the interest in underground military bases is well enough known. Just seeing a shot of an Air Force tunnel boring machine tells me enough, in terms of much time as already been devoted to that end.
Cheyenne Mountain and The Deifenbunker(Cdn) are old well known examples of our work to those ends already. Surely NORAD as carried on with their developments.
Sword, also alluded to the idea of there being (i think?) 4 cities underground in the USA with mag lev transit between.
So, why not on Mars? ...and long before us.
Are the worker bees still there? Don't know of course, but the notion of a former civilisation using the very same principals as us to protect themselves, by establishing a presence underground is an easy conclusion.
Smoking Cydonian Pyramids on the other hand, looks more intriguing than just a large active volcano on IO for example.
Is it a terra forming intitiative on Mars or perhaps the exhaust of current activity, like homefire's burning?
Now we know they are actively looking for caves, with specific thermal signitures. Staying tuned on that front. ;)
Bryan-said:
ion, anyone else, u just have to do and make happen the highspeed connection for the true warpdrive onslaught of info. Saturday, April 07, 2007 2:39:00 AM
iontruo2--> Yes indeed, had sateltie for a while(too expensive), and am ripe now for some surf.ability. Three screens ready to rock! :) multitasking 101.
ssl4000g--Thanks for the SItchen reminder. I had forgotten the new book was out.
Please update us if you catch some interesting stuff, o.k?
scareltm--you said:
I have to wonder if this was a Chinese warning shot: See what we can do to cats and dogs? We can do that to you too............
iontruo2--> Now that is a dreaded thought! Good one. Does seem like their style.
How odd to realize as well that all those fancy brands like Eukaneuba and Iams etc with hugely varying prices all come from ONE maker. 48 brands all coming from the same source. Talk about fake competition and bogus pricepoints.
Ion,
Never thought about that. I am alarmed at how central it really is. I mean, HOW STUPID. makes you wonder how much is mirrored in the human food mfg. TPTB have warned us forever that our food is vulnerable to attack, i just also have to wonder if this could also be a trial run by THEM as well. Then blame it on (insert bad guy de jour here).
I mean reeally-what does a component of PLASTIC have to do with PET FOOD????? Oops wrong vat???? Doubt it.
In the last year we have had ecoli scares in variuos veggies, salmonella in the peanut butter, and now this. ALL IN A YEAR but the wost thing before all that was some nut putting cyanide in Tylenol some 25 years ago?! Just seems like this is way way to coincedental and that someone is indeed testing the waters here and now they are after Fluffy and Mr. Whiskers.
I'm not saying I want to believe it-but it does make me wonder.
I also wonder if this is just happening here or are other countries experiencing these problems contaminated food. You don't hear about the Russian's discovering that the potatoes used for Vodka were harvested (all by "accident")near Cherynobl.
I dunno. its common knowledge that you don't drink the water in Mexico-maybe its that we have higher sanitaion standards.
Were the Canadian's warned about the green onions and the spinach? Was it pulled from you shelves too?
Was all the pet food pulled from there? A glance at my local store shows very little wet food left on the shelves. I have a dog that is old and has lost some teeth, he HAS to have wet food...
Lately i have been making 2 extra helpings of dinner just for the dogs.
I make it semi seperately and don't include onion, garlic/ onion powder or salt. I then make a large bag of boil in bag rice, boil it in plain unsalted water and then throw all the cooked food/rice and leftover veggies into a food processor and feed him that. They love it. The Vet said to include a supplement and they should be fine for a while-at least till they can get this resolved.
I hope everyone has a safe and peaceful Easter.
seems demo charges are/were placed/built in at time of construction to facilitate a future 'pull'..?!?
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/
RADIORBIT - WAS THE WTC BROUGHT DOWN BY A BLAST OF EXTREME CAPITALISM?
Planned obsolescence, the Bin Laden building bunch and Saudis with demolitions
Paul Laffoley, (http://www.laffoley.com/) in an interview on 02/12/07...
Paul is an extraordinary architect and artist whose work I have admired for years. I had no idea he had worked on the original WTC design team in the early 1960's until I interviewed him in February...I also had no intention of talking about 911 or anything like that...the program was focused on art, imagination and creativity...hah...but this little gem came out when we were talking about his background...
Anyhow, here's the clip where he talks about the WTC and what happened on 911.
http://www.mikehagan.com/2012/mp3/clips/laffoleywtc.mp3
It breaks the case... Mike Hagan
Full Interview:
http://www.mikehagan.com/2012/mp3/021207_PAUL_LAFFOLEY.mp3
Comments:
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hey Clamytoe. damn dude!
You oughtta know better.
Turnin a pack rat like me loose on a cache like dat! All At once?!?
kid in a candy store gone wild.
lol.. holy moly
now I hasta get yet another.. hard drive.. frak.
should prolly start billing ya, too.
Hey Guys,
The Easter Bunny brought lots of chocolate eggs and something else:
SLEET!
Burrrrr
Just finished the new Sitchin book. TO not spoil the read for others I will just cover something that I think is important to us.
Jerusalem was the second generation Mission Control Center with the Pyramids serving as beacons guiding ships to the landing zone in the Sinai. Abrahams people, according to both the Bible and pre-Bible writings are Yahweh's chosen people. Yahweh (God) gave them the territory from the Great Sea (Mediterranean) to the Great River (Euphrates) on the condition that they secure those borders by "placing their feet" there. Basically, by having a presence in the land. The giving of the land to the Israelites by God I am sure still is known today and most likely figures heavily in the actions we see occurring in the geo-politcal sense.
So, whether its about stargates or divine destiny the fight will remain in the ME. Sitchin tightened up a few other loose ends such as; the last crossing of Nibiru was 556 BC, it's orbital period may have been altered to somewhat less than 3600 years and Miranda, a moon of Uranus was once a moon of Nibiru. There are some other things, mostly centered on the choice of "Time" and which version of time is the relevant one to history (Divine or Celestial). He again makes a lot of sense in his presentation, but all his points are not things we have heard or read from other sources. Only reaffirmations of his work or out and out debunking.
Wayne
Sleet? In Pensacola? On Easter? That's gotta be a first! A little Brrrr-o-rama over here, too, but no sleet Thank ya Jaysus!
Wayne,
You should do a 'book report' for a blog.
What's the name of this book?
I've one of ZS's 'Expedition' books where he talks about the large stones at the base of the Temple Mount being the same as at Baalbek. I found his info about the Temple Mount interesting, revealing info that I had never heard discussed before.
Hi all,
Oh joy, true high speed has entered my world. 2.5 mbs to start today. Woohoo, out of the dial-up cave and into a rocket.
scarletm
I use a dry feed from the Blue Seal line, a premium series now called "Nature". Total organic no preservatives, no soya, no wheat etc and it comes from a smaller company in New England. I think my dog will be o.k.
Friggin Chinese, how do you get 'melamine' in a feed?
sssl4000g- Wayne, I went out late last night and picked up a copy of Sitchen- End of Times.
Jamming through it this morning, the hair on the back of my neck is standing on end big time.
What is weird for me is I feel like I am remembering. A sense of remembering something I already knew from ancient past. Odd.
So far, what is showing for me is that the message again is that 'history essentially repeats itself' in many facets. Repeatings that we are seeing right now in places like Baghdad.
Same stuff, same technologies, same struggles, same places, round and round it goes, like, again, nothing new under the sun.
Ion, Welcome to the 21st century!
SK:
Yeah, honest to Pete- We had on and off sleet for about an hour this AM. I'm sure it will make the news somewhere. I pity the people who went to outdoor sunrise services at the beach. It must have been miserable.
The thing thats so weird about the sleet is that it only hit the more coastal parts. Normally, an event like this would have been inland as it's always just a bit warmer on the coast. Also, when i looked at the temp outside it was 41!
It was all very weird.
Abwoon d'bwashmaya
Nethqadash shmakh
Teytey malkuthakh
Nehwey tzevyanach
aykanna d'bwashmaya aph b'arha.
Hawvlan lachma d'sunqanan yaomana.
Washboqlan khaubayn (wakhtahayn)aykana daph khnan shbwoqan l'khayyabayn.
Wela tahlan l'nesyuna
Ela patzan min bisha.
Metol dilakhie malkutha wahayla wateshbukhta l'ahlam almin.
Ameyn.
From the Sermon on the Mount
Ion,
Exactly it, on the repeating thing. Maybe you and I should put together a "report" on the book. That would make it more intersting I would think. Eh, sk?
Wayne
Thanks fool!
Any special reason you put it up in Aramaic?
I think that would be an awesome language/skill to master..
Do You know it at all?
..got any good swear words? .. lol :P
for those interested:
Translation
Thanks Wayne/Ion for the book info.. mine is on the way.
Fact, fiction or faction, they are fascinating reads.
SK,
Sitchin maintains that Baalbek is the ONLY structure to have survived the 'flood'.. dunno if I buy into that..
I'd say it's the only one still out in the open, not underwater or sand etc.. that we have been 'allowed' to know of..
simply because it's too damn big to hide.. lol.. anyways, it IS an incredible piece of work though..
so is the mount of course, as well...
Interesting explanation at the bottom of his web page:
http://www.sitchin.com/
~snip~
Built Before the Flood
Who was that “someone?” What technology was used for the incredible feat? When and Why was it all done?
The Maronite Christians who for generations deemed themselves custodians of the site (before they were displaced by the Shiite Moslems) told legends of the “giants” who had built the colossal platform. I found the answers in the ancient Sumerian texts, and related them in The Stairway to Heaven and The Wars of Gods and Men.
The great stone platform was indeed the first Landing Place of the Anunnaki gods on Earth, built by them before they established a proper spaceport. It was the only structure that had survived the Flood, and was used by Enki and Enlil as the post-Diluvial headquarters for the reconstruction of the devastated Earth.
It is the only structure on Earth from before the Flood.
ZECHARIA SITCHIN
And I find this quite interesting:
Sitchin on NOAH’S ARK
~snip~
"After the Deluge, a relenting Enlil joined Enki at a mountaintop laboratory to reconstitute there the animals (starting with sheep) and crops (starting with wheat and barley) from the saved DNA. Several Sumerian texts, cited in my books The Twelfth Planet and Genesis Revisited describe the process in great detail. "
What has been the most prolific in the genetics arena regarding cloning and crops etc??
Why Sheep and Wheat.. go figure eh??
And of course, everybody gotta get in the act, right?:
Sitchin on the Mars 'Face'
And... and.. well, lots there.. lol..
Ion, Welcome back to da future! lol..
Speed IS good. now that yer all souped up, got a BIG hard drive ??
I can email ya tons o' stuff ??
(sorry, haven't figgur'd out how to do spliffs yet..)
lemme know if ya lost anything when yer pc crapped out.. I may have it.
if its 'shod related in any way, or was posted, I most assuredly do. :)
I know I put up a gazillion things past.. not to mention the others..
quite a collection for sure.
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On your remeberings of ancient things.. you are not alone.
We went around with this before, when sword was droppin crumbs, if ya recall.
it was a GREAT thread/discussion goin there.. I am quite convinced of the phenomena
myself, as I KNOW things that I have no explanation for.
it's in the genes, or aether as it were.. akashic.
Triggers all over the place.. some so much more pronounced than others.
shit's a trip man.
later
Wayne.. btw.. Scott Stevens site back online today.. I see no changes however.
and this.. been following the water wars of late? just another huge happening going mostly unnoticed for the most part.. he is pretty wacky at times.. but he aint kiddin. it is coming..
"April 08, 2007 posting ... GOOD EASTER MORNING ... as you awaken on this day ... whether you are Christian or Muslim or Buddhist or any other sect of belief ... you all have one thing in common ... as you wake and see the morning news ... a world wide take over of water has begun today ... remember last friday was the deadline date of many years of "study and compilation" by the "worlds leading climate scientists" to reveal that the earth is headed for a "global warming" and "DROUGHT" disaster which "will include the large cities" and down to the poorest countries of the world (the ones that the world bank loves to get their claws into for their resources) ... note the amazing contradiction as i pointed out many times ... there will be SO MUCH FRESH WATER flooding into the seas from the earth's ice caps that ocean levels will rise 20 to 50 feet ... yet there is going to be a "water shortage" ... note the timing to place this "news" on easter sunday with a world wide captive audience ... as water companies take over one after the other distribution systems of water to cities and municipalities ... in your home town and around the world ... as i said ... GOOD EASTER MORNING 2007 ... a day you will remember for a long time if you do not take steps to supply yourself with fresh water ... as you see ... there is not a water shortage ... but a vast overabundance of fresh water ... what you will see is a controlled shortage and distribution manipulation that will make the past decades of "oil shortage" look like nothing ... jim mccanney"
Just a let know I am trying to finish up this chapter... But I swear... THIS WILL NOT LET ME!!!
Not leaving me the PAUSE MOMENT I thought I had to give. :-(
Anyway... BIZZARRE!
I SEE ATTRIBUTES OF THINGS I SEEN SO FAR OF SWORD SOMEHAT CONNECTING TO DEFINITION ATTRIBUTES TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE MESSAGE. What a long read though.
Part 5b...
http://www.martianrevelation.com/FaceOfMarsBrothersPart5b.html
snagged these from an old Cyberspace orbit/Agenda21 page here:
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/agenda21.html
some may be dead, moved etc..
WATER CONTROL LINKS
2005 Senate Bill 5113
(Regarding rainwater collection permit) Looks like a trial-balloon to see what they can get away with.
Defra, UK- Environmental Protection-Water
Land and Water Links Database
Commission on Sustainable Development (CSD)
The Financing for Development (FfD) Office
The Privatisation of Water
Sustaining Water
WATER WARS
The Water Page
WHOSE WATER IS IT ANYWAY?
The Global Water Crisis and the Commodification of the World's Water Supply
NRSD WATER-RELATED LINKS
Check out some of these advisors.(Swaziland)
Proceedings of the First Water Jet Symposium
WATER - HUMAN RIGHT OR COMMODITY?
The Ombudsman Centre for environment and development
Water Footprints
Green Pages
Global Environmental Monitoring System
Business of the Environment Online
Sustainable Water Management
Water Resources in the Middle East : a bibliography
Foundation of IETC [water]
Paradox of Water Wars on Blue Planet
Water Barons Exposed:
Water privatization and the rising conflict
Blue Gold:
Chartered Institution of Water and Environmental Management
BNSC Market Sector Studies Programme - UK Water Industry
Arizona Water
China Water
China Water 2
HB-1433 REPEAL and LEGISLATIVE MALPRACTICE
The final Bill incorporates Well Volume Monitoring, or in plain English, requires that every water well be fitted with a water meter.
Government Meters On Private Water Wells Coming Paying Tax On Water You Already Own
Blasted - Hehehe, that's over 70GB's of data there on that site, I hope that you have fun going over it.
All - Although not a thorough investigation, while trying to find some statistics on allergy cases, I've discovered that all of the data out there stops at around 1996! How can it be that over ten years of data hasn't been examined and reported? Are we just not being shown what we all suspect, that cases have increased? More proof that chemtrails are in fact at fault?
There is a government sponsored data base up and running as per 2005 legislation for Canada and U.S. citizens.
Every single driver's license with data including pic is available online, free and incredibly quick.
You...are....in...it.
WTF...
http://www.license.shorturl.com
FYI link on the GW issue; http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17997788/site/newsweek/
April 16, 2007 issue - Judging from the media in recent months, the debate over global warming is now over. There has been a net warming of the earth over the last century and a half, and our greenhouse gas emissions are contributing at some level. Both of these statements are almost certainly true. What of it? Recently many people have said that the earth is facing a crisis requiring urgent action. This statement has nothing to do with science. There is no compelling evidence that the warming trend we've seen will amount to anything close to catastrophe. What most commentators—and many scientists—seem to miss is that the only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes.
Wayne
Very Cute Eric... :)
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I have been reading the Courtney Brown stuff and I have to say I'm a little..skeptical. I was very open to it all until he starts doing un monitored sessions, and then pretty much starts ignoring protocol.
I'm really happy that Jesus loves the Greys and all that but my BS detectors are just really going off here.
Thus far I haven't seen one thing in there that has come to pass. Now, I am not finished yet. I am about 1/2 way though-
Any pointers as I finish?
I am glad I have been exposed to it-I just really don't know where to put it on a reality scale.
The one thing that I am very interested in is the subspace beings. That is about the onlything thus far that is making any sense to me.
I think Blasted has keyed into the main issue that Global Warming provides. It's a big push to take away our rights to fresh water. Try and figure out which multinational is going after the air, earth, fire, and water. How about air? In a way, this is about Kyoto credits and the U.N. It's also NASA and space supremacy. The earth is precisely the issue of BASF/Monsanto and their gambit to control as much of the food reproduction in the world as genetic engineering will allow. Fire is easy. Water is the hard one to control but as Blasted has already pointed out even collecting rainwater can be a considered proprietary.
One of the recently disturbing NAFTA meetings included three Premiers on a mission to Washington last month in an effort to get Homeland Security to lighten up on the requirement for passports between Canada and the U.S. At least that's what they said. Now, it appears, Ontario's premier has deemed it necessary to put a tax on the Great Lakes Water Basin but so as not to worry Coke or other bottled water companies, the tax amounts to less than $2.00 Cdn. per million litres. Well, ain't that special? The NAFTA connection is that anytime Canadians start selling water to U.S. companies, they must maintain the level of sales and not cut back. The only way out of the agreement to sell water is to give six months notice and cancel the NAFTA agreement. The plan to sell water has to be disguised carefully so as to not to be seen to selling water which most Canadians think is an abomination. So they did it this way................
Tuesday, April 3, 2007
Nafta
Ontario to tax water bottlers Apr 03, 2007 04:30 Kerry Gillespie Peter Gorrie The province plans to slap a fee on companies that bottle large amounts of water taken from the Great Lakes basin, the Star has learned. But legislation to be introduced today in the Legislature isn't expected to set a firm dollar figure on the water-taking fees, sources said. Instead, the government will simply authorize itself to consult and negotiate details with affected parties, including the booming bottling industry, which is expected to oppose any additional costs on its operations. The legislation would also enshrine into law a deal signed in December 2005 by Ontario, Quebec and eight U.S. states to strengthen restrictions on bulk water exports out of the Great Lakes. It's aimed mainly at preventing states in the south and Midwest – whose water supplies are running low – from tapping into the lakes. Both measures are part of the government's attempt to paint itself as environmentally green in the run-up to the provincial election in October. However, it's not clear whether the negotiations with the bottlers and other commercial water users – or the fees to be imposed – would be complete by voting day. Even so, a Liberal source trumpeted the move. "There's a real recognition, it starts with the premier and goes on down through the government, that we can't just sit idly by and wait for others to do something on the environment," the source said. "We have to take some initiative ourselves and that means, where we can, working across borders with states and provincial counterparts to either clean up the air we breathe or the water we depend on," the source said. The fee on commercial water users was part of the Liberal platform in the 2003 provincial election campaign. "We will stop allowing companies to raid our precious water supplies," campaign documents stated. The province imposes only a tiny charge for its mandatory permits for taking large amounts of water. During the campaign, the Liberals accused the previous Conservative governments headed by Mike Harris and Ernie Eves of giving a free ride to the province's fastest-growing beverage business. "Companies that want to take oil from the ground or trees from the forest have to pay for that privilege. ... But when companies want to bottle our water or export it as part of other products, the Harris-Eves government gives it to them free and without any consideration of the impact on local aquifers," the campaign literature said. "We will end this reckless giveaway." That promise was based on incomplete information, Elizabeth Griswold, executive director of the Canadian Bottled Water Association, said in a radio interview last year. The industry insists it's not a threat to the province's groundwater supply and complains it is being unfairly singled out. Although consumption of bottled water in Canada jumped nearly 20 per cent between 2004 and 2005, provincial statistics show bottlers take less than two-tenths of 1 per cent of all the water extracted from Ontario's lakes, rivers and underground streams, the association stated in a report last year. "The amount of water that we're using as an industry is equal to the amount 10 golf courses use in a year," Griswold said. The Liberals' proposed legislation does not spell out exactly what constitutes large amounts of bottled water. The Liberals "didn't understand the bottled water industry," she said. "Bottled water is not a threat to Ontario groundwater resources." Some 40 million people live on both sides of the border in the Great Lakes basin, which holds 20 per cent of the world's fresh surface water. The basin encompasses the land bordering the lakes and the rivers that feed the lakes. Fear over the future of the lakes spiked in 1998 when Harris's government issued a permit to export up to 600 million litres of water a year from Lake Superior for sale in Asia. The permit was later revoked and Ontario now bans all Great Lakes water diversion. Public outrage on both sides of the border sparked the process of getting the Great Lakes-St. Lawrence River Basin Sustainable Water Resources Agreement – the second part of today's announcement. It took years of negotiations to get to a deal that Ontario was willing to turn into legislation. "During those negotiations Ontario was able to get state governments to come a lot further than they had originally anticipated in providing protection in Great Lakes water," the Liberal source said.
hey scar..
ya, Courtney Brown stuff IS 'Out There'..
lol, perhaps THAT is the "speculative" parts??
He puts it as "Speculative" Non-Fiction..
"The ideas presented in these speculative nonfiction books certainly appear outrageous at first glance. Maybe they are. But the world is often much stranger than we allow ourselves to imagine. If you are intellectually curious and truly willing to pursue possible ideas wherever they may lead, then you might want to follow the hypotheses presented in these volumes and the slowly developing evidence that either confirms or destroys them. If it turns out that the perceptions and hypotheses presented in these volumes are false, then we have learned an important lesson, which is that remote viewing cannot be reliably utilized to explore such esoteric realms. But if any of the primary perceptions and hypotheses turn out to be correct, we will have initiated an intellectual revolution of science and society the likes of which have never before been seen on this planet."
If you do a just simple news search for 'great lakes water', you'll see it is really ratcheting up too..
there are so many links and articles available..
.. in plain site.. yet vewy vewy quiet.. for now.
with deep global gouging to come later, of course..
Thanks for making me re read that.
Smart of him to put in a weasel clause. LOL.
At least I have been exposed to it-I can build on it as other information either confirms or denies it.
An interesting note.
I have to wonder what it is about April 9th.
Today in 1865 Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox. Yes, a sad day to a Southerner ;)
But it was also 4 years (4 YEARS?!?!?!) since the "fall of Baghdad"
Neither place has been the same since-
April 9th in History
1667: First ever public art exhibition opens in Paris
1682: La Salle claims lower Mississippi (Louisiana) for France
1770: Capt James Cook discovers Botany Bay (Australia)
1865: The American Civil War ends with the surrender of the Confederate forces
1940: German forces invade Denmark and Norway during World War 2
1947: Atomic Energy Commission formed
1957: The Suez Canal, Egypt, is cleared and opens to shipping
1980: Israeli troops move into Leanon
1991: Georgia votes to seceede from the USSR
April 9, 1626 Francis Bacon, Viscount St. Albans, statesman, dies
April 9, 1557 Michael Agricola, Finnish theologist/church reformer/bishop, dies
April 9, 1553 Francois Rabelais, French author (Gargantua/Pantagruel), dies at 49
April 9, 1492 Lorenzo de' Medici, Florentine statesman, dies
April 9, 1483 Edward IV, King of England (1461-70, 71-83) dies at 38
April 9, 1024 Benedict VIII, [Theophylactus van Tusculum], Pope (1012-24), dies
April 9, 715 Constantine I, Greek/Syrian Pope (708-15), dies
April 9, 715: Constantine ends his reign as Catholic Pope
http://www.brainyhistory.com/days/april_9.html
1991: Georgia votes to seceede from the USSR
With little editing one can put:
1991: Georgia votes to seceede from the USA LOL
Ya right scar, I not a big FAN of the SRV ting.. too much Lame Ed Dames crap for sure..
..BUT the 'sub space' stuff.. souls, spirit etc. and the difficulties he presents with correlating communication/symbolism between the realms, as it were.. bears striking resemblance to the scenario's I have encountered via dreams. It's the symbolism form of communication I find most fascinating.. and worthy of further investigation.
There is just way too much unexplainable 'paranormal' stuff out there to ignore.. regardless how ya try to logically 'splain it away.
I know we tried to go there in the past.. without much success. The topic sure seemed to generate alot of resistance back then, If I recall properly.
I think a lot of the resistance had to do with a certian member (who shall remain nameless) who thought that Penn&Teller were the next think Gods...Penn and Teller thought it was bunk so therefore it was complete hogwash.
I wish there was more info out there on the subspace beings as they are the only part of the scenario that clicks with me as well. It explains ghosts, angels, demons... a whole host of things.
How increidbly timely..no pun intended:
From The New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/09/technology/09blog.html?ei=5090&en=52ed112ca37ec909&ex=1333771200&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print
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April 9, 2007
A Call for Manners in the World of Nasty Blogs
By BRAD STONE
Is it too late to bring civility to the Web?
The conversational free-for-all on the Internet known as the blogosphere can be a prickly and unpleasant place. Now, a few high-profile figures in high-tech are proposing a blogger code of conduct to clean up the quality of online discourse.
Last week, Tim O’Reilly, a conference promoter and book publisher who is credited with coining the term Web 2.0, began working with Jimmy Wales, creator of the communal online encyclopedia Wikipedia, to create a set of guidelines to shape online discussion and debate.
Chief among the recommendations is that bloggers consider banning anonymous comments left by visitors to their pages and be able to delete threatening or libelous comments without facing cries of censorship.
A recent outbreak of antagonism among several prominent bloggers “gives us an opportunity to change the level of expectations that people have about what’s acceptable online,” said Mr. O’Reilly, who posted the preliminary recommendations last week on his company blog (radar.oreilly.com). Mr. Wales then put the proposed guidelines on his company’s site (blogging.wikia.com), and is now soliciting comments in the hope of creating consensus around what constitutes civil behavior online.
Mr. O’Reilly and Mr. Wales talk about creating several sets of guidelines for conduct and seals of approval represented by logos. For example, anonymous writing might be acceptable in one set; in another, it would be discouraged. Under a third set of guidelines, bloggers would pledge to get a second source for any gossip or breaking news they write about.
Bloggers could then pick a set of principles and post the corresponding badge on their page, to indicate to readers what kind of behavior and dialogue they will engage in and tolerate. The whole system would be voluntary, relying on the community to police itself.
“If it’s a carefully constructed set of principles, it could carry a lot of weight even if not everyone agrees,” Mr. Wales said.
The code of conduct already has some early supporters, including David Weinberger, a well-known blogger (hyperorg.com/blogger) and a fellow at the Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard Law School. “The aim of the code is not to homogenize the Web, but to make clearer the informal rules that are already in place anyway,” he said.
But as with every other electrically charged topic on the Web, finding common ground will be a serious challenge. Some online writers wonder how anyone could persuade even a fraction of the millions of bloggers to embrace one set of standards. Others say that the code smacks of restrictions on free speech.
Mr. Wales and Mr. O’Reilly were inspired to act after a firestorm erupted late last month in the insular community of dedicated technology bloggers. In an online shouting match that was widely reported, Kathy Sierra, a high-tech book author from Boulder County, Colo., and a friend of Mr. O’Reilly, reported getting death threats that stemmed in part from a dispute over whether it was acceptable to delete the impolitic comments left by visitors to someone’s personal Web site.
Distraught over the threats and manipulated photos of her that were posted on other critical sites — including one that depicted her head next to a noose — Ms. Sierra canceled a speaking appearance at a trade show and asked the local police for help in finding the source of the threats. She also said that she was considering giving up blogging altogether.
In an interview, she dismissed the argument that cyberbullying is so common that she should overlook it. “I can’t believe how many people are saying to me, ‘Get a life, this is the Internet,’ ” she said. “If that’s the case, how will we ever recognize a real threat?”
Ms. Sierra said she supported the new efforts to improve civility on the Web. The police investigation into her case is pending.
Menacing behavior is certainly not unique to the Internet. But since the Web offers the option of anonymity with no accountability, online conversations are often more prone to decay into ugliness than those in other media.
Nowadays, those conversations often take place on blogs. At last count, there were 70 million of them, with more than 1.4 million entries being added daily, according to Technorati, a blog-indexing company. For the last decade, these Web journals have offered writers a way to amplify their voices and engage with friends and readers.
But the same factors that make those unfiltered conversations so compelling, and impossible to replicate in the offline world, also allow them to spin out of control.
As many female bloggers can attest, women are often targets. Heather Armstrong, a blogger in Salt Lake City who writes publicly about her family (dooce.com), stopped accepting unmoderated comments on her blog two years ago after she found that conversations among visitors consistently devolved into vitriol.
Since last October, she has also had to deal with an anonymous blogger who maintains a separate site that parodies her writing and has included photos of Ms. Armstrong’s daughter, copied from her site.
Ms. Armstrong tries not to give the site public attention, but concedes that, “At first, it was really difficult to deal with.”
Women are not the only targets of nastiness. For the last four years, Richard Silverstein has advocated for Israeli-Palestinian peace on a blog (richardsilverstein.com) that he maintains from Seattle.
People who disagree with his politics frequently leave harassing comments on his site. But the situation reached a new low last month, when an anonymous opponent started a blog in Mr. Silverstein’s name that included photos of Mr. Silverstein in a pornographic context.
“I’ve been assaulted and harassed online for four years,” he said. “Most of it I can take in stride. But you just never get used to that level of hatred.”
One public bid to improve the quality of dialogue on the Web came more than a year ago when Mena Trott, a co-founder of the blogging software company Six Apart, proposed elevating civility on the Internet in a speech she gave at a French blog conference. At the event, organizers had placed a large screen on the stage showing instant electronic responses to the speeches from audience members and those who were listening in online.
As Ms. Trott spoke about improving online conduct, a heckler filled the screen with personal insults. Ms Trott recalled “losing it” during the speech.
Ms. Trott has scaled back her public writing and now writes a blog for a limited audience of friends and family. “You can’t force people to be civil, but you can force yourself into a situation where anonymous trolls are not in your life as much,” she said.
The preliminary recommendations posted by Mr. Wales and Mr. O’Reilly are based in part on a code developed by BlogHer, a network for women designed to give them blogging tools and to guide readers to their pages.
“Any community that does not make it clear what they are doing, why they are doing it, and who is welcome to join the conversation is at risk of finding it difficult to help guide the conversation later,” said Lisa Stone, who created the guidelines and the BlogHer network in 2006 with Elisa Camahort and Jory Des Jardins.
A subtext of both sets of rules is that bloggers are responsible for everything that appears on their own pages, including comments left by visitors. They say that bloggers should also have the right to delete such comments if they find them profane or abusive.
That may sound obvious, but many Internet veterans believe that blogs are part of a larger public sphere, and that deleting a visitor’s comment amounts to an assault on their right to free speech. It is too early to gauge support for the proposal, but some online commentators are resisting.
Robert Scoble, a popular technology blogger who stopped blogging for a week in solidarity with Kathy Sierra after her ordeal became public, says the proposed rules “make me feel uncomfortable.” He adds, “As a writer, it makes me feel like I live in Iran.”
Mr. O’Reilly said the guidelines were not about censorship. “That is one of the mistakes a lot of people make — believing that uncensored speech is the most free, when in fact, managed civil dialogue is actually the freer speech,” he said. “Free speech is enhanced by civility.”
we are on da proverbial "Bleeding Edge".. as we have first hand(s) experience with
all sides of this debate.. and methinks it ain't over by a loooong shot.
steady as she goes..
I guess I was trying ti illustrate that we are not alone in this.
Bleeding Edge.....yeah babeeeeee!!
"Free Speech is enhanced by civility".
That's it in a nutshell! Amen!
Thanks for that, scarlet
For those unfamiliar with the concept:
ci·vil·i·ty (sĭ-vĭl'ĭ-tē)
n., pl. -ties.
1. Courteous behavior; politeness.
2. A courteous act or utterance.
civility
noun
1. Well-mannered behavior toward others: courteousness, courtesy, genteelness, gentility, mannerliness, politeness, politesse. See courtesy/discourtesy.
2. A courteous act or courteous acts that contribute to smoothness and ease in dealings and social relationships amenity (used in plural), courtesy, pleasantry, politeness, propriety (used in plural). See courtesy/discourtesy.
Well, the most obvious changing dynamic with global warming this past month is the seeming ramp up of Big Bidness to get on the band-wagon. I first noticed this last summer with the head of Shell Oil stating, in an interview on NBC's Today show, that Global Warming is a reality and here to stay. That set off alarm bells in my head.
The past few month have seen many corporations jumping on the band wagon.
I think it just took that long for them to realize how they could make money off of 'the fear'...and now that programme is in place and growing.
"Global Warming - A BIG Business Opportunity!"
Well, I see that Sunking has not responded to my knee-jerk request in similar fashion so I suppose I can stick it out awhile, meself, if tha's all right with y'all.
Certainly, we are not alone here on the subject of targeted bloggy nastiness and perhaps we should be just a tad more wary of it than most considering we had something of a heads up regarding the military's confession of viewing cyberspace as the next battlefield which was discussed here awhile back. So I suppose none of us should be particularly surprised.
Fact is, I recently also went and showed my a$$ over at "the other blog". I never mentioned it here because frankly it wasn't connected to anything happening here but was rather a response to someone starting some crap on my own personal blog for no apparent reason other than that I also happen to post here as well. Fact is, I'm just as human as anyone else and just as capable of bad judgement and knee-jerk cynicism. Ever since having made the hurtful statements that I did, I really have felt badly (both about the things I said as well as about allowing myself to be dragged into it in the first place) and have somewhat lapsed into silence because I just couldn't keep on like nothing ever happened. I stayed out of the last serving of weirdness (and I feel rightfully so) as much as I could mainly due to the fact that who am I to tell anyone how to act considering I'm just as capable of giving as I get regardless of who gets hurt?
I seriously hold no grudges and would like to think that no one has reason to do so for me. Given my rather lengthy diatribe above, though, I will go on record right now as stating that from henceforth I will endeavour to keep my posts on topic (at least to the spirit of the blog if not to the current post, hehe) and refrain from engaging in any discussions of a personal nature. That isn't to say that we can't all still be friends for I really do have great feelings for all of youse (and I do mean ALL of you whether you still post here or not) and will always be available via email for less "bloggy" discussion whether I've gone silent here or not.
scarlet:
I really found that civility article you posted to be rather thought provoking. I think the biggest reason for friction against the idea of some sort of blogosphere 'civility standard' has to do with the notion that setting such could open the door to later legislation tacking real world punishments onto unwanted cyber postings. Not to mention that deleted posts invariably leads to spurious discussion as to what was deleted and why (which we've certainly seen our share of here, as well). So, while I don't think there should be any adoption of and Internet wide standard as such, I do think that opening the discussion is a very good thing as I'm sure there are many bloggers out there who just don't realize how cruel and mean spirited, not to mention even traumatizing, that net trolling can be.
You also mentioned an interest in subspace beings from the Courtney Brown reading (which I agree is pretty "out there" and tend to lump remote viewing in with channeling and such, not because I think it's all bunk so much as it's just too subjective for proper validation). I wonder if you've ever looked much into Terrance McKenna? If not, then I suspect you might find his description of what he playfully refers to as the "machine elves" quite fascinating. I know I did. :)
DarkWood
Glad you're hanging with us Darkwood. You know how sk can be a bit slow on the draw sometimes. ;)
:)
Wayne
Darkwood,
Thanks for the link and I am glad you stayed. :)
I saw what happened to you on your blog. I mean, what have you ever done to deserve that kind of treatment?
They can accuse me of censorship all day long,(which isn't the case because that topic is open for discussion and has been for sometime now without much interest.) but what HE does is a form of it because it suppress people from posting out of fear of retaliation.
We all get testy from time to time but it has to do with deliberate, ill, intent.
We move forward and are doing a good job of it. I am very proud of you all who have made the effort to post and keep up some form of discussion. Let's keep going. :)
hummmmmm.. I wonder what this has to do with WX manipulation and how it fits in
Bill ties climate to national security
Seeks assessments by CIA, Pentagon
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/04/09/bill_ties_climate_to_national_security/
A warmer climate could prove to be more beneficial than the one we have now. Much of the alarm over climate change is based on ignorance of what is normal for weather and climate. There is no evidence, for instance, that extreme weather events are increasing in any systematic way, according to scientists at the U.S. National Hurricane Center, the World Meteorological Organization and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (which released the second part of this year's report earlier this month). Indeed, meteorological theory holds that, outside the tropics, weather in a warming world should be less variable, which might be a good thing.
In many other respects, the ill effects of warming are overblown. Sea levels, for example, have been increasing since the end of the last ice age. When you look at recent centuries in perspective, ignoring short-term fluctuations, the rate of sea-level rise has been relatively uniform (less than a couple of millimeters a year). There's even some evidence that the rate was higher in the first half of the twentieth century than in the second half. Overall, the risk of sea-level rise from global warming is less at almost any given location than that from other causes, such as tectonic motions of the earth's surface.
Many of the most alarming studies rely on long-range predictions using inherently untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately forecast the weather a week from now. Interpretations of these studies rarely consider that the impact of carbon on temperature goes down—not up—the more carbon accumulates in the atmosphere. Even if emissions were the sole cause of the recent temperature rise—a dubious proposition—future increases wouldn't be as steep as the climb in emissions.
Indeed, one overlooked mystery is why temperatures are not already higher. Various models predict that a doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere will raise the world's average temperature by as little as 1.5 degrees Celsius or as much as 4.5 degrees. The important thing about doubled CO2 (or any other greenhouse gas) is its "forcing"—its contribution to warming. At present, the greenhouse forcing is already about three-quarters of what one would get from a doubling of CO2. But average temperatures rose only about 0.6 degrees since the beginning of the industrial era, and the change hasn't been uniform—warming has largely occurred during the periods from 1919 to 1940 and from 1976 to 1998, with cooling in between. Researchers have been unable to explain this discrepancy.
Modelers claim to have simulated the warming and cooling that occurred before 1976 by choosing among various guesses as to what effect poorly observed volcanoes and unmeasured output from the sun have had. These factors, they claim, don't explain the warming of about 0.4 degrees C between 1976 and 1998. Climate modelers assume the cause must be greenhouse-gas emissions because they have no other explanation. This is a poor substitute for evidence, and simulation hardly constitutes explanation. Ten years ago climate modelers also couldn't account for the warming that occurred from about 1050 to 1300. They tried to expunge the medieval warm period from the observational record—an effort that is now generally discredited. The models have also severely underestimated short-term variability El Niño and the Intraseasonal Oscillation. Such phenomena illustrate the ability of the complex and turbulent climate system to vary significantly with no external cause whatever, and to do so over many years, even centuries.
Is there any point in pretending that CO2 increases will be catastrophic? Or could they be modest and on balance beneficial? India has warmed during the second half of the 20th century, and agricultural output has increased greatly. Infectious diseases like malaria are a matter not so much of temperature as poverty and public-health policies (like eliminating DDT). Exposure to cold is generally found to be both more dangerous and less comfortable.
Moreover, actions taken thus far to reduce emissions have already had negative consequences without improving our ability to adapt to climate change. An emphasis on ethanol, for instance, has led to angry protests against corn-price increases in Mexico, and forest clearing and habitat destruction in Southeast Asia. Carbon caps are likely to lead to increased prices, as well as corruption associated with permit trading. (Enron was a leading lobbyist for Kyoto because it had hoped to capitalize on emissions trading.) The alleged solutions have more potential for catastrophe than the putative problem. The conclusion of the late climate scientist Roger Revelle—Al Gore's supposed mentor—is worth pondering: the evidence for global warming thus far doesn't warrant any action unless it is justifiable on grounds that have nothing to do with climate.
Lindzen is the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. His research has always been funded exclusively by the U.S. government. He receives no funding from any energy companies.
Blasted...thanx for the docs which I have now consumed. Interesting read and topical to much of what Sword and his star of crossing was all about. I was particularily peeved by Sword's timeline of Jesus and the star as being every 3,600 years and this read has qualified for me at least, where Sword was getting his input. I read the other piece written by his daughter Deborah, and to me, she sounded more like Sorcha Faal than he does. I got the impression from you that David is dead but didn't see that anywhere in print. Could you elaborate a bit on this? I'm sure that Ion would appreciate a copy of this and will forward to any who want a copy of RED AlERT as it basically sorts through the Annunaki conspiracy from yet one more POV. It is interesting that Booth points out that the aliens have as much to do in the astral as they do on this plane. Sort of confirms what Clan Destine was saying about the neebels? in his igloo. hehehe
Blasted
I posted the prayer in Aramaic because that is the language he would have used. As I understand it, Aramaic is a "multilevel" language which allows for a wider variety of interpretations. It is also my understanding that Yeshua was also a psychologist and that Aramaic lends itself to showing that what is happening "without", is also happening "within". There is a dance between wave and particle, individual and community, inside and outside. It's called the middle way and that is the essence of the Lord's Prayer. The creation process of Unity is ongoing and we have to make space for it in our lives. Once we have a space for it, we have to invite it in and let it energize us and give us "vision".Then we have to use that vision in our lives. We have to combine heaven and earth, individual needs and community needs, in our lives. As an aside, we don't go to heaven, we go "into" heaven, meaning that we can merge with the diversity of Unity. The prayer in Aramaic highlights the subject of cycles, not so much time. 2000 years ago, people did not live by the wristwatch, but by the stars and the seasons. The bread of wisdom that we are supposed to use to get us through our times of trouble is a moment to moment situation. All we need to know is the next step, not 2 or 3 ahead. The prayer also touches on forgiveness and resonance. We get caught up in our separation from the cosmos and of others and we don't resonate in tune. We need to work to regain that resonance by letting go. The prayer touches on temptation and evil, but in Aramaic there is no word for evil. As I said earlier, the Aramaic culture was more about cycles and timing. Something that was evil was unripe, out of tune. Temptation is forgetfulness. It is forgetting our connection with Alaha, Divine Unity. It is our job to remember our connection to the Cosmos and to establish our timing, not to be unripe but to be ready when we are called to fulfill the vision we established at the beginning of the prayer. The end of the prayer ensures we remember that Divine Unity drives all, has been since "time" began and will continue to do so from cycle to cycle.
Aramaic is so much more expansive and inclusive,if that makes sense. Translation is a real problem. The prayer goes from oral tradition to being written down, which loses something. Then the prayer goes from Aramaic to Greek, then to Latin, then to English. It is painfully obvious that the whole essence was "lost in the translation".
With the 4 year anniversary of the fall of the great statue yesterday, let me restate what I posted once on RCH's Captain's Blog. Before the statue was pulled down, its face was covered by a United States Flag. The flag was not just willy-nilly flopped over the statue, but carefully placed and tucked by one of the soldiers. It resembled a pharoanic head-dress, with blue field of white stars covering the face and red and white stripes draped over the top and back and sides of the head. RCH mentioned on C2C that the soldier had been following orders. To me, it seemed like some kind of frat prank (skol and boneheads?) or some kind of ritual to "Mars" the god of war.
Also, when the Saddam that was "found" in a "rat hole" was exposed to the world, his diet was said to consist of a bag of Doritos ("little pieces of gold" Or "little golden ones") and a MARS candy bar.
That is more of what I mean when I speak of the "drama" of the Iraq war.
As to the possibility of a hidden stargate, that is a little beyond me at this time. But hey, why not? ;)
BTW, "the fall of the great statue" reminds me of a line from Firesign Theater, when they discover the great mural, and its title is "the Great Struggle of the Little People to Finish the Mural." LOL
Somewhere in the reallity of mainstream news archives, you may find that after the invasion of Iraq, the produce of the Iraqi oil fields was contracted out to two firms: (Royal Dutch) SHELL OIL, and BP (British Petroleum). One owned largely by the queen of the Netherlands, and the other owned largely by the queen of England.
It wasn't front page news, it was in the back of the paper in the business transaction section. Most americans probably think some US companies have the rights to the Iraqi oil. ha ha.
BTW seen the newer ads for BP, with the tag line: Beyond Petroleum. ? What EXACTLY does that mean? Hmmmm.
Gort
Fool,
Yeah, I was amazed at the marked difference between the Aramaic translation and the Lord's Prayer.
The Aramaic thought was more spiritual and beautiful.
Gort,
Interesting symbolism there.
Aha...Firesign Theatre...."Sit down and spread your stems baby while I tell you the story that I call '666'...I was sitting in my office one night...watching the rain pittter-patter on my desk top and reading my name on the back of the door...regnaD kciN"....
Darkwood,
Glad to see you. Good, measured, thought-provoking comments, too. Can't disagree with anything you said!
Gort,
I think it means just what I intimated yesterday...no matter what we do, them that control energy now will control it as we move beyond oil. Right now it's all talk...media psy-op to make the peepul think that the people who stand the most to gain from continuing to control oil are actually working real hard to give us cleaner, better alternatives. THAT will be a long time coming.
But until that day, much time and research has gone into manipulating our thinking on the nature of these companies, who we gave record billions to last year.
Palast's book 'Armed Madhouse' gives a great insight to the workings of Big Bidness, represented by L. Paul Bremer and the CPA, in their effort to take control of the wealth of that country.
My eye's on you, Wayne.
LOL!
Sorry, but sometimes I exercise HOPE!
I came across an interesting tidbit recently with the Passover/Easter season.
A preacher I know mentioned that in the Exodus story, after Moses came down from the mountain with the commandments, he found out that the people had made a gold calf to worship. Moses was pissed and broke the tablets at the foot of the mountain. then: "He took the calf that they had made, burned it with fire, ground it to powder, scatterd it on the water, and made the Isrealites drink it." (Exodus 32.20) (NRSV)
My first though was about some new age nutritionalists who advocate drinking powdered gold for some reason.
But also I thought about Sitchen's stories of early humans being enslaved to dig gold for the "gods."
And maybe some veiled reference to the Isrealites being special because they have gold in their veins? (the golden jooish people, eh, BU)
and then there is Saddam and the Doritos!
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...
You never hear that tale, Gort?
I don't believe half of what I read in the Bible and certainly do not think it is the inerrant Word o' Gawd...but one MUST read it to survive in the literary world, no doubt.
So, one wonders did that make their colons glow?
Did they S#%T gold bricks?
Don't forget about 'The Gold of the Exodus' Gort. Somewhere out there in the desert, there may be a fortune in Egyptian gold...and teh Egyptian's want it back, if you remember the news about 3 years ago.
Laurence Gardner is a MUCH better source of Biblical info/interpretation that Sitchen will ever be. ORME.
Yes SK. It's MUCH more insightful.
Global warming hits Mars
By Marlowe Hood
April 06, 2007 12:00
GLOBAL warming could be heating Mars four times faster than Earth due to a mutually reinforcing interplay of wind-swept dust and changes in reflected heat from the Sun, according a study.
Scientists have long observed a correlation on Mars between its fluctuating temperatures - which range from -87 C to - 5 C (-125 F to 23 F) depending on the season and the location - and the darkening or lightening of swathes of the planet's surface.
The explanation is in the dirt.
Glistening Martian dust lying on the ground reflects the Sun's light - and its heat - back into space, a phenomenon called albedo.
But when this reddish dust is churned up by violent winds, the storm-ravaged surface loses its reflective qualities and more of the Sun's heat is absorbed into the atmosphere, causing temperatures to rise.
The study, published on Thursday by the British journal Nature, shows for the first time that these variations not only result from the storms but help cause them too.
It also suggests that short-term climate change is currently occurring on Mars and at a much faster rate than on Earth.
Its authors, led by Lori Fenton, a planetary scientist at NASA, describe the phenomenon as a "positive feedback'' system -- in other words, a vicious circle, in which changes in albedo strengthen the winds which in turn kicks up more dust, in turn adding to the warming.
In the same way, if a snow-covered area on Earth warms and the snow melts, the reflected light decreases and more solar radiation is absorbed, causing local temperatures to increase. If new snow falls, a cooling cycle starts.
For Earth, global warming is mainly associated with human activities - notably the burning of fossil fuels - that release carbon dioxide (CO2) into the atmosphere, trapping more of the Sun's heat.
But changes in our planet's average temperature can also be driven up or down by natural phenomena such as shifts in orbit or axis rotation, and the release of naturally-occurring greenhouse gases by volcanoes and vegetation.
On Mars, there have been an unusual number of massive, planet-darkening storms over the last 30 years, and computer models indicate that surface air temperatures on the Red Planet increased by 0.65 C (1.17 F) during from the 1970s to the 1990s.
Residual ice on the Martian south pole, they note, has steadily retreated over the last four years.
By comparison, the average temperature of Earth increased by 0.75 C (1.33 F) over the last century.
To measure the change in patterns of reflected light, Fenton and her colleagues compared thermal spectrometer images of Mars taken by NASA's Viking mission in the late 1970s with similar images gathered more than 20 years later by the Global Surveyor.
They then analyzing the correlation between albedo variations, the presence of atmospheric dust and change in temperature.
Exactly what triggers the planet's so-called "global dust storms'' remains a mystery.
But any future research must now consider albedo variations as one of the factors that drive Martian climate change, they conclude.
Mars is the fourth planet from the Sun, with a surface area of about 230 million square kilometers (90 million square miles). The Red Planet rotates on its axis every 24.62 hours, and its year lasts 686.93 Earth days. Its atmosphere is composed mostly of carbon dioxide.
The albedo of Earth, averaged across all its different surfaces, is about 30 times greater than that of Mars, which is far darker.
Fool, you made me look it up and found what I was thinking about when I read Gort's post.
http://www.halexandria.org/dward466.htm
I'm sure there may be better sites with better info, but.....
Eric, very interesting blog. Are chemtrails contributing to global warming? Is the Earth an oblate spheroid?
In my opinion, in the so called First World nations at least, automobiles have been getting a bad rap for emissions. Yes, cars and especially badly maintained cars pollute, but not on the scale I think they are made out to be. Since about 1967, there have been tightening standards and improving technology have been reducing tailpipe emissions for years. Add to that the attrition rate of older vehicles that are taken out of daily service. Really ancient cars still used as daily drivers is pretty rare and most of those cars have been restored back to original specs and kept that way. Cars that are gross polluters are pretty much on their way to the great garage in the sky as they are in such bad shape they are not long for this world.
If factory smokestacks were subject to ever increasing standards of emissions as cars have been for 40 years and enforced, the air would be even cleaner. Yet, for all that, chemtrails have done something to the sky, that not even the rural areas can escape. I remember the skies away from population centres in the 1960's to be very clear and the light has a certain indefinable quality to it that I don't see anymore. I see more chemtrailing over cities than I do rural areas, but rural areas are not spared by any means. The thought of all these metals raining down from the sky is appalling. How much would the health of humans and also of the Earth improve by stopping this practise? How soon would we see the improvement? I'm of a mind that we would see the Earth heal herself faster than we will ever see the so called benefits of chemtrails.
A truly clear blue sky day has become an incredible luxury these days. And a fleeting one.
WOW!! COINCIDENCES AY???
YET NO COLOR!!
The more things change,... the more things stays the same!
FOR SOME... THINGS. AY? ;-)
I... APPRECIATE... the HEADS UP! UPSIDE DOWN NO LESS! Ha ha ha ha ha.
195 MB also!
Ha ha ha ha ha!
http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/PSP/diafotizo.php?ID=PSP_003234_2210
MARS REVEALER
Detail COVERS THIS FACE!!!!
Perspective... ARTSCAPES.. TATTOO WORK!!
here is a real fast slop drawing example to show & all can play with. To get an UNDERSTANDING how to see the Face for what it REALLY SHOWS!
I see NO rocks & dirt!!! I see deliberate artistical rendering on a massive scale beyond comprehension. ;-)
This is of the Eye. I am going to do a detailed drawing which will take long amounts of time. But will be worth it. ;-)
http://www.martianrevelation.com/MR...stSlopDrawn.jpg
Again,.. it is only a fast slop drawing. The key is the art & the details is the ART!!!
NOT NATURAL order or coincidence!!
Starship..I've really lost all confidence in blogger in particular and the internet in general. There are supposed to be 75 million blogs out there and billions of posts per week but yesterday, a fairly poignant and revealing piece that I tried to submit was blocked. Wrong password or unknown username that was submitted 30 or more times and still not up on the web. The harsh part of this censorship is that it was strictly about personal observations concerning personal events albeit internet related. Obviously, there are things going on that TPTB don't want you or me to discuss on the internet. As of this moment, I feel like mainstream media. Filtered, faked and contributing to the overall confusion and obfuscation that we should "get used to it".
Hi guys and gals. Just have sec here.
The Fool Hi. Will email you back. :)
Mars Revealer Your link dead ends. Please repost the right address. Thanks.
ericswan Any chance we can do a work around? Have someone else try to post it, or something?
FWIW: If this "screening" and "blocking" is for real from the likes of Blogger-Google, that is certainly a shocking turn whereby they are actually reviewing and authoritating as to what gets posted by people!
Not even truly objectionable material, but, just their gesture of obstruction of subject matter.
How can politico's have blogs where they rant and rave and get especially caustic and rude, and your Blog post gets blocked? (rhetorical questions :( )
What I like about forums and the likes of G-deck was the independence and privacy as well as the free ability to post images WITH the dialogue.
We have been together here for quite some time and if this conduct from TPTB is systemic and a notable pattern then I suggest we evolve beyond them and go to another format.
Or perhap, use a very basic Blog as a way to invite members beyond it to a deeper more cohesive posting experience.
Bubba Hyde's initiative with the G-deck was not a bad concept in itself. I have been monitoring the flow at the Black Vault as well(nod to Mars Revealer ;) ), which follows a similar kind of format (only much bigger scale)
Just using links only takes us so far with stuff we are trying to tell each other about. So many pictures that probably get missed in a link or a thought that just doesn't come through well with an image companioning it.
I would pay to contribute to monthly costs. Anyone know what these cost? How about blocking the Bohemia entity out of our existing G-deck and carrying on there?
Gotta jet... wicked weather up here today!
cheers mates
oops. correction
or a thought that just doesn't come through well without an image companioning it.
Thanxs Ion. I'm going to "stew" about it for a bit. Gatekeepers are everywhere. Not much we can do about it. I would rather withhold for a bit than see the blog go "down" due to technical problems. I've been on some kind of a s&*^&*t list for going on 4 decades. My rose coloured glasses went opaque almost that long ago.
Eric,
Being an old computer guy, my first inclination is, sorry, user error. I know the only times I have had issues with posting a blog it has been some foulup with BLogspot at that moment...in which case I was able to click Back, copy/paste my blog entry into a Word .doc and try again later...whereupon it usually works.
Yeah...I hear ya, Ion...pictures...
Oh... dammm links... :-/
Remember this is only a fast slop trace. Just to get the idea out & for anyone to use to play with. :-)
http://www.martianrevelation.com/MROcyFaceEyeFastSlopDrawn.jpg
Sunking...you're right about that but then it manifests itself in a way that "wastes" your time and wears a body down.
eric swan to me
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Mark...I suppose I've been in the "green movement" since the founding meeting of The Green Party of Canada in 1981. That 3 day convention never did proceed past the hijackers and gatekeepers. We were in the political wilderness with a pack of wolves ready and willing to shred our time and our political will. I should have seen the "dark side" of politics having participated in conventions in the 60's and 70's but I didn't.
It took some getting used to but I've come to the conclusion (as I'm sure many before me) that politics is a mug's game. TPTB have that ace in the hole that is hard to overcome. They can time travel. Some think it's just remote viewing but the fact is we have free choice and when we use it, the path under our feet is not there to meet our destiny. So be it.
Chlorphill solar cells would be great but if the sun is opaque due to chemtrails worldwide, hardly a good solution to hang your hat. I have been surveilled and gatekeepered for many decades. Nothing I do or say goes unnoticed. I've seen some of my best work used against all comers who place their feet on that same path. I've had at least one attempt on my life. I've been economically crippled most of my life.
I'll give you an example. I set up a website called www.jessilynch.org which was the name that Jessica's friends call her in her hometown. On the day and specifically the time that Jessica was to be greeted by her hometown friends in a parade and specifially at 2:50PM on that date, the breaking news was that Saddam's sons had been killed in a shootout. Joe Vialls covers the two brothers and says their dead bodies were not the brothers but the fact remains that Jessica Lynch, the returning wounded war hero "triumphant" return home never made the news that day or even that week.
Joe died of a heart attack and when you realize the technology that is available, it's just the same as dozens of other "heart attacks" of freedom warriors worldwide.
There used to be ways of looking up lapsed websites but not mine.
www.e-ma-le.com
www.fe-ma-le.com
www.e-i-d.com
www.vancouver.cc
www.jessilynch.org
Here's a puzzle. www.jessicalynch.com was purchased two weeks before Jessi got into the battle where she was wounded and captured two weeks before it took place.
Sunking,
Thanx for the halexandria link.
I to check it out further when I have more time.
Mrs. Gort recently got high-speed (yeah!) but she likes to use it herself and occasionally lets me check-in on the blogoshpere.
In fact, tonight is trash night, as she just remindeded me. ;)
Reminds me of a comedian recently who talked of Albert Einstein's wife saying ,"hey, Einstein, take out the garbage."
Re: the 13.5 meter resolution on the ESA cydonia pics.
I recently got "sim city 3000"
(to play on mrs. gort's old computer while she is online)
I noticed that the grid squares on the city maps are 13 meters by 13 meters, and that the elevations of the hills and water depths are given in multiples of 13 meters.
so, if you took a picture of a sim city 3000 city and reduced it to each square being one pixel, you wouldn't really see much. Comprende?
Gort
I not see any erosion taking place at all! I see precision art guilding covering everything!
This example of the Feline Earring.. I call it... shows exquisite detailing.
This image is going to take time to bring out. Where is the dirt & rocks????
Look at all the geometry & the fine details criss crossing, having structure. & purpose for surface tattoo designing.
http://www.martianrevelation.com/FelineEaringMRO.png
I wonder how much "cleanup" was done on the new MRO image of the Face? The blurb states that the rez on that pic 29cm/pixel. Hmmm
Wayne
Just a couple of things that stood out in the reading of End Of Days by Sitchen most recently.
This speaks a little to the constant switching in the lore between references to "Niburu" as 'star' and 'planet'.
As well, Mars Revealer had posted a picture of an unusual nebulous looking 'something', I believe he found embedded in the UFO Diaries. Please correct me if I am wrong on that.
My recent speculation is that it may be a visible image of approaching "Niburu" ( or perhaps what might be left of it, being that it looks kind of 'remnant nova like'). The Omen component being that when passing through the inner solar system specially the interaction near Jupiter, things get a little electrified and kind of turbulent. (Maybe a 'humpty dumpty' scenario. ;)
IfItIsWhatItAppearsToBe
from End Of Days
pg 236.
..."and stood in the radience of the Great Planet"
...strongly indicates the extradordinary solar eclipse was somehow caused by the return of Niburu, the "great radiating planet"
Now what gives me a thought to ponder is Sword had said previously that 'they' were gone and essentially that Niburu itself (or one of its moons broke up). The Gold premise in the story if I recall was about using it to repair or bolster their failing atmosphere.
further in the book: contrary to the glorious utopian like expectations of the astronomer priests at THIS Returning:
And when the planet's Return did occur, neither ANU nor any of the expected gods showed up. Indeed the opposite happened: the gods, the Anunnaki gods, took off and left Earth.
iontruo2--> This was the telling of the Return of 556 B.C.E.
So, two kinds of notions here.
The luminance of Niburu as 'star like' as well as being essentially a planet moving fast yet having a huge orbit essentially 'opposite' that of the rest of our solar system. Brightening greatly as it approaches in its fall downward to the Sun.
Perhaps Humpty Dumpty had THAT fall, and broke apart at Jupiter or perihelion (ala Schumaker Levy comet like)??
= Debris Field-gaseous nova like remnant?
Just a few 'out there' contemplations. Any other thoughts?
blasted
you said...
reposting Burisch Interview:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-401824297513952563&q=out+from+under
Friday, April 06, 2007 2:14:00 PM
iontruo2 NOW THAT, was an interesting interview!!!! Not done yet but that one gave me good chills of WTF?!
MARS REVEALER - in that interview Blasted posted to us here, Burisch mentions the means at Majestic, to view through time, or in the interview specifically looking into the future.
He said it was called LG meaning Looking Glass and it is a 'machine'.
Looking Glass reminds me of the machines that have been hidden in Tibet and discussed at length by Lobsang Rampa.
MR,
Your 'slop' drawing is meaningless without the pre-traced version side by side.
Same with that 'earring' picture, too. WTF are we actually looking at?
And whilke were at it, what's the provenance of that "niburi' pic that Ion linked to above?
How come when I look at that I think, "Don't look like no telescope pic to me"?????
Good question SK.
I never claimed it was a telescope pic. ;-)
I claim it is & was a pic from article part 4. The cover sheet to this facts transmission. Ha ha ha. In which this image is used as a representation of EARTH,.. EARTHS EFFORTS, & asking us all what does THAT HAVE TO DO WITH EARTH?
I am being attributed to as EARTHS EFFORTS.
There is a FACE in the center of that EARTH representation.
If you go back & read article part 4 again,... You will see how it originally looked as provided on that video. Then I enhanced it some. Which I show also on that page.
I only know the relevance to that image to me,.. to this message overall, & that it represents also a planetary body. Either literally the Earth, in the future?? or In the likness of the constructed message structure, that is missing an element. That represents this thing,... That is sent to the 4th world... between space & time. Until it comes into combination OF TIME with the element missing to make a living orginism out of combined elements.... ME!
Article part 4 NOT shows or says all that. But where & when it is referenced, was deliberately speciffically placed there at that moement to start leading us all into the story of things that at that point,.. remained yet as unexplained.
EARTHS EFFORTS is also connected to one of the meaning & identities of THE VIKING SPACE PROBE. I also believe is ME! As well as a certain VIKING SPACE PROBE ,...CALLED MARS ORBITER... who was a NASA individual here...in this video. That NOT WISHED TO BE PHOTOGRAPHED! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!! A NASA SPACE... SPY!!!
Now in what I uncovered,.. which I NOT put up yet.... is for article part 5c,... shows & tells how ME.. as the VIKING SPACE PROBE... in this sense & meaning path,.. says the Mystery 1st began to unfold for ME... in 1976!!! When I was going about it's successful mapping mission,.. OF PUR NEIGHBOR PLANET!!!
This is clear & attributed & connected to EXPERIENCES of my past that now makes sense. GENETIC MAPPING OF ME.. THE VIKING SPACE PROBE... AS A CHILD! This gets laid out in it's definitions of keywords. This also shows & holds the dualistic meaning. Positive for one,.. NEGATIVE FOR THE OTHER. I am one,. The NASA SPACE SPY is the other. As well as having input from the designer also attributed by coincidences giving me instructions,... Detailing concepts to this mapping mission & attributing this message structure unto itself in connection as well.
This is alot of work. Much more information coming through now. But dammmmmmm!
They also speak of NOT only me was mapped... but...MY MOTHER as well!
This connets also to my past & My moms from certain things she has said to me happened to her,.. even years before I was born. Alot is starting to make sense from all that stuffs in my past!
This all cannot be & is not a coincidence. yet how does it exist??? It is impossible for this to be real!!! Right????
Yet time & again.... & again... & again. It reiterates itself & yields new information to continue & connect to what has come before.
They mention it is a BLOODLINE... of some type that created interest & ability to undertake what they set up for me to take.
I know this sounds insane!!! It just cannot be possible!! To far fethched. yet... there it is for me to see & applicate understanding clearly enough I am at full attention to it & recognize the connection attributes clearly.
many of them anyway.
I will be posting this up in a few days... I hope. Just a heads up.
:-)
I will try & post comparative images later SK. I figured if anyone KNOWS the Face at Cy will know where it is at. ;-)
I did. ;-)
MR
MR.
Sunking O.K. O.K. so I was off on my own little tangent there... (at least with the image connecting)
As penance for my accidental brain fart dis-information, I recommend being locked in the cabernet and sedated with merlot. :L
ion,
ZS mentions the return of the cross symbol in 750 BC, as the early prophets started prophesying about the End of Times. I thought it particularly interesting that Sin in Harran was coaxed to return to his temple even after the return if Nibiru. Then, he left again, as did all the others in 560BC. I think I have those facts straight, correct me if I don't.
It is always re-iterated in ZS's books that the gods said, "Let us make man in our image". If they made us just like them, then didn't we learn all our "bad" behavior from them too? We fought their wars for them on their behalf and their request with their support. I believe they were good teachers as we have been perfecting war ever since.
Wayne
IonTruo. I am NOT saying your theory is NOT right also! ;-)
Look what comes next after WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH EARTH?
Multiple meanings attributed.
Yours is consistent to that scneario opened up with I say. :-)
MR
higha ((crew))
Darkwood!
Outstanding. Good to see ya back, man.
always valued/enjoy your posts, so thanks. it means alot to see ya here.
and that really go for ALL.. As Eric said, it is the 'US' that I come here for anyway.
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Sorry to be takin' such long 'away' breaks.. but.. ya gotta do what ya gotta do.. readin' as I can.
Lots posted I'd like to respond eventually.. but I had to put this one up. I've been meaning
to for several days now, as I feel it pertinent.
The Dan Burisch story is so much deeper than what we've touched on here. Wish I could post
my collection of all his transcripts, pics, book etc.. and even at that, his info is such a ridiculously
tiny part of a MUCH bigger, local, operation(s).. which is itself, a ridiculously tiny part of.. etc.. etc..
MR needs to get 'intimate' with this work. It is significant to his journey.
Perhaps, 'Looking Glass' was/is the method used to create his vid from the future, in 1993.
The mars we see today is result of a 'future' event, hence his bizarre but quite relatable
story/event line. It is so strange to see it all connect up. (ya, laugh. it's ok. I do too. :)
Y'all heard of 'Henry Deacon' yet ??
'nuther super deep throater.. fwiw. truth or fiction/faction, CT's/PX/Burisch/Mars etc..
vewy intewesting.. Project Camelot folks gettin' quite a coolection of um.. stuff.
peace on ya!
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Dark Star Author Andy Lloyd - We Live in a Binary Star System, Says US Government Whistleblower
According to an ex-Livermore physicist with verifiable credentials, we live in a binary star system, and Sol's companion is a brown dwarf in an elliptical orbit. Simply known as 'Henry,' the informant's full identity is known to Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot, and they have vetted him. What gives further credibility to this disclosure is the fact that 'Henry' mentioned it in passing, preferring to focus more on man-made threats of an impending global conflagration involving China and the Middle East.
For Planet X / 2012 researchers like Andy Lloyd, 'Henry's' disclosure is earthshaking, to say the least, because he says that a distorted heliosphere and increased solar activity are proof that Sol's companion is approaching perihelion. According to 'Henry,' NOAA has already begun to factor the influence of this second sun into its forecast models. The author of The Dark Star and publisher of the Dark Star web site, Andy discusses this and other breaking developments in Planet X / 2012 research with Marshall.
Interview with Andy Lloyd re:'Henry Deacon'
http://64.111.123.243/wvx/cttc-0407-69.wvx
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Government Whistleblower "Henry Deacon" - NOAA Is Tracking Planet X
In our last show with Dark Star Author Andy Lloyd, we learned of a recent Planet X disclosure by a former government scientist turned whistleblower and who now identifies himself as "Henry Deacon." An ex-Livermore physicist with verifiable credentials, his story was first broken by Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan of Project Camelot.
A relative newcomer to paranormal web sites that some feel could very well become the next Whistleblowers "R" Us of the Internet, thanks to the gravitas of it's founders. Bill is a UK-based mathematician, physicist and teacher. Kerry is an MBA specializing in the film industry and who started Project Camelot with Bill in the role as her independent documentary producer.
In this groundbreaking interview, you'll be amazed to learn that a secretive, high-level department within the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is not only aware of the fact that we live in a binary star system. They know where the twin is, and how it is perturbing our Sun because, according to "Henry Deacon," they're already factoring these perturbations into their forecasts. Worse, yet is what Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan have learned about what we're facing in the near future.
Project Camelot audio discussion with Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy re:'Henry Deacon'
http://64.111.123.243/wvx/cttc-0407-70.wvx
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An interview/transcript with 'Henry Deacon' - parts 1and 2
http://www.projectcamelot.net/livermore_physicist.html
http://www.projectcamelot.net/livermore_physicist_2.html
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This interview was transcribed from video as the interviewee expressed a wish to remain anonymous ('Henry Deacon' is a pseudonym, prompted by his similarity to the likeable and creative polymath on the Eureka TV series). Certain details have been deleted and/or amended in order to ensure that his identity remains concealed, and the transcript has been "cleaned" of most expressed natural hesitations and the like. Meanwhile, it is most important to note that none of the factual information disclosed has been altered or amended in any way.
Henry's name and employment details are known and verified and we were able to meet with him personally more than once. He was understandably a little nervous but definitely wanted to talk with us. In conversation, he sometimes responded with silence and meaningful glances or enigmatic smiles rather than words. He was entirely disarming, in a very quiet way, and was not always certain about what he should or shouldn't say. At times, however, he took great pleasure in revealing the truth about some key matter in a way that could not be traced back to him. One or two supplementary details were provided by e-mail after the interview.
The most important piece of additional information comes at the very end of the transcript, where Henry confirms Dan Burisch's testimony.
Nowak and Imus are rowing in the same boat. Imus' interview with Tim Russert may have been the sod turning that moved the ho story along. It's reported that Imus told Tim that he was thinking about unravelling the 911 story on air.
Nowak has been sequestered away from public view for reasons only NASA could tell us. The recent information that a CD of bondage was found in her car is interesting by the fact that this is evidence in a court case that would never have been revealed in any other case as "it's before the courts". We only get information like that when TPTB need to heap abuse on a perspective whistleblower. Where is Hubble when you need it?
Bush recently thanked the passengers or Flight 93 for taking on the hijackers and crashing into Shanksville before they got to Washington. How did Bush know the plane was being hijacked to Washington?
Blasted..Henry is new to me and much appreciated. Now if we can just get Fool to put his jaundiced eye on the subject, we could expand the subject. For some reason, I work better when the debate is raised to a higher level. Thanks Blasted. You might like to note the fact that my post above was written without reading your post. I think Nowak had something to do with the Jesuit control of all the picx from Hubble that are no longer being made public.
Looks like the doldrums have hit here again.
I would like to say that my prayers go out to evryone at VT.
As a current student all i can say is: There for the grace of God go I.
I have had the thought cross my mind more than once about someone getting a little over emotional about a grade and coming into wipe out a classroom. God bless them that have seen this horrble carnage.
Massive bombing at Eglin tonight-making me sad and uneasy at the same time.
Hope all is well with everyone here.
Note that 33 people, including the gunman, died at VT today.
On the brighter side, I just found out I will be a grandfather in December!
ssl4000g,
Hi. Your so right. In this rather acurately cyclical time looping domain, 'someone' had to do 'it' the first time.
Interesting too how Sitchen in the book always used a little "g" for the various gods.
They were ancient and perhaps thoroughly more 'advanced' because of it, but they were obviously NOT enlightened if they were still involved in low level pettiness and sibling rivalries and political gamesmanship that seems to permeate the whole tale of the past.
...and as you said we have been perfecting it ever since. While this is definately a sacraficing world, I wonder sometimes why someone thinks we should make our own death and sufffering in some canabalistic self slaying practice called War?
We think we are controlling the dying process...by self wounding our species to get ahead. Seems a bit fxxx'd up.
Mars Revealer -->gotcha. staying tuned.
Blasted: Good stuff dude, tks.
Eric and you are tuning it in, good food for thought. Burisch was powerful stuff, felt like serious disclosure.
eric: re looking glass. Have to look into that Tibetan suggestion you made. tks
I'm off to a little holiday, back next week friends.
Will try to tune in.
Grandpa Sunking! Congrats.
{{scarletM}}
Absolutely ion, with you on that. It seems to me also, they are not much more enlightened either. You might expect People Magazine to follow the exploits and lovers of Inanna.
re;Courney Brown...I was reading the other night, and found a reference to his trainer. The page was on bibliotecapleyades.org I think, stupid me forgot to save the link. :( Anyway, CB's trainer was.......Ed Dames. Go figure.
Congrats to the Sunking......"Hey Granpa! What's for supper?!" ;)
Wayne
Ion ..a good synopsis of the works of T. Lopsang Rampa can be read here. The books are very readable edible.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/LobsangRampa2.html
"Black-eyed peas, collard greens, sliced tomaters, cornbread and Grandma'a fried chicken...with peach cobbler fer dessert!"
LOL! Watchers of the old "Hee Haw" show will remember that bit.
Thanks 4 da 'grats'!
A message from the captain of the Enterprise Mission.... regarding the new MRO Face release....
"And, don't forget the first version of this image that Gary tried (unsuccessfully ... because HiRISE switched it before he completed the link) to download Wednesday night--
195 Megabytes!
Just "coincidence," of course.
So, "someone" inside the HiRISE operation -- as with the Odyssey IR image sent to Keith Laney from "Bamf" many years ago -- seems to be "playing games" here too.
Did ANYONE successfully download that original, 195 MB image?! If so, we need to FIND them ... NOW."
MR
re: Homos sapiens learning all our bad habits from the Annunanki/'gods'.....
I wonder what our state was BEFORE the 'gods' intervened. Were we physically like we are today, more like the stereotypical caveman, or closer to the gorilla/chimp ancestor?
Did we have at least the innate intelligence of those chimps, or were we a little smarter?
Were we fat, dumb and happy...or just dumb?
Would we have eventually evolved into what we are today, become extinct, or actuallyturned out to be a better species (i.e.minus the Dick Cheney's)?
Aaaaah...what might have been.......
Can you put the message from RCH in more context and expound on that message. Like, how did this 'message' come about?
Congrats gramps!
(((((Ion))))
Its crunch time in math so I won't be around too much for the next 2 weeks. i have managed to maintain an 85 average in there. its been a whole lot of work but i am really proud of myself for this accomplishment.
here is the text of an email I sent to RCH.
"Captain" Richard Hoagland,
Congratulations on finally getting the picture that shows the girders (according to your appearance on Coast to Coast AM last Thursday night).
What a nice "coincidence" that your announcement to the C2C world audience was on April 12, which is celebrated in the former Soviet Union as "Cosmonaut Day," commemorating Yuri A. Gagarin's first space flight.
I haven't looked at the full size pic yet, but looking at the browser-sized picture, there appear to be some interesting objects on the lit side of the face especially near the eye, the dark area below the eye on the cheek, and on the nose. Actually, to me there appear to be interesting things all over the lit part of the face. These objects appear to me to be more pronounced when viewed with the picture upside down from the way it was presented, and not viewed straight down, but at an angle.
I think I see scupltures, both free standing and in relief. What I see has a markedly Salvador Dali-esque surrealist/optical illusion quality where one thing seems to morph into something else.
This definitely needs to be analized by persons who are not geologists (rock specialists), but instead by archaeaologists, artists, architects, and experts in symbolism.
BTW, the "crater" at the bottom-left of the picture has some geometric features of a baseball stadium. I first noticed this in the ESA color picture. I look forward to seeing the close-up view.
Again, Congatulations.
Gort (from the old Captain's blog, and still blogging on fshod.blogspot.com)
Ah! But did you, Gort, receive a reply? Hope you do and that's for the 'plug' to RCH, too.
Scarlet, success in math is like the old joke about "Hey buddie, can you tell me how to get to Broadway?" "Sure...Practice, Practice, Practice!!!"
Good Luck!
Well SK. The message came about by him placing it in his conference center. It came about me pointing the way, telling him & someone else posting that an attack against him was in play by MRO image leader to the mission.
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/HiBlog/
I noted that THE GALACTIC GHOUL was stepping up in a notch showing that THE ATTACKS ARE COMING. They are tryin' him hard through this official somewhat HIT PIECE done as the ONLY HIT PIECE done to the Face of Mars release. A 1st. yet the only hit given,.. is one to RCH's Nuts! I see deliberate connection to the OMENS FROM THE PAST still in control,.. & pointing out to him, in this type & way is an OMEN in of itself!!
Notice the guys name. Also a coincidence??? he is a real person,.. Yet fits attributingly in place to be used for a purpose. A purpose which these Omens have RCH in mind, to call him out to the street. The timing of all this converging together, in my designed message & playing my part, to be used against him, to call him into the street, & this one,... fits together. A wake up card to RCH, letting him know his time is almost up!
This is my opinion. He also sees it as I do... that this is being ammo set up to be used against him by the Galactic Ghoul.
Now IonTruo2... That Dan burrish.. or whateva his name is. What a whirly bird ay? Ha ha ha ha. yet at the same time,... he has said some things I am PERPLEXED & CAPTURED MY DIRECT ATTENTION to certain... Ummm.. aspects I feel I can relate to.
I need to talk to this guy myself... That woman fucked up the parts I was most interested in actually hearing this guy speak! At least she did the interview.. but damm... what a pain in my ass she was. I was annoyed at her big time!! Thanks for that Link. I never knew who he was before.
He did mention an alien beling involved. As well as a team of secret intelligent beings alongside him. This brings back... MEMORIES. To certain dreamsperiences I have had....Ummm..encounters with. As well as a craft being involved in one of them, where I was one of about 20-40 others on board with me. Women & children mostly. Where I gotten to experience & see & feel,... a ride away from the Earth. As well as able to watch our leaving Earth altogether. THROUGH THE FLOOR THAT BECAME INVISIBLE!!! What a sight & ride that was. Only ONE typical alien there was. & he was working on something.... thatI was brought into one of it's rooms to see him or IT working on for a few seconds.
I aint getting into all this now. But a few things he said clamped my attention big time to take better notice of this guy in what he has to say. I NEED TO TALK WITH HIM MYSELF!!
Blasted... you said...
"MR needs to get 'intimate' with this work. It is significant to his journey."
Hmmmm. That maybe now I have listened to that video. I feel he has more I need to know. Which is why I need to speak with him.
It is signifigant to My journey??? Now YOU! How is it you,.. these Omens... & a few others sense & see this as a Journey for me??? A JOURNEY OF WHAT???? BEING USED AS SOMEONE TO PUNISH,... &/OR REPLACE A CAPTAIN??? Something I recently learned in the code that says it is something of which will allow me to posess a driver licesne??? To what???? What frakkin Journey??
How is it OTHERS are seeing or saying this,.. yet the only journey I feel like I am on is one of me being the MONKEY/LION In the middle to be used, & intermixed with voo doo & PROFOUND UNDERTANDINGS of a COLOSSAL POWER!
I know one thing... I am learning more. This dude sword still gets my attentions when I read his stuff... as slowly as that progresses. It all is kinda frightening. yet exciting. CAN ALL THIS BE REAL??? To me it is & has to be... or I am really a loony tunes.
All I know is that MY BLOOD... MY BLOODLINE,.. & My MOTHER,.. was sused to FIT ME INSIDE THIS THING! Designed around that basis. As I suspected,... this is what they suggest.
Now what journey is it that details & entails so much & more,.. to do a journey of which I not fully see or know... yet?!
I want to know what this is. WHY THIS IS... HOW THIS IS able to be real. because my whole life... is literally connected & confirmed to me in the message they tell & I am to reveal. Only I can connect certain aspects that convinces me 100% of it's reality & yet... I still find it hard to imagine.
Do YOU know of what Journey I am to do?? What all is expected of me?? Will it all pan out or will I be on the shit end of the stick with this also?? Therefore all a waste of my time if so! I need answers. This dude sword aint yappin now.. after all that time.. calling out to ME!!! Now when I call his name... NO REPLY!!!
Some of the things I see him saying is even helping me believe it or not!!
I aint gonna get into all detals about it,.. But the ones I need answers from,.. are NOT providing them. Captain Hoagland... is one of them!!! I am trying to really remain cool with him. He is a key part to my part to be fulfilled yet! But I see & feel damage, pain, & possible suffering unto him. I NOT want to be the one to cause this unto him. By default even!!
I am told in this code that he cannot do this alone. That his place is NOT the place I am to be in, that it is NOT his place to be in it, but to TEACH ME & show me some things. His action in this I am described is one that his place is NOT of his own doing, but apart of a sentence imposed on him to serve appropriately.
They say he NOT likes to play 2nd fiddle to anyone. This must mean me! he has betrayed that punishment in their eyes & is NOT PERFROMING things he must do. I am included in that mix someplace of what he has to do. Even SWORD spelled that right out clearly!!
In the notes I have taken so far from him, & what I am seeing & learning in this coe structure now coming in showing more information attributed & connected,.. even the same wording is consistent!! Talk about frrreeeeeky shit!!!!
I want what is to come to me. because I waited my entire life for it. I alone have bragging rights, as it is my life to brag about & my position placed inside this THING! To which I am seeing an entire life ahead of me. yet if this is so,.. why the F%#K am I going through doom & gloom as much as I am now??
This is where my life begins I am hinted at. sure... after what??? Losing everything??? Killing myslef?? Having my family destroyed?? What????
It aint the things said that makes this hard to believe. I beleive with 100% accuracy in things already happened, & stated that I can relate to that captures my trust in attention to pay heed! It is the future shot I have a hard time with because it suggests many things,.. yet I aint seeing NOTHING to ensure I am able to continue this work. Though they say they can & will. yet,... I need the motts to feel better there & secure in my position they PLACED ME INSIDE OF!
This all stems to THE MYSTERY OF THE VIKING SPACE PROGRAM 1ST BEGAN,.. IN 1976,.. OF OUR SUCCESSFUL MAPPING MISSION OF THE VIKING SPACE PROBE,... ME,...OF OUR NEIGHBOR PLANET!!!
LET HIM WHO HATH UNDERSTANDING!!! That is all I will say now.
The OTHER Viking Space Probe... HOAGLAND,... is attributed & spelled out his position & why he is in it! Again,.. acccording to them that designed this message!
many parts are true to me. But How can I discern what is true for RCH?? I need more meat for his inclusion to be taken serious by me. lbeit they present me a good case to put forth to know & understand. But it all is designed. He needs to speak with me. I need to speak with SWORD!! I NEED ANSWERS!!!!
I need help!! Help I am NOT getting or being set up in place to be. The captain should be doing this according to this story.
The stuff I am speaking of will be seen & learned from article part 5c & 2 attached attributes of definition to help spell out more of the mystery between the 2 Viking Space Probes... me & RCH!
As lengthy that all is, it must be followed to be understood,.. let alone considered. As I am the only one who sees the real connection between these points. To point out at least. :-)
That is why I feel strongly that this latest hit piece on him was a flag being raised before a march of which is coming to take action I feel against him.
They suggest a few omens as to what they will do to him... if he fails to do his part. It has to do with a heart! I will lave that alone now. & That makes me fear for him!! I will add that much!!
So that being said,.. How important is MY JOURNEY that all this freeeeky shit is real & involved??? This is stuff for movies. Know what I mean?? NOT real life. As what we knew.. as real life anyway. That may be my biggest hurdle to understand & grip with.
What do I need to be intimate with exactly??? Will it yield me information & the help I need???
I am only trying to ponder...
Sorry the rant. The length etc...
MR
MR,
I think that was what he was inplying...that the info would help you.
Thanks for the context about the RCH and 'Dick Lies" story.
Have any of you seen this new, much vaunted mini-series on Discovery called Planet Earth?
It's being plugged as the first of it's kind using HD photography and took over 4 years to film, in lucious locales...and indeed, I've watched it and the photography IS remarkable, expecially when they go in to slow-mo....stunning!
And the timing of this show, with all the current clamor over global-warming, seemed Spot On!....at first blush. BUT..............
Always follow the money trail!
As you watch this wondorous show, pay attention to the commercials. They all have the new, corporate ideals of Green practices and environmentally-friendly research, etc, etc. Then take stock of the corporations.....BP, GE, etc, etc. In other words...Big Energy and Military/Industrial Complex companies!!!
Now alerted, I realized that none of the locales they film in show any pollution whatsoever! It's all beautiful, pristene nature.
Realize that the sole aim of these companies is NEVER to have to pay, partially or in full, for the resources they've plundered or the pollution they've caused.
What bam-boozelment!!! WHAT BULLSHIT!!!!!
Oh...and PE is financed by...yep!...Bank of America! Ask Gerg Palast...BoA seems to pop up everywhere...just ask Hugo Chavez! lol!
The is no such thing as weather manipulation! Obviously if the Chinese are doing it, it couldn't POSSIBLY be happening here. ;)
Chinese make first artificial snowfall
By Richard Spencer in Hong Kong
Last Updated: 2:25am BST 19/04/2007
China claimed yesterday to have caused a snowfall for the first time as part of its increasingly ambitious attempts to control the weather.
Officials in the meteorological bureau in Tibet said they had used "rain-seeding" techniques to trigger a snowfall over the city of Nagqu last week.
"This proves it's possible for humans to change the weather on the world's highest plateau," said Yu Zhongshui. The bureau said it had produced just under half an inch of snow at a height of 15,000ft.
Mr Yu said the experiment was conducted in the hope it would lead to alleviating drought on the northern Tibetan plateau, whose grasslands are turning brown as global warming melts and drains its permafrost.
The government also hopes that the project will benefit the great river systems of China. The Yellow, Yangtse, Salween, Mekong and Brahmaputra rivers all rise in Tibet, and the effects of damming and over-extraction for agriculture are beginning to threaten water supplies to major cities.
China is the world's largest practitioner of rain-seeding, a controversial procedure that involves releasing silver iodide as a catalyst into clouds either by aircraft or by firing cannon shells into them. It employs 37,000 people on the programme, which it uses to trigger rainfall principally to maximise water supply in the drought-prone north of the country, although in Beijing it is often said to be part of attempts to ensure a blue sky for major events.
Authorities have already promised to use rain-seeding before the Olympics to clear the often gloomy August skies for the opening ceremony.
...catching up, been a busy two weeks moving tings...
Ion, for ya wifey an self, ya da spare rooms free for when ya want to drop by.
Global warming eh Eric, getting hotter fi true. 33 people cop it as a 300 meter rock sails by earth on the 17th... hmmm
Sooo come chill out in the Caribbean sea, mi self will teach ya how to enjoy it:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o9/jasgrave333/1335SCUBAv2.jpg...
One-love
Blasted.. Here's a link that developed from a long string which originated with one of your links. Beeeee...zarrre...
www.gravity.org.
Some things are just meant to be. This is one of them.
LMAO! Cannabis Sacrement Minister, indeed!!! I had that job once, but not the title, and the Escambia County Sherrif ended that occupation!
Glad to see you're doing the scuba thing, Jas.
What's this about the 300 meter rock sailing by? Another NEO object?
Aaaaah....right, Jas. Asteroid 2007 GU1 pass within 2.1 LDs (Lunar Distances) on the 16th, the day the shootings occurred.
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db?name=2007%20GU1
Got to spaceweather.com and scroll down for the Near Earth Asteroids section.
Oops...you were talking about 2007 HA, Jas. 2007 GU1 was only 45m in size, HA being the 300m but at 6.5 LDs.
...ya SK, the 300 meter object that was 13 Lunar distances away.
Remembering the Tsunami in the Solomon islands the same day as a huge NEO was at it's zenith.
But look at this, the 16th where the shootings, NEO's on the 15th 16th and 17th...
...Then Cho(sen?) Seung-Hui, 23 years old, using 007's gun to off himself and 32 others.
Not least a Glock '9' mm, with 3 rounds in each victim at least...
...and 3 NEO's according to spicy-weather.com...
Ya mi is a PADI Specialy instructor SunKing (Cannabis Sacrament minister ;).
Reverend of the 7 leaved truth and salty sea dogs...
Well 14th, 16th and 17th, still close enough;
ASTEROID DATE (UT) MISS DISTANCE MAG. SIZE
2007 DS84 Apr. 14 16 LD 15 325m
2007 GU1 Apr. 16 2.1 LD 16 45 m
2007 HA Apr. 17 6.5 LD 13 300 m
Swing low "sweet" NEO...
LMAO at da 'swing low', mi brudder.
13 was the Magnitude(brightness) of 2007 HA...6.5 LDs fro Earth.
Forgot about the Solomon Island's NEO.
...hi hi hi, ya
The 2KM sized Ore chunk on the 31st of March;
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2006 VV2 Mar. 31 8.8 LD 9 2 km
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...just a few days after the earths crust creaked...
...oh and remember all that time back we where chatting about 369 and it's relevance?
Well of course, at sea, there are the four watches, 3AM, 6AM, 9AM, 12PM... well technically 8, but crew members take turns...
The hours of watch of course are also mentioned in the bible... not least the perils of global warming and celestial stone chariots, classed with fancy sounding scientific three letter acronyms...
Aye, true, boyo....but then would not the scientists say that the mass of the NEO would not be suffiecient to have an impact thus twould be able to creak said crusties, eh?
I dunno, me thinks that despite what science seems to tell us, that there must be some connection.
There's no scientific explanation fer ghosts, but there be ghosts about, mi heartie!
Here's a couple of interesting BBC articles.
Pipe Organ Plays above the Sun:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6574059.stm/6574059.stm
The Wave That Destroyed Atlantis?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6568053.stm
Swiss cheese pic, Hmmmmm.....
http://www.weather.unisys.com/radar/rad_us.html
Wayne
Top-Secret Plane which crashed in 1947 allegedly chasing a UFO FOUND!
http://www.king5.com/localnews/stories/NW_042007WABbombercrashufoTP.2a4b9f48.html
...dat cool, found a UFO chasing crashed plane, but lose two NASA employees...
Building 44 no less, just 11 away from...
Gunman knew engineer he killed at NASA, police say.
So it wasn't an "Unidentified Flying Object" it was a slug from another 9mm...
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Ready said the gun used was a short-barrel handgun, possibly a .38 or .357.
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See! There's a '3' in it...
...has anyone carried out a study into how gun-fire and it's associated heat, might be contributing to global warming?
Just staying on subject...
I know from the examples I've studied thus far, that it's pretty deadly...
Here's something related to ammo and global warming!
"Noble Resolve 7 4 days of Simulated Nuclear Terrorist Scenarios"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ABR20070420&articleId=5444
Not only is this alarming, if find it 'alarming' the website that's posting it. Ah, them Globalistas!
"Happiness is a warm gun"
the Beatles
:) Gort
Wayne..interesting swiss cheese pattern that you posted. I spent the entire day outside in the backyard and noted that the ct'ers that I saw (which were few) had zero trails nadda nothing but the sky filled up with crud nonetheless. I did notice the wishbone (haarpsacord) pattern in extremely large and regular varves but that was only in the thin coverage. When it's like soup there is no pattern which is how the day ended.
My theory is that a certain pulse is meant to "depress" people and that is reinforced by the mass media with headshots of Cho being repeated on most channels at a frequency of 33.3 times per hour.
Thanks eric, there is another today and last nite too. Here:
http://www.weather.unisys.com/index.html
They were out en force again in the sky. My friend finally got what I was saying bout the sky. :)
Wayne
hi hi hi Gort...
Real happiness is a freshly lit spliff... ya done know >:D
Vanishing honeybees mystify scientists
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/04/22/vanishing.bees.reut/index.html
No reply from RCH yet, although I didn't really expect one. I hope he is working on either the paper on the hex on Saturn, or the paper on the MRO high-res pic of theFace.
And not wasting time on answering emails from olde crewe.
I guess I could mention Iapetus Moon with a view part 7, but I quit holding my breath for that one last year.
Gort -->Staying tuned
The blossoms are out and still not a bee to see. This mite be a problem. Hives have been collapsing worldwide. I wonder if they've bee'n raptured?
The carpenter bees and yellow jackets as well as some wasps are visible around here.
Had a thought yesterday, that i guess is a sign of the times. When I look up and see CT's, at least I know the TPTB is not gonna set off another Pearl Harbor.
Wayne
Dunno, Wayne.....read that Noble Resolve 7 link up above. You know how 'uncanny' it is how terror attacks seem to occur in the middle of a terror drill!
The bee issue is something to cause concern. Here's an interesting article, bummed from Goro.
Are Mobile Phones wiping out our bees?
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece
"Jesus said...
Real happiness is a freshly lit spliff... ya done know >:D"
REAL happiness is having to put said spliff down after just one toke! lol!
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REAL happiness is having to put said spliff down after just one toke! lol!
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LMAO... ja!
hi hi hi... we got some good hash out here too :D
PS fight global warming, come get chilled in da Caribbean: http://scuba-stkitts.blogspot.com
One-love
King da Cannabis
...or King of da Cannabis...
hi hi hi
Hey ericswan!
Quick question. (I know this might seem a little off-topic, but there's certainly a connection in there somwhere.) So, what do you make of Joe Farrell’s Reich of the Black Sun: Nazi secret Weapons & the Cold War Allied Legend?
The reason I ask is that his premise—that those Nazi bastards actually succeeded in either resurrecting the kind of mysterious ancient science alluded to in the Rig Veda or just replicated it based on that weird strain of (mostly) German science I’m always on about (Lost Science stuff, you know, including Keely & Tesla, of course, but also such "discredited" luminaries as Anton Mesmer, etc) and that Paperclip and the whole Cold War were just smoke screens for what I.G. Farben and its closest friends had planned for the 3rd milleneum—is starting to make sense, despite how fookin’ crazy it sounds. I’m not talking about Nazi flying saucers here, either, in case you’re wondering. (Rudy Rucker’s Hollow Earth is far more entertaining than all that Neuschwabenland stuff, as far as I’m concerned.)
I’ve been in contact with some scientist-types recently who say there are "all kinds of signs" that this other science is as well-developed as it is hidden; stuff like the supposedly unexplained connections between crystallization, magnetics, gravity, aether theory and energy. The easiest way to figure it all out, of course, would be for the sort of disclosure that you guys have on your masthead to actually occur. Between Kammler’s still very classified file and I.G. Farben’s “looted” (but never revealed) wartime patents we’d have a pretty good picture of what they were up to. I wonder what the official rationale for keeping these “historical” documents classified is, anyway? I doubt the old Paperclip embarrassment is motivating anyone anymore, so what does that leave us with?
On a related note, that ganja be makin' the news agin' mon. I was just talking to a new lady-friend about the sad case of our fearless attorney general losing his memory (Meth Made Him Do It: Attorney General Gonzales’s drug problem), where I added the following two cents in the hope that she might pass on the info to help our brother-in-need out a little:
Ah, but memory is rather queer process, is it not? Not at all linear, you know; it's much more an associative phenomenon with tags, markers and threads which are activated by triggers (scent, synchrony, images) and loosely directed by the brain's expectations of what ought to be. If pink elephants, white knights talking backward and oh, I don't know...maybe government involvement in the drug trade (all hypothetical examples, of course) are not supposed to show up on a given day's mental intinerary, then why in heaven's name would we expect a loyal & dedicated law enforcement official to recall events which are clearly beyond the pale?
Luckily, numerous new studies show a rather promising solution to the poor AG's plight. It turns out that another drug might just alleviate Alberto's selective memory syndrome. Now, granted, this new wonder drug is just plain old marijuana, and we all know how pernicious and dangerous this killer weed is, but the evidence is clear enough. Mice grow new brain cells when exposed to this noxious public enemy. You might say, "Wait a minute, Mr. Gonzales is no mouse!" but he does bear at least some resemblance to the common rat, does he not? After all, memory and worldview are highly associative--if the shoe fits, should he not smoke it, for the greater good?
It also seems that this beastly wildflower stops lung cancer and alleviates stress, depression and...oh, wait. The pharmaceutical industry makes a little money from those conditions, doesn't it? I can see that this is going to complicate our public-spirited system of political campaign donations, not to mention how we regulate the prison industry™ (a fully owned subsidiary of the War On Drugs™, in partnership with the War On Terror™ and the Council for Wars On Us™).
Hmmm...
Oh well, sometimes a great notion...
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But getting back to the Nazi business (you do know they were growing themselves some hemp, big time, back in '42-'45, right?), it does seem that whatever they tucked away back then was a good deal more powerful than what we've been led to believe. It's starting to remind me now of the idea behind that Hollywood and the UFOs meme (btw, that link from Corpus Mmothra is in close proximity to another one you'll like--his tribute to R. Steiner, as well as a bunch of other stuff cool stuff)--the idea that we're being conditioned for some eventual disclosure of things we always suspected. What Farrell does in Reich of the Black Sun: is to suggest what that tool Spielberg was really up to with that scene where the Ark of the Covenant is being wheeled into that warehouse at the end of the first Indiana Jones movie.
I gather that Spielberg has girdled up old Harrison Ford to make yet another one that's due out soon. Maybe in this one we'll get some clues as to the alien origin of the righteous nuggets. You won't find any left-handed DNA stuff at Dr. Dave's new digs, but you might want to check it out anyway: NewHeadNews.
Iridescent Cuttlefish, henceforth to be known as IC, ... WELCOME!
Heckuva first post, too! Kudos on the incorporation of the links in your post.
I am officially intrigued by your 'Indiana Jones' statement. Off to see what Herr Farrell has to say.
A friend in need is a friend in need.
A friend with weed is a friend indeed.
Gort
lol
Well mi got, but ya gonna hav fi swim ta get it... :P
IC, well written and good read; Hemp healing fa'ever... harr harrrr
Welcome IC. Glad to have you here. well written and informative-
Are you sure you have the right place??? Just kidding. :)
Very cool you chose us to blog with.
Scarlet,
In a previous blog you were kidding about Santa/Satan on Saturn. Santa and Satan have the same letters (and both wear Red).
I started playing with those letters, and my favorite combination is AANTS. Maybe they are "Aard Aants" and they come in the dictionary near aardvaarks and aardwolves. And of curse they are red.
Hope your math class is going well.
Gort
Thanks Gort:)
My final is Monday-its comprehensive-ug! But dammit, cube roots don't scare me anymore! LOL
Jas-
U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3,333
As of Tuesday, April 24, 2007, at least 3,333 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.
3,333 deaths since 2003...
...that is some deadly numerological milestone. A divine message about invading the ancient Babylonian lands?
And speaking of 33, I put this together: Diagram illustrating the pressure of water every 33 feet.
That swiss cheese radar is still around. Here;
http://www.weather.unisys.com/index.html
Click on loop.
Good luck scar!
Wayne
...and the DOW hitting 13,000
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Bulls off and running, Dow over 13,000
Investors encouraged by strong economic figures and mainly good corporate earnings sent the Dow over 13,000 for the first time in history.
http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/25/markets/markets_nyopen/index.htm?cnn=yes
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13, unlucky fa some...
Tuning back in. Just home from South Carolina etc.
Drove the distance, and felt the pain, while in Virginia. Good healing happening there now.
cathing up...
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cathing up...
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A new religious practice Ion? :)
...da 'pope', will be impressed...
ABC dumps Rosie and the Dow does 13,000. That's what I call sin-crow-nike-t.
Dat "View" not so rosy then Eric :D
Did anyone mention the Krytonite yet?
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'Kryptonite' discovered in mine http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6584229
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In Jadar of all places... hmmm a link? hi hi hi...
...ha, kryptonite, am cathing it too...
Bill O'rielly's Radio show at lunchtime was discussing. Nothing mentioned about the fact she questioned 'accepted' opinion about 9/11. But I can only think this had some bearing.
Thought it somewhat proves what I've said before...that the 'messenger' of disclosure needs to be 'normal' and have no skeletons in the closet. No matter what fame one has, if you've used drugs, are gay or even subject to parental abuse, you can easily be made a pariah and excoriated for past sins and opinions, no matter how imbued with truth or how solid the evidence of any disclosure that threatens the staus quo of TPTB.
Yeah, jas...but YOUR 'kryptonite' is GREEN! :)
...lol SK, ya, but they never showed Superman crumbling his green bud/rock into a wrapper and rolling one up b4 flight, it leaves out the whole mystic connotations...
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...that the 'messenger' of disclosure needs to be 'normal' and have no skeletons in the closet. No matter what fame one has, if you've used drugs, are gay or even subject to parental abuse,
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Just repasting that, because according to news reports, that would mean everyone in the political system, Congress, The house, Senate, are not eledgible... oh...
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...no skeletons in the closet.
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And definately no chance of a presidential disclosure from GWB then either...
Fossil of First Politician Discovered
Howdy folks, EnixFenix here back from the dead. Some of you may remember me in my previous incarnation as LDA. When I went to update my old account, I clicked "Claim This Blog" for FSHOD. I hope I didn't screw up anything on your end by doing that, SK... did I?
Nobody's posting. Dammit, I think I screwed something up. SunKing, you may have to claim your blog again. I'm sorry.
IC.. I'm waiting for Farrell's new book out in June.
I watched a video by David Suzuki last night on the subject of Bees. Apparently put together before it became apparent that bees may be going extinct in the coming months. Two interesting facts emerged. Aristotle based "The Republic"on bees and their organization and the second was bee behaviour concerning the transmission of information as to locating a food source. They orient themselves in the hive and spin around in figure eights to tell the other bees which way to go for the food. The number of thumps tells the other bees how far the food is to be found.
The technology we have in our hands as we speak (you're looking at it) should be worked into tools of human survival and away from human surveillance. The needs are pressing. There is a new "Patriot Act" scenario brewing but this time it will be the Global Warming police state. I'm sure that they have a contingency plan to further enslave us with brownouts at specified times to limit our freedom of speech and freedom of movement. Break the law and go to a work camp scenario. Free labour and no critics.
This is why I am pushing for a neighbourhood by neighbourhood solution to the problem. The panopticon solution is meant to enslave us if that is even possible to do more than it already has. The denial of chemtrail spraying for the past decade is part of the delusion that global warming requires emergency measures. Global warming is not reversible. If anything, chemtrails has been speeding it up at the cost of trillions of dollars
I saw a good show about the politics of Global Warming on PBS Frontline on Tuesday night.
The link is here, but I don't have my cheatsheet handy. :(
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hotpolitics/?campaign=pbshomefeatures_3_frontlinebrhotpolitics_2007-04-25
Gort
This national Climate Change assesment was published in 2000, but starting in 2001 th Bsh admin. had all refences to it removed from govt websites, etc.
It is included in the readings and links section of the previous link to frontline.
http://www.usgcrp.gov/usgcrp/Library/nationalassessment/overview.htm
2012 aka the Wayne Madsen 2 cents...
April 25, 2007 -- ABC News quickly amended its report concerning the ability of law enforcement to track prescription drug users in the United States. In a report on Virginia Tech killer Cho Seung-hui's possible use of anti-depressant drugs, "senior federal officials" told ABC News they could find no record of him [Cho Seung-hui] in the governments files on controlled substances. ABC News later posted an explanation of its first report that the US government tracks prescription drugs and their users: "Some readers may have inferred from an earlier edition of this story that the federal government keeps a comprehensive record of all prescriptions. The Drug Enforcement Agency says it does track prescriptions of so-called controlled substances — including some mood-altering medications — but not all prescriptions made in the United States."
The issue is to what extent does the DEA track prescription drug users and what prompted the government to check on records pertaining to Cho Seung-hui, who was reported to have been treated for mental problems in the past? The Psychotropic Substances Act of 1978 added mind-altering drugs to the list of official Controlled Substances. Prescriptions for these controlled substances have a "DEA Number" used for tracking controlled substances. The Cho incident and the comments and quick retractions by "senior federal officials" indicate that there is a secret federal government capability to track controlled drug users.
Welcome back latter day! Long time good to hear from you! Hearty hello to all f-shod members!
Welcome iridescent cuddlefish!-Nice post!
ericswan, hello. Good work with the bees. I'm reading these stories closely. This article threw in some data that makes me more hopeful. Apparently bee keepers reported very severe bee losses in the 60's, before a recovery occurred. I think this kind of information needs more publicity, much more thought and focus as we need real progress and a fierce effort to reclaim clean air. Article is a cut and paster as it's about bees, just a side light here at the f-shod.
http://www.startribune.com/535/story/1142266.html
To stay topical with global warming. I suspect that it also is unstoppable, primarily because our weather here is so closely linked to our sun, and any additional energy inputs. We just don't know what the sun will do next, nor do we know about the next comet, or eliptical discovery. The elites eyes are glassing over with the new money flows coming from the global warming fetish and water rights.
We need an overhaul of what is considered progress on oil use, right now the changeover is way too slow, way too controlled by corporate greed.
Chemtrails and aerosols in general are wreaking havoc on rainfalls and that evidence is increasing that aerosols change cloud formation patterns and rainfall. Our atmosphere and resources are being terribly mis-managed and U.S. politicians are in the corporations back pockets. I could go on, but for the readers here it is not 'news' really.
Lots of trails here today. All from USAF routes which run parallel to 2 mountain ranges, the activity was extremely heavy-frenzied actually-and began long before I woke up. Trails stretched from horizon to horizon. All commercial traffic meanwhile, which does pass over these mountain ranges, many many times each hour left no trails, not even for a second. The damage being inflicted by this program, the lack of public knowledge is saddening.
If Cho received counseling or therapy sessions, I definitely want to know about that. Was he was worked over like Mcveigh? Something to watch closely.
Mcveigh was worked over and had high level help, extremely disturbing blueprint for how dropping buildings can be done with out the public paying close enough attention.
Meanwhile great stuff on a new 'earthlike' planet that we will know more about soon. Spaceweather.com has a noctilucent cloud gallery and a cool animation of a sun storm that tossed an x3 at earth on the same day.
Heres to the f-shod relentlessly pursuing knowing more, I suspect we here will all go down wanting to know more and searching for the truth (or as Stephen Colbert would report 'truthiness' )
Bryansail
...LDA, long long long time bredren!
Good ta c ya back!
One-love...
A likkle more contribution to the warming of da globe:
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New sunspot 953 poses a slight threat for M-class solar flares.
>(http://www.spaceweather.com)
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...wear sun-glasses and bring ya pets in, this ones got a '3 in it... B^)
IC...a rather scientific but short German paper on bees.
http://www.hese-project.org/hese-uk/en/papers/warnke_bee_world_76.pdf
http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc97/5_24_97/bob1.htm
Bryansail...Cho's medical history is being kept confidential. The authorities have been citing privacy rights. He has been under "observation" for at least 18 months but no mention of his medication (so far). David Ickes has written a paper on Manchurian cho and it echoes truthiness. Cloak and Dagger has it up on their site.
http://www.cloakanddagger.de/lenny/man%20from%20manchuria.htm
What a friendly bunch! Thanks, one and all for the warm reception. Eric, the reason I asked about your take on Joe Farrell’s Reich of the Black Sun was because of the three or four threads running through it that always seemed to hover in the background of our conversations over at RI. Roughly speaking, I’m talking about the story behind Paperclip & Overcast.
Farrell seems to think that the post war “re-alignment” of Nazis, CIA, MI6 & KGB was itself a sham. This goes well beyond the obvious fraud of the Cold War and the story everyone knows of how Gehlen fed the OSS/CIA fake Soviet troop strength assessments. In RBS, he repeats the often-asked question of why Hitler didn’t use the “terrible weapons” that the occulted Kammlerstab came up with, without ever really saying that if both “sides” in WWII were financed & supplied by the same corporate entities, then maybe Hitler himself was only a figurehead, in much the same way that the Dick & Bush show is window-dressing for the real seat of power in our era of The Empire. Why he doesn’t make this leap is puzzling to me, since he goes to such lengths to suggest that the whole postwar/Cold War Allied legend was just a ruse…including the typical conspiracy theories.
Viktor Schauberger.
This is the link between all the threads, and a convoluted one it is. I first heard about Schauberger in the ‘70s, when I was getting ready to “go off into the woods,” in a book by Keith Laumer (I think). It was sci-fi, I was doing a lot of product testing for the little hand-carved pipe company I had started, and so you can see why the details are a bit murky at this point. I didn’t hear about him again until I started wandering around in those free energy circles on the Net in the late ‘90s, but even then the real significance of Viktor Schauberger didn’t hit me.
When I read Nick Cook’s Hunt for Zero Point (which seemed, I don’t know, not quite honest, I guess), I was struck by the way in which Cook dismissed Schauberger’s work as a sort of failed free energy/anti-gravity experiment carried out under duress. It wasn’t until I read Farrell’s RBS and then Frank Germano’s Schauberger page (which is really quite good) that things began to fall into place for me. Cook, Farrell and Germano all quote the same source for their treatments of Viktor Schauberger: the work of Callum Coats.
Farrell & Germano even quote the same passages, like this one:
Whatever might have been thought of Viktor Schauberger in Austria, word of his abilities and the statements contained in his new book, "Our Senseless Toil -- the Source of the World Crisis", evidently reached others ears, including those of Adolf Hitler. At a time when the relations between Austria and Germany were at an all-time low, Viktor Schauberger was summoned to an audience with the Reichschancellor Hitler, in Berlin. Special papers were arranged and all the documentation carried out within one day. Suddenly Viktor Schauberger left for Berlin and a meeting with Hitler, who greeted him warmly as a fellow countryman, telling him that he had studied all the reports about his work thoroughly and was very impressed with what he had learned.
Thirty minutes had been allocated for the discussions, which Prof. Max Planck had been requested to attend as scientific adviser shortly before he was rudely deposed from his position as Privy Counselor. This exchange of views eventually lasted 11 hours, during which Schauberger explained the destructive action of contemporary technology and its inevitable consequences. He contrasted this with all the processes of natural motion and temperature, of the vital relation between trees, water and soil productivity, indeed all the things he considered had to be thoroughly understood and practiced in order to create a sustainable and viable society.
When Viktor had finished his explanations, Max Planck, who had remained silent, was asked his opinion about Viktor's natural theories. His response was the remarkable and revealing statement that "Science has nothing to do with Nature". Pausing for a moment to take in this astonishing admission, Viktor then referred to the proposed four-year plan, the so-called Goering Plan, stating that, not only was the time frame far too short, but, if instituted, it would gradually undermine and ultimately destroy Germany's biological foundations. As a result, the Third Reich would last only ten instead of the boasted 1,000 years.
This is where I became most interested, not in the suppression of free energy/looted wartime patents/Paperclip hijinks that seem to be the focus of all these other guys. Only Coats seems to have grasped the most vital part of Schauberger’s work; it was not the stuff that the SS made him do outside Mauthausen but the things he discovered on his own as a forester in Austria in the ‘20s & 30s. We’re never going to get the straight story about the spy v. spy stuff anyway—disclosure will only happen when the The Empire becomes obsolete.
Curiously, the way in which this might happen is through applying what Coats learned about Schauberger (and Steiner and Goethean science in general—that Lost Science stuff I linked last time) and applying it to the kind of projects that you’re talking about. The potential of zeolite that you’re always on about fits in perfectly with Coats’ message. Check out this review of Coats’ new book, Living Energies: Viktor Schauberger's Brilliant Work With Natural Energy Explained
Living Energies focuses on the concepts of Viktor Schauberger (1885 - 1958). Schauberger was an Austrian genius who began his study of nature's motions while he working as a forester observing pristine ecosystems. His later inventions harnessed nature's simplicity for a variety of technologies:
*water purification,
*river and flood management,
*soil fertility,
*propulsion, and even
*home power generation ("free energy").
An increasing number of today's scientists are acknowledging that his apparently radical concepts are actually quite brilliant. Schauberger's motto of "comprehend and copy nature" points our way out of the insanely destructive technologies of the 20th-century.
Just one example of the results of destructive technology mentioned in Coats' book is the loss of topsoil. Ever since the first metal plow sliced through it, the living skin of Earth (topsoil) has been turning to powder and blowing in the wind. Today's massive machinery has accelerated the loss. There are, however, methods for rebuilding a healthy, crumbly, juicy soil that will at the same time produce vitalized (and tasty) food.
Callum Coats cites a spectrum of Schauberger's improvements to agriculture, and also touches on the work of other researchers such as John Hamaker, who wrote a book called the Survival of Civilization with Don Weaver. Hamaker is an engineer who pioneered soil remineralization with rockdust. This has nothing to do with chemical fertilizers. Instead, igneous rocks which contain a broad range of minerals are crushed into finely ground dust through a relatively cold process. As Schauberger often pointed out, hot processes dissipate energies, but certain cold processes can actually enhance energy in a substance. Quality rather than quantity is crucial; the energetic effect enhances life processes that build soil. For example, one man who used a light dusting of rockdust for a decade increased the depth of his topsoil from four inches to about four feet.
By the way, the books of Dr. Phillip Callahan also explain the need for rock dust to help give plants and forests an energetic environment. He talks in terms of "paramagnetism."
In the agriculture section of Callum Coats' book, meanwhile, Rudolf Steiner's method for drawing subtle energies into the soil is discussed. Steiner's "biodynamic" farming uses the forces which Steiner called "heaven" and "earth." It does get earthy - cow horns filled with cow dung are buried in autumn to allow a period of cold fermentation. (Viktor Schauberger wrote about this process and said it was important the materials be cold fermented and not hot fermented.) During the few months that the cowhorns are buried, their contents are changed into a sweet smelling substance! Afterwards, part of this substance is mixed with water using a certain method of stirring. By stirring first one way and then reversing the motion, vortexes are created in one direction, broken and then created in another direction.
Coats compares this mixing process with the Japanese art of sword making, in the sense that you create first order and then chaos and then order again. The sword is first put into the fire - the chaotic stage - and then is beaten, putting structure back into the metal. Then it is put back into the fire again, folded over, and bent. Every time the process is repeated, the state of disorder gets lower and lower and the state of order gets higher and higher. The end result is a very highly structured product, which compares to biodynamics' end result of a very energetic product.
The energized material is then spread lightly over the farmers' fields. Since the fields receive an energy dose in which the material quantity is very small but the energetic quantity is very high, it is what could be called a homeopathic dose. "It apparently has a reaction out of all proportion to what is placed there," Callum Coats said on a 1996 radio interview with Laura Lee.
During his research, Coats learned that Viktor Schauberger went further than Steiner and developed soil building systems in which cowhorns are not needed. "You don't need to have any animal input at all, in order to create what (Schauberger) called a 'virgin hymen' over the surface of the earth...that very fertile, fecund energy matrix through which plants would germinate much more simply and thrive more vigorously and produce much higher quality product."
Laura Lee said she sees hope for the future if we can learn how to revitalize soil and the environment by applying some of these techniques.
Very sorry to quote such massive tracts of text--hopefully the emphasis was worth it. What is Farrell's new book, anyway? I'm thinking that Coats' Living Energies is a must read, for all the obvious reasons. I know I'm supposed to be worried about all that awful Panopticon stuff you're talking about (which that ICAMS website--especially that ICAMS report pdf I talked about at RI--gets into in most chilling detail), but this other stuff just seems a better use of what energies I have left.
I will check out those German papers and get back to you on it.
Thanks for the patience, lads (and other designations).
If the Chinese are doing it, and the Wall Street Journal reports on it then weather manipulation must be false and YOU ARE A FUCKING LUNATIC FOR BELIEVEING THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO CONTROL THE WEATHER. not.
From:
http://blogs.wsj.com/informedreader/2007/04/25/could-global-warming-be-halted-by-controlling-the-weather
April 25, 2007, 5:59 pm
Could Global Warming Be Halted by Controlling the Weather?
Frustrated with the limits of public policy to tackle global warming, some scientists say the time has come to engineer a way to control the weather. The idea might seem appealing, says a science scholar, but it could have potentially harmful ramifications.
Climate engineering has become a popular topic among a group of scientists who are skeptical of the potential other environmental remedies, from carbon taxes to alternative energy, James R. Fleming, a professor of science, technology and society at Colby College, writes in the Wilson Quarterly’s spring issue. But the potential fixes being discussed reflect an overconfidence in technology, Mr. Fleming says, as well as an ignorance of the history of failed efforts to control the weather.
One idea put forth by a physicist involved in climate-control discussions would involve bombarding the Arctic stratosphere with specially engineered particles to deflect the sun’s rays, thereby lowering temperatures. Alternatively, a fleet of crop-dusting airplanes could deliver the particles by flying continuously around the Arctic Circle. An astronomer suggested placing a huge fleet of mirrors in orbit to divert solar radiation. Some of these ideas, says Mr. Fleming, are reminiscent of the optimism that framed the first attempts at climate control, which date to the 19th century. In the 1940s, scientists developed cloud-seeding to produce rainfall, a technique that was later adopted by the U.S. military during the Vietnam War to hinder enemy troops movements.
The risk that modern climate controls would be similarly used for military purposes is one of the dangers of the latest batch of ideas, says Mr. Fleming. “It is virtually impossible to imagine governments resisting the temptation to explore military uses of any potentially climate-altering technology,” he says. What’s more, the climate system is so complex that it would be difficult to ever predict how such controls would affect nature. And which countries, Mr. Fleming wonders, could be trusted to equitably control weather in different parts of the world. In the face of a potential climate crisis, doing nothing or too little is “clearly wrong, but so is doing too much.” – Wendy Pollack
all I can is that at least I was one of the first to be deemed crazy
Thanks for the warm welcome back, all! J, man, boy, do we have a lot in common. I mean FREAKY a lot. More on that later. But there's one thing I gotta know: Did you ever figure out WHY the Rosicrucians sent you to the JWs when they discovered that you were Abaddon? I mean, I know there's a supposed Illuminist/Masonic link to both organizations (and countless others, of course) - surely you know that Pastor Russell used the same winged sun-disk symbol on his literature that the Rosicrucians use. But aside from that, why the Watchtower? I just don't get it. Hmmm. Incidentally, did you know that Christians Isaac Newton and Michael Faraday (both held in very high regard by the WT - even scoring their elite "likely anointed" list) were both Rosicrucians? What's up with that? Weird shit, dude.
Anyway, regarding Baghdad: Let's not overlook one fairly obvious fact (well, to me, at least). What ancient city is the Baghdad region the modern-day equivalent of? Why, Babylon, of course! And, who, according to the King James Bible, is Lucifer? No, not Satan, in spite of what you may have previously thought. He's the King of Babylon. And who is the God of Freemasonry? Bingo! Sword, can ya back me up here, my friend?
OK, I got a blog in me I'm just itchin' to get out. How do I go about posting one on here? Do I have to be invited to do so, or do I just go to FSHOD on the Blogger site and post one?
Much shalom to all!
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